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LG is now saying OLED can not be improved much more and they can not lower the price any lower on their larger OLED's ..



AND.. they are finally saying OLED has Issues too...BURN-IN

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Typical anti oled stuff , next up “professional calibrator Quantum Apotheosis”


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Can't you idiotic fanboys check the description of the video(which contain links/sources) instead of accusing someone of being Anti-OLED?
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I don’t see what the big deal
Is anyway , lg would be dumb not to invest in micro led . Oleds will be around for a while . New technology bring it on in the meantime I’ll
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I don’t see what the big deal
Is anyway , lg would be dumb not to invest in micro led . Oleds will be around for a while . New technology bring it on in the meantime I’ll
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I agree. This is a nothingburger.



OLED is a fabulous technology and it isn't going anywhere for the forseeable future, but LG would be foolish not to invest in MicroLED. The price is prohibitive for now but I think we all know it's the future.
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I agree micro led is the future but I highly doubt we will be seeing micro led under 2k in two years. That would be awesome but a manufacturing miracle.
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I agree. This is a nothingburger.



OLED is a fabulous technology and it isn't going anywhere for the forseeable future, but LG would be foolish not to invest in MicroLED. The price is prohibitive for now but I think we all know it's the future.
It's not if they cannot work out the modular screen that is a combination of tiles and clearly shows seams from up close and not a single seamless screen, that would only work for public displays, it will bomb as a tv technology used in home.
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It's not if they cannot work out the modular screen that is a combination of tiles and clearly shows seams from up close and not a single seamless screen, that would only work for public displays, it will bomb as a tv technology used in home.

That is nothing more than a manufacturing challenge and there is not a doubt in my mind that it will be solved in due course. These are still early days for MicroLED and the fundamental technology already works. Yields will go up, panels will get larger, efficiencies will improve, and prices will go down. Industry has gotten pretty good at solving these types of problems.

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I agree micro led is the future but I highly doubt we will be seeing micro led under 2k in two years. That would be awesome but a manufacturing miracle.

2K in two years is pie in the sky thinking. This guy is delusional if he really believes this.

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micro led as modular display is not some new technology in public displays, it's been around for a while. there may be no getting around this issue of seams, why do you think samsung is investing in QD OLED at the same time if micro led is future, theyre running into lots of technical hurdles as well as cost problems with micro led, they dont think in the coming few years micro led is feasible as a consumer tv.
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micro led as modular display is not some new technology in public displays, it's been around for a while. there may be no getting around this issue of seams, why do you think samsung is investing in QD OLED at the same time if micro led is future, theyre running into lots of technical hurdles as well as cost problems with micro led, they dont think in the coming few years micro led is feasible as a consumer tv.

Lots to unpack here.



"micro led as modular display is not some new technology in public displays, it's been around for a while." - Agreed, at least conceptually. The level of miniaturization needed for a typical home display hasn't been possible until recently however.



"why do you think samsung is investing in QD OLED at the same time if micro led is future" - What makes you think it has to be a binary choice? You can do both. Foolish companies put all of their eggs in one basket. Samsung (and by extension Samsung Display), for all of their flaws, is decidedly not a foolish company. They are well aware that the rug is about to get pulled out from under their LCD business and they need something to pivot to. Enter QD OLED. I'd also like to point out that QD OLED is mostly a stopgap measure meant to help Samsung get by for the next few years. That's assuming that they can get the tech to work at a consumer acceptable level. I have my doubts on that. That's also assuming that they actually pull the trigger on it. I'm starting to have my doubts on that as well.


"theyre running into lots of technical hurdles as well as cost problems with micro led" - my understanding is that their issues are mostly in the form of yield, which directly impacts cost. It's also one of the reasons for the seams. If you solve the yield problem and then scale up production you have mostly solved the cost issue, or at least greatly impacted it. Admittedly I'm somewhat oversimplifying here, but once again this is also the type of problem that industry is really good at solving.



"they dont think in the coming few years micro led is feasible as a consumer tv." - Depends on how you define coming few years. If we are talking two years like this youtube guy we are in complete agreement that's not happening. If we are defining it as 5 - 10 years I beg to differ.

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I agree micro led is the future but I highly doubt we will be seeing micro led under 2k in two years. That would be awesome but a manufacturing miracle.
Not at the rate they are going. Are they supposed to revive plasma display panels?
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In the next few years, I see OLED being a mid-range TV tech and Micro-LED the new best high-end tech. I'm doubt OLED will be a dead tech anytime soon (like Plasma TV dead where there no company makes Plasma TVs anymore).

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It is stated in the Koreatimes...LG words. LG is not a real believer since plenty of issues with the tech cannot be solved, that is the main takeaway here...shocker...

LG said OLED displays had a shorter lifespan, as well as a higher number of issues with the production yield defect rate, utilization rate and "burn-in" than conventional LCD-backed displays.

LED technology could be one possible option for products with enhanced picture quality and improved contrast ratio because the technology is well-positioned to effectively address such looming issues that appeared in OLED displays," the company said.

This does not mean LG Electronics will step back from its earlier commitment to embrace the OLED TV business. It means, from a business standpoint, that LG will regard its push for the OLED TV market as a "strategic investment" that will set the advanced TV technology roadmap for years.
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LG has always produced both OLED and LCD TVs - their investment in OLED was never a total commitment at the exclusion of all other technologies. And it's paid off. They've spent years now having the most heralded TVs with the most admired picture quality, uncontested by anyone except other brands also using an LG panel.


But they've known about the downsides of the technology more than anyone - they're the ones that have to develop the schemes that mitigate them, after all.


Of course they're going to research alternative techs. OLED, as it exists now, was never going to be the answer in a world where mid-tier sets are pushing 1000+ nits. You don't even need to go back a decade to see what happens to the 'superior PQ' technology in the consumer TV market when it's up against more brightness, more vivid tech.
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Agreed, and everyone should resist clicking/watching ANY of his nonsense, it only encourages more BS by providing him with advertising revenue.
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I find his videos fun to watch however, I find that as only entertainment. There's a lot of over assumption and purposeful misinformation or stretching of truths.
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There are a few reasons I will be avoiding OLED. Pricing at the 85" range will never come close the LCD while picture quality of LCD is getting closer each year. Specifically, the Vizio PX 85", much brighter and will be very close to OLED in most cases for black levels. Another reason is the burn-in issue as I watch a lot of channels with static logos and often leave my XBox on a static screen when I pass out. The third main reason is I really dislike most of the OLED fanbois, both here at AVS and in other forum. They tend to flame and troll posters with honest personal opinions and need to chime in on posts that do not pertain to them just to be jerks.
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I would love to see MicroLed at a more affordable price to me. It would be great to see a 75" at let say $8k and a 85" at $10k - $15K. I would be all over the 85" in a heart beat.
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Love my OLEDs... as with anything, there is always the search for newer and better technology. When micro-led becomes available and affordable, I'll be interested. Until then... I'm good.
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LG had a prototype of a MicroLED at CES... so... yeah they are definitely looking into MicroLED.

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There are a few reasons I will be avoiding OLED. Pricing at the 85" range will never come close the LCD while picture quality of LCD is getting closer each year. Specifically, the Vizio PX 85", much brighter and will be very close to OLED in most cases for black levels. Another reason is the burn-in issue as I watch a lot of channels with static logos and often leave my XBox on a static screen when I pass out. The third main reason is I really dislike most of the OLED fanbois, both here at AVS and in other forum. They tend to flame and troll posters with honest personal opinions and need to chime in on posts that do not pertain to them just to be jerks.


You sort of fit that description yourself imo , the last part was really unnecessary as you engage in the very behavior you accuse others of .


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LG had a prototype of a MicroLED at CES... so... yeah they are definitely looking into MicroLED.
They had a very nice mini-led as well. The future looks good for AV enthusiasts.
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