Originally Posted by rtn5000
Ahhhh good point about being paid for the review.
I’m expecting an honest review from this gentlemen once he gets his H8G from Amazon. https://youtu.be/JyT09a6PRQE
Yeah that should be the soonest one too I guess since he says he already ordered. I think his expectations are a little too high though.
He talks about the colour and brightness of the H8F being a step down from the R62x, which is true but not all that important in the real world. For example the colour is better on the R62x than the R61x, due to the QD filter, but that's not really cited as a huge improvement; and the reality is the R61x and R62x are very similar and most people won't even see much difference with real-world content. I don't think the H8G will be any better in terms of brightness because of the QD filter...he seems to think it will be but even Hisense themselves are not really making a big deal about the brightness on the H8G--700 nits is decent for its price range/market segment but nothing great.
QD-filtered LCDs can also have "better colour" than OLEDs but this doesn't really dissuade people from buying OLED TVs--perhaps the burn/degredation and price do, but certainly not this minor tidbit. The truth is with actual content the colour advantage of so-called "QLED" TVs isn't really realised by the average consumer.
To me the way the 6-series stacks up against the H8F is more that the 6-series gets brighter, is better for HDR. The colour may be better but that is negligible. TCL has better response time so has better motion, along with better LD. All of which may seem like a landslide victory for TCL but then you have to consider a few other things. Android v. Roku
. I think it's fair to say most people prefer the latter (again on the TCL) but personally I like the idea and potential of Android more. Roku is more proprietary and at least with Android there are ways to do things like "sideload". Next is DSE
. DSE is much more of a problem for TCL and their consistency in that area leaves a lot to be desired. Many
have returned 6-series sets for what is described as "awful DSE", whereas those kind of complaints don't seem to hit Hisense too often. Also price
. I don't think the 6-series has come down as low as the same-size H8Fs and if they have, it's not as often that they sell that low.
For another point of reference, you guys don't get some models over there that we get here in Canada. So just as a story, Hisense released two nearly-identical to each other models here known as the Q8809 and Q7809. (NB: Here the name for the H8F is the H8809 and the H9F is called the Q9809.) So anyway the "Q" naming in Canada tells that it has a QD filter on it. The Q8809 is then therefore somehow positioned as a model "above" the H8809 because of the QD filter on it. So this kind of serves as an example of a QD Hisense that's not at the top end (like the H9F/Q9809).
Well I bought a 55Q8809 as it was a seemingly great price on sale ($500 CAD). The Q8809 also has local dimming but it's a rather weak 10 or 12 "zones" (and the LD didn't even work until fw upgrade). Now I bought that TV and
and H8F/H8809. Again they market the TV as being higher than the H8F here and the MSRP is higher but curiously the 55H8809 never drops below $550 here, while the 55Q8809 has come down to $500 on several occasions, along with the nearly-identical Q7809. When you put these two TVs beside each other, the H8F and the Q8809...there really isn't a thing better about the Q8809 set. It's more cheaply built, has less HDMIs (and some of them aren't 2.0), is thicker but somehow lighter weight, no film/dejudder mode, and then the PQ... The low-zone LD makes it similar to a Vizio M6 and not really comparable to the H8F. Also the QD implementation seems to make the viewing angle really bad. And by that I mean I know VA panels are not good in that regard, but it was really
bad off-centre or at even a slight angle. So, even the lower end features aside, even just looking at the mighty "quantum dot" aspect, it couldn't hold up to the H8F overall, as a TV. I kept the H8F, returned the Q8809.
The above is how I can't see the H8G being all that much better than the H8F. I've no doubt that it will be better (both TCL and Hisense seem to improve every year) but I don't think it will be a huge difference. Going off the Q8809, the viewing angle may become worse; the addition of more zones should be welcome though. That last part considering you don't
follow the advice of "that guy" and turn it off completely, thus making it a waste of money.
I really doubt the H8G will be close to the H9F TBH, meaning its doubtful it will top the R62x never mind the upcoming miniLED 6-series (which is either gonna be late this year or possibly even next year due to you know what going on in the world). The TV simply isn't designed or marketed (even by Hisense marketing who like to play games) as being up to last year's H9F, so the improvements from the H8F are going to be incremental.
In terms of pricing I also think people have forgotten just how much/how fast the H8F was discounted over its life cycle, which is not really a long period of time. In spite of the $100 increase in MSRP for the 65", I don't think it will be long before sales bring it down in general, which will make it even more attractive against 1st tier set prices. Still, I believe it will still be duking it out with the 6-series more than any kind of KO by Hisense.
The H9G I expect to be similarly incremental--improvements on what is already a fantastic set.
Where anyone should be truly excited is the XD9G
. The price will be high for a Hisense but that is the impressive tech they have to showcase, but that's not until last this year...again if not next year now.