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Don't know how much longer projectors will be desirable for dedicated HT's with 85"+ screens getting so cheap.

With microled LCD and when seamless segmented CLEDIS-like panels filter down cost wise to common man levels, pj's will be a tough sell other than those of us who may want one for that "projected image bulb look" and/or nostalgia/period accurate viewing.

I see no reason we shouldn't see 8ft wide panel TV's (LCD at least) within a few years for less than $3-5K
This is a really silly, short-sighted comment. C'mon ! So anyone with an interest in a REAL "dedicated home theater" is gonna be "satisfied" with a 95" "screen?" Ummm, NO !
I have a 108" screen (essentially 9') and that is about as small a screen as most home theater enthusiasts would really want to consider after going through significant steps to a nice room.
I agree with a portion of your premise in that yes, a 96" (8' wide) panel could be very, very pleasant & enjoyable. We sat and watched a movie on our friend's 85" SONY 950G two nights ago...very pleasant and nice "presentation" no doubt ! But once one "goes big...you just do not want to go back."
And getting a stiff "panel" of a door would be limiting (especially the HEIGHT)...

So...NO!!, projectors are NOT going anywhere. People WANT 108", 120", 144". They (we) are not in the 95% granted, but there are a sizable number of BIG screen people.
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This is a really silly, short-sighted comment. C'mon ! So anyone with an interest in a REAL "dedicated home theater" is gonna be "satisfied" with a 95" "screen?" Ummm, NO !
I have a 108" screen (essentially 9') and that is about as small a screen as most home theater enthusiasts would really want to consider after going through significant steps to a nice room.
I agree with a portion of your premise in that yes, a 96" (8' wide) panel could be very, very pleasant & enjoyable. We sat and watched a movie on our friend's 85" SONY 950G two nights ago...very pleasant and nice "presentation" no doubt ! But once one "goes big...you just do not want to go back."
And getting a stiff "panel" of a door would be limiting (especially the HEIGHT)...

So...NO!!, projectors are NOT going anywhere. People WANT 108", 120", 144". They (we) are not in the 95% granted, but there are a sizable number of BIG screen people.

I went from a 103" Epson 6040UB to a 85" Sony 900F and I couldn't be happier. Sure, if you go "beyond" 110" you'll have a point. But consumer projectors can't match the brightness of televisions which is crucial for HDR.


And the big problem that I had with my projector is that the minute you put a new light bulb in, the quality deteriorates. If a bulb is rated for 3,000 hours, you think you get the same light output at 1,500 hours vs 0 hours?


LOVED my projector while large television were not affordable.



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No HDMI 2.1 on the 950H. If you review the specs they actually released. I don't se any difference between the 950G and the H. I just emailed my dealer this morning for a price check and deliver on both.

Why would you need HDMI 2.1 in a 4K television?
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Why would you need HDMI 2.1 in a 4K television?
TVs are used for games also
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Okay?
hence HDMI 2.1




btw HDMI 2.0 doesnt even have enough bandwidth for 4K-60-4:4:4-10bit
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Preorders begin today on Amazon and at authorized dealers.

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X800H 4K HDR LED TVs:

Step into a new world of 4K HDR color, contrast, and clarity with the X800H. See superb pictures, rich with real world detail and texture, powered by Sony’s 4K HDR processor X1™.1 Enjoy expanded, vivid color with the TRILUMINOS™ Display for a more true-to-life picture. Sony’s Android TV with the Google Assistant makes life smart by offering access to favorite content and smart home devices.2

· 85” Class (84.6” diagonal): $2,699.99 MSRP

· 75” Class (74.5” diagonal): $1,799.99 MSRP

· 65” Class (64.5” diagonal): $1,199.99 MSRP

· 55” Class (54.6” diagonal): $999.99 MSRP

· 49” Class (48.5” diagonal): $749.99 MSRP

· 43” Class (42.5” diagonal): $699.99 MSRP


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Explore a new level of contrast with the Picture Processor X1™ Ultimate. With advanced Full Array LED technology, customers will see crystal-clear 4K HDR1 images in everything they watch. Bright and dark scenes feel more natural, and colors are even more true-to-life with the TRILUMINOS™ display.

· 85” Class (84.6” diagonal): $4,999.99 MSRP

· 49” Class (48.5” diagonal): $1,199.99 MSRP

· Pricing and availability for remaining X950H classes will be shared at a later date.


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where is the 900H?

Z9D Settings Dolby Vision, Gaming etc
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This is a really silly, short-sighted comment. C'mon ! So anyone with an interest in a REAL "dedicated home theater" is gonna be "satisfied" with a 95" "screen?" Ummm, NO !
I have a 108" screen (essentially 9') and that is about as small a screen as most home theater enthusiasts would really want to consider after going through significant steps to a nice room.
I agree with a portion of your premise in that yes, a 96" (8' wide) panel could be very, very pleasant & enjoyable. We sat and watched a movie on our friend's 85" SONY 950G two nights ago...very pleasant and nice "presentation" no doubt ! But once one "goes big...you just do not want to go back."
And getting a stiff "panel" of a door would be limiting (especially the HEIGHT)...

So...NO!!, projectors are NOT going anywhere. People WANT 108", 120", 144". They (we) are not in the 95% granted, but there are a sizable number of BIG screen people.
Good counterpoints, and I agree that once you get beyond 8ft wide, a rigid single panel would be an issue re: moving into a home/room/basement.

However, all bets are off once segmented displays become affordable- you could buy many smaller segments and assemble whatever size that fits in your home.

But I think panels up to the size of sheetrock or plywood at Home Depot (8'x4') would be feasible and sellable, same as they sell those items- stacked in the store like plywood/OSB sheets. They got the sheetrock down into my basement just fine

But I want to go 10' or 12' wide sometime in the next year or 2, and some guys are doing 12' to 16' wide screens already with the Sony 4K laser 5000 lumen cannons of the world.

Only issue is Dolby Vision/HDR10+ support on (affordable) projectors. Might be doable with sensors built on on the pj to measure/calibrate screen brightness or other methods, plus best in class tone mapping/dynamic gamma/contrast
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Don't know how much longer projectors will be desirable for dedicated HT's with 85"+ screens getting so cheap.

With microled LCD and when seamless segmented CLEDIS-like panels filter down cost wise to common man levels, pj's will be a tough sell other than those of us who may want one for that "projected image bulb look" and/or nostalgia/period accurate viewing.

I see no reason we shouldn't see 8ft wide panel TV's (LCD at least) within a few years for less than $3-5K
I do not think they will ever reach that price point but they do have commercial units for a good price, NEC C981Q for example. Back in the day people preferred commercial units over home TV's due to a simple "black" look and better menu systems for adjustment. Of course this NEC is an edge lit unit.

A JVC DLA-540U and a cheap screen can be had for the price of a XBR-85X950G and with the right room conditions have a better picture. You can go up to 120" with ease and push at 135". DLA-NX5 Has amazing HDR capabilities but would be over the cost of the 950G.
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This is the dilemma I am in. I have a dedicated home theatre room in current house with a JVC-DLA X3 and it works fine for movies but I game mostly on it. We are building a new house and the basement will have a HT set up but not a dedicated room so I could go projector again but looking at the TV's. I feel those are better for gaming plus I hate buying an expensive bulb every year or so.

My dealer is pushing a projector but I am leaning towards a big TV. Thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks
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was it confirmed if 900H will really have the old X1 processor ? because that thing is old now and IIRC even 900F (2018) had X1E (Extreme), so how can 900H (2020) have the older X1 .. ?


maybe they meant a new 2020 version of X1 ?
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was it confirmed if 900H will really have the old X1 processor ? because that thing is old now and IIRC even 900F (2018) had X1E (Extreme), so how can 900H (2020) have the older X1 .. ?


maybe they meant a new 2020 version of X1 ?
It was still used for the mid-range TVs last year, and the X900H is positioned as the replacement for the X850G, which did use the X1 processor. Not that strange when you consider that.

That said, one has to wonder why they've seemingly removed the X1 Extreme altogether. We go from the X1 on the X900H and lower, to X1 Ultimate on the X950H, A8H and up.
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Am I the only one who has noticed the price for the 49" X950H on Amazon just dropped from $1199 to $999?

I just pulled the trigger...can probably get $500 or so for my old 49" X900F on eBay? (I saved the box)

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Sony X900F SDR and HDR Calibrations https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...l#post57551552

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XH9505. 85" 4499 EU same price than XG9505 past year

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I wont consider a Sony till they drop that X-wide angle technology that is killing the contrast ratio.

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Not all models have x-wide, x900h for example...Are there any more details available regarding x950h or should I just buy their previous x950g? I want x-wide but don't care about those gimmicky speakers since I have my own setup and so far there hasn't been anything else that would justify the expected price bump...

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