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As far as i am concerned, one of the pivotal specs of the X900H line is the fact that it does not have the X-Wide angle technology, which as we all know takes a huge hit in native contrast with the "benefit" of widening the viewing angle.
Besides that, it makes the image less sharp, so it actually affects the resolution.
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Besides that, it makes the image less sharp, so it actually affects the resolution.
Does Sonys wide angle reduce sharpness/resolution too ?


I thought only Samsungs
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Does Sonys wide angle reduce sharpness/resolution too ?


I thought only Samsungs
Of course, not as much as Samsung, but pixels do look much more blurry. This X-Wide nonsense is like curved TVs. At some point they will stop using it.
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Damn I shouldve waited. I got the x950G in November. Though it was a pretty good deal.
No reviews yet but I am pretty sure your 950g is better than the 900h
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No reviews yet but I am pretty sure your 950g is better than the 900h
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It's very confusing! I had to look it up myself. The X900H was announced at CES but not much info came out about it at that time. Now we know that it has more features than the X950H, even though the X950H is their higher-end model and the X900H is mid-range model... no idea why they would do that. Vizio still seems like the best bet for a new TV on paper, but we
will soon see!
The 950H does offer the X1 Ultimate and the X900H has just the X1 processor.
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Is it confirmed the TV will have just 1 out of 5 HDMI 2.1 port?
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I have my doubts

I was looking around on the net today, checking out the different brands, when I came across a set with a price and features that looked too good to be true.

I won't list the store name here per the forum's rules - the owner makes the rules; that's the way it is, and that's the way it should be, IMO.

This dealer (I don't know the store) is listed as being an Authorized Sony Diamond Dealer. The following is from their website.

Sony X900 Series
Full HDMI 2.1, 48Gbps
New slim wall mount ready
ATSC 3.0 tuner built in

Early May launch

The set's were 85", 75", 65", and 55" models. All of the screen sizes had a pdf spec sheet, except for the 85" model.

I clicked on the pdf spec sheet for the XBR75X900H.
In the TV System section, there was NO 3.0 tuner listed!
In the Inputs and Outputs there was this:
HDMI Signal = 4096x2160p (24, 60 Hz), and 3840x2160p (24, 30, 60 Hz).
4K 60p HDMI in1, in2, in3, in4 ports for 4K (up to 18Gbps) signal. This is 2.0, correct?

These specs are clearly listed as the actual specs for the 2020 75X900H model.

After reading this, I called the store and talked to a guy there. He insisted that the set had a 3.0 tuner and that all 4 (!) of the set's HDMI inputs were 2.1.

I couldn't find any spec sheets for the X900H Series sets on Sony's site, or anything about a launch date.

I bet that these sets won't have true/full HDMI 2.1, just an upgrade for some of the features of 2.1 for gamers.

Hopefully, I'll lose that bet.
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it should have actual 48 gbps HDMI 2.1 chipset (as per Sony), but it will need a fw update to start accepting 4K-120 (4:4:4) via HDMI


I am skeptical about it having all 4x 48 gbps ports though, but we will see
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Info about HDMI 2.1 in Sony 2020 TV's can be found here
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^According to the above...
4K/120 and eARC will be available with VRR and ALLM coming in a update,

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I really need to know if:
- 900H will have 4x or 1x-2x 48 gbps ports
- 900H will have VRR on all 4 ports or not ?
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I really need to know if:
- 900H will have 4x or 1x-2x 48 gbps ports
- 900H will have VRR on all 4 ports or not ?
The way I interpret the flatspanelshd article (post 40) is a single port. It doesn't leave much wishful thinking wiggle room for plural.

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As FlatpanelsHD reported from CES 2020, two of Sony's new LCD TV ranges for 2020 will feature an HDMI 2.1 port capable of receiving 4K at 120 frames per second (4K120) - and 8K60 for 8K TVs. These are the 8K Z8H (Z8H) and the 4K X900H (XH90) ranges.https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1581346800
All should be revealed as fact soon.

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Hello guys ! Can someone explain to me why is hdmi 2.1 such a big deal for the next gen consoles? I have already bought a 950g in preparation for the ps5 and wondering if will loose much quality compared to hdmi2.1 Tv. As far as i know next gen consoles will target [email protected] for AAA games , and dont know how much Vrr and allm help the gaming experience.
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Hello guys ! Can someone explain to me why is hdmi 2.1 such a big deal for the next gen consoles? I have already bought a 950g in preparation for the ps5 and wondering if will loose much quality compared to hdmi2.1 Tv. As far as i know next gen consoles will target [email protected] for AAA games , and dont know how much Vrr and allm help the gaming experience.

HDMI 2.1 full specs with a true 48Gbps Port are =

- 4K 120hz with 4:4:4 HDR

- eARC (enhanced Audio Return Channel)

- VRR with a Range from 40-120hz in 4K (Variable Refresh Rate which includes Freesync / GSync if the manufacturer wants to support it)

- ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode)

VRR is a big deal if you ask me. No more locked framerates and if you have a less demanding game you can go up to anything between 40-120fps since the framerate is synced between console and TV. ALLM is just a automatic Game Mode if you will - TV detects the console and goes into game mode when you start a game.
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Has there been any info on the number of zones and peak brightness?
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For me, I have been waiting years for the ATSC 3.0 tuner! I have been getting free OTA for 11 years now with ATSC 1. ATSC 3.0 tuner should improve my multipath. And the price of this unit seems reasonable.
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4K-120 (for HDMI 3/4)
soo .. 2 of the 4 ports are HDMI 2.1 ?





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Has there been any info on the number of zones and peak brightness?
We won't hear that from Sony, especially not the number of zones. That info will come from reviewers.

I have a sneaking suspicion the peak brightness and number of zones will be very similar, perhaps identical, to the X900E, though! Time will tell...
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soo .. 2 of the 4 ports are HDMI 2.1 ?
And not available at release as the footnotes indicate:

4 4K120 will be available via a future firmware update.
5 eARC will be available via a future firmware update.
6 ALLM will be available via a future firmware update.
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And not available at release as the footnotes indicate:

4 4K120 will be available via a future firmware update.
5 eARC will be available via a future firmware update.
6 ALLM will be available via a future firmware update.
they said that from the start about 900H (that fw will be needed for HDMI 2.1 features)



at least since its clearly stated everywhere - I should hope that fw will become reality (else they can get sued I suppose)
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I hope nvidia will release a gsync driver or at least next-generation RTX graphics cards will have 2.1 ports in order to use VRR HDMI Forum.
What do you think about it?
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soo .. 2 of the 4 ports are HDMI 2.1 ?
But one if them will probably be the ARC/eARC port.

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But one if them will probably be the ARC/eARC port.
wait, isnt eARC now supported on all 4 ports ?
I thought that was the case for 2019 models like ~950G ..


i might be getting confused

tbh Im still not 100% clear on eARC functionality .. its primary use is for AVR, right ?


is it also for soundbars, or not ?

can you just hook the soundbar up directly to one of the HDMI 2.0 ports like now ? is ARC/eARC needed for that or not ?

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wait, isnt eARC now supported on all 4 ports ?
I thought that was the case for 2019 models like ~950G ..


i might be getting confused

tbh Im still not 100% clear on eARC functionality .. its primary use is for AVR, right ?


is it also for soundbars, or not ?

can you just hook the soundbar up directly to one of the HDMI 2.0 ports like now ? is ARC/eARC needed for that or not ?
A single port has always been designated as the ARC/eARC port up to this point by all the manufacturers. I don't expect that to change. It is possible that it will be on port 1 or 2 and not occupy one of the 2.1, but I doubt it.

It is for audio format data transfer to the soundbar/AVR, yes.
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A single port has always been designated as the ARC/eARC port up to this point by all the manufacturers. I don't expect that to change. It is possible that it will be on port 1 or 2 and not occupy one of the 2.1, but I doubt it.

It is for audio format data transfer to the soundbar/AVR, yes.
for both AVR and soundbar ?
so basically if you want to hook up any soundbar to TV via HDMI - you have to use the 1 ARC/eARC port ? otherwise it wont even work ?

if thats the case then yeah I hope the eARC port here is one of the HDMI 2.0 ones ...


and if you connect the soundbar to TV without HDMI (like via optical) - can you still get all the same sound formats, Dolby Atmos etc. ? Or is that only via HDMI ARC ?


sorry for o/t, Im not well versed in audio things
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for both AVR and soundbar ?
so basically if you want to hook up any soundbar to TV via HDMI - you have to use the 1 ARC/eARC port ? otherwise it wont even work ?

if thats the case then yeah I hope the eARC port here is one of the HDMI 2.0 ones ...


and if you connect the soundbar to TV without HDMI (like via optical) - can you still get all the same sound formats, Dolby Atmos etc. ? Or is that only via HDMI ARC ?


sorry for o/t, Im not well versed in audio things
It has to do with the bit rate and number of channels (quality) that can be transferred. But we are getting off topic to the thread...

https://www.whathifi.com/advice/hdmi...u-need-to-know

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-audio...for-beginners/

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...ed-works-care/
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and if you connect the soundbar to TV without HDMI (like via optical) - can you still get all the same sound formats, Dolby Atmos etc. ? Or is that only via HDMI ARC ?


sorry for o/t, Im not well versed in audio things
Optical does not support lossless audio, like Atmos. You need eARC (not ARC) support.
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We won't hear that from Sony, especially not the number of zones. That info will come from reviewers.

I have a sneaking suspicion the peak brightness and number of zones will be very similar, perhaps identical, to the X900E, though! Time will tell...
If that's the case, that would be very disappointing, and would get curb stomped by Vizio for the same price. I was hoping to go with Sony again, but 1000nits peak brightness vs 3000nits for the same or comparably priced Vizio is too big of a difference to ignore. Screen brightness isn't the be-all end-all of display and picture quality, and I have hope that if they are rumored to include the honey comb design we can expect phenomenal screen uniformity and contrast. That alone would sway my decision in Sony's favor. But I guess we'll see, because Vizio isn't asleep at the wheel this year and their TV's may be even more compatible with Sony's next gen console (PS5), than Sony's own television models.
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The wait is over, this will replace my Sony HX850 from 2012 (which still looks great, but it's finally time..... )
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