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Worrying about that is a bit much.

For the potential of the number of TV's I might buy, important to me.
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From the earlier question, I don’t think ATSC 3.0 is backward compatible. That’s what ATSC.org says. I’m fairly certain TVs with ATSC 3.0 are adding it as an additional tuner so there are two tuners in the sets.

I’m guessing any references to “firmware upgradable” would more likely means the feature is there but will be turned on when (broadcasts) ready. Again, not sure why there’s a need to firmware upgrade if it’s a different piece of hardware.
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Did you jump on the x900f?
Looking at 65" ....coming from a 55"

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I have not yet. Still thinking about it. Once Samsung gets me the refund for my Q90R, I will be making the purchase of something new. I have it down to a few models. Most likely LED, but OLED is not completely out of the picture yet.

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Who cares? You can't possibly be watching all networks at once. I bet CBS All Access is way better than CBS broadcast, Disney+ is better than any of the Disney's channels, and so on. HBO is not broadcasting. Even CNN, Fox News, CNBC, ESPN (whatever rocks your world) are all on cable. So why care about broadcasts?
I'm a cord cutter. If the internet goes out or a storm causes us to use our generator, the antenna will keep us entertained and informed. I'm not sure why you're knocking on someone who chooses not to pay or who wants to add to the services they feel justify paying for. tsk tsk.
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I’m guessing any references to “firmware upgradable” would more likely means the feature is there but will be turned on when (broadcasts) ready. Again, not sure why there’s a need to firmware upgrade if it’s a different piece of hardware.
So people won't go to their settings, notice the ATSC 3.0 tuner, disable their ATSC 1.0 tuner, and then complain that they can't receive any channels.

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I'm a cord cutter. If the internet goes out or a storm causes us to use our generator, the antenna will keep us entertained and informed. I'm not sure why you're knocking on someone who chooses not to pay or who wants to add to the services they feel justify paying for. tsk tsk.

No, I'm not picking on anyone, just joking. However, I really can't stand the amount of commercials in broadcast TV. In effect, you might be saving cash by watching "free" content, but you are paying with time. But, definitely, to each their own.
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I really can't stand the amount of commercials in broadcast TV. In effect, you might be saving cash by watching "free" content, but you are paying with time.
Not if you watch only public TV, as I do.
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Not if you watch only public TV, as I do.
The PBS shows I watch all begin with several minutes of commercials and then have more afterwards from "sponsors". Then every few weeks they replace the few PBS shows I do watch with "begging" for donations while showing content I would never watch.
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Not if you watch only public TV, as I do.

I live in Germany, there is a completely different concept of TV here. There are "official" or "public" channels for which every household has to pay (there is absolutely nothing for free, moreover, a household has to pay for the public TV regardless of whether they are watching it or not, that is even if you don't have a TV you still have to pay), then there are "free" (on top of what you are paying already) "private" channels, and then there is "pay-TV", something you need to pay more for. And then there are streaming services. The only way to watch a show without advertising is either to use streaming services or to buy DVD sets. The latter is the cheapest option (provided you sell the discs once you watch them), but then there is a significant delay. Official news are largely ad free though.
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So people won't go to their settings, notice the ATSC 3.0 tuner, disable their ATSC 1.0 tuner, and then complain that they can't receive any channels.
So if they disable it and get no channels, the next most likely thing is to enable it and then it’s all fine. Allowing user control of the devices and settings is better than disabling a feature.
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Curious on how this will match up to the Samsung q80t...

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I'm a cord cutter. If the internet goes out or a storm causes us to use our generator, the antenna will keep us entertained and informed.
I hear ya, so many options today to cutting that cord.....
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Curious on how this will match up to the Samsung q80t...



At least 2 HDMI 2.1(48gb/s ?) vs 1 HDMI 2.1(40gb/s ?) Q8

Dolby Vision vs HDR + Q8

LIKELY less black crush than the Q8

32? vs 50? zones Q8
Likely better motion than the Q8.

Likely no picture degradation in game mode unlike the Q8.


ATSC 3.0
Sony>Samsung IMO

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Curious on how this will match up to the Samsung q80t...



At least 2 HDMI 2.1(48gb/s ?) vs 1 HDMI 2.1(40gb/s ?) Q8

Dolby Vision vs HDR + Q8

LIKELY less black crush than the Q8

32? vs 50? zones Q8
Likely better motion than the Q8.

Likely no picture degradation in game mode unlike the Q8.


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Is it new that Amazon is showing a "release date" of June 5th? I've only been checking BB.
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Is it new that Amazon is showing a "release date" of June 5th? I've only been checking BB.
its been that way for a bit. I have been checking BB as well. I'm a bit leary to go with Amazon, due to maybe needing to exchange tvs. It would be way easier with BB.
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I thought bestbuy sold out?

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Is it new that Amazon is showing a "release date" of June 5th? I've only been checking BB.
I can only speak for the 75-inch model. Its availability date (June 12) appeared on Amazon just 2 or 3 days ago.
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I thought bestbuy sold out?
Best Buy has never had them in stock, never had the option to add to cart or preorder. The "sold out" is basically a place holder until they can get a date for either in stock or preorder.
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I can only speak for the 75-inch model. Its availability date (June 12) appeared on Amazon just 2 or 3 days ago.
Well, they're now taking preorders. However, I've seen preorders take up to two weeks longer than the expected in stock or ship date. Preorder of the 75" doesn't result in the usual schedule format, and instead shows an arrival date of June 5th on the check out page. The previous page does state that the carrier will call you before the delivery date to set up a delivery time. I expect that those ordering under these condition will be bitching about things not happening fast enough, or not hearing from the carrier and having to try to track that down, etc. It won't be pretty.
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Anyone considering ordering from Amazon must be aware that the following is stated under the Scheduled Delivery section: "Deliveries are limited to front door until further notice." You may be able to bribe the delivery people, but don't count on it.

Best Buy's safe delivery policy depends on where you live. Read here:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/shop-co...te-restriction
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Anyone considering ordering from Amazon must be aware that the following is stated under the Scheduled Delivery section: "Deliveries are limited to front door until further notice." You may be able to bribe the delivery people, but don't count on it.

Best Buy's safe delivery policy depends on where you live. Read here:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/shop-co...te-restriction

Unless something fundamentally changes in the next three weeks, there's almost zero chance I won't be home when delivery takes place, so that shouldn't be an issue. And my Amazon Prime Reward Points more than make up for the trouble of having to haul it in myself.
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If you plan to rely on the X900H's built-in sound, bear in mind that Sony's best speaker setup is reserved for the 55, 65, and 75. The 85's speakers will still be great. Just not insanely great.
Hello, I am interested in the X900H built in sound. Sony.com states 'This feature is available on TVs larger than 65 " (diag.)' when referencing Acoustic Multi-Audio. This would indicate to me the 75" and 85" have the premium sound.

It seems contradictory to what the specs indicate. Am I misinterpreting something?
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Hello, I am interested in the X900H built in sound. Sony.com states 'This feature is available on TVs larger than 65 " (diag.)' when referencing Acoustic Multi-Audio. This would indicate to me the 75" and 85" have the premium sound.

It seems contradictory to what the specs indicate. Am I misinterpreting something?

According to the Sony site, 65, 75, and 85 have Acoustic Multi-Audio.
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Hello, I am interested in the X900H built in sound. Sony.com states 'This feature is available on TVs larger than 65 " (diag.)' when referencing Acoustic Multi-Audio. This would indicate to me the 75" and 85" have the premium sound.

It seems contradictory to what the specs indicate. Am I misinterpreting something?
I was wrong. I was thinking of the X950H. According to the full specs, the 85-inch 950H has "Acoustic Multi-Audio; Sound Positioning Tweeter" but the smaller models have "Acoustic Multi-Audio; Sound Positioning Tweeter; X-Balanced Speaker."


Likewise for audio power output. On the 85-inch X950H, it's 10 W + 10 W. For the smaller models, it's 10 W + 10 W + 5 W + 5 W.
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So VE now says June 5th or sooner...
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Good Morning,
I plan on purchasing the 75” x900H once it comes out. I already have a Sonos Arc on preorder, and the x900H should be perfect for Dolby Atmos. I am brand new to purchasing tv’s on release. I always do it when they’re on sale later in the cycle.
I guess, for Sony specifically, does anyone have any idea how soon after release do Sony televisions drop below MSRP? It looks like every currently available Sony television is listed below MSRP, and only preorders are at MSRP. Like I said, I’m new to this and don’t know if I should preorder or wait until release day
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Quick question about the X900H vs X900F.

Ive been looking to upgrade to an 85", was set on the X900F until I saw the H is out soon.

Ill be using this TV for blu ray, 4k blu ray, and ps4 pro (and eventually ps5). I've been reading about the hdmi 2.1 and it seems it won't be a huge game changer this Gen since games most likely won't be running higher than 4k 60fps. Additionally I play only single player RPGs so i don't need any competitive edge.

Anyway, is it worth the extra money to get the H over the F? I want the H for future proofing and I hear the F isn't getting any firmware updates going forward. I assume since it's the next model it'll be an upgrade over the already great F.

Am I taking a chance pre-ordering the H? I want a new TV by the end of June so I can play ghost of tsushima. I worry if I wait for release and reviews I may not get it in time but I also worry if I don't wait I may end up with a lesser tv

What's everyones thoughts?
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I plan on purchasing the 75” x900H once it comes out. I already have a Sonos Arc on preorder, and the x900H should be perfect for Dolby Atmos. I am brand new to purchasing tv’s on release. I always do it when they’re on sale later in the cycle.
I guess, for Sony specifically, does anyone have any idea how soon after release do Sony televisions drop below MSRP? It looks like every currently available Sony television is listed below MSRP, and only preorders are at MSRP. Like I said, I’m new to this and don’t know if I should preorder or wait until release day
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Quick question about the X900H vs X900F.

Ive been looking to upgrade to an 85", was set on the X900F until I saw the H is out soon.

Ill be using this TV for blu ray, 4k blu ray, and ps4 pro (and eventually ps5). I've been reading about the hdmi 2.1 and it seems it won't be a huge game changer this Gen since games most likely won't be running higher than 4k 60fps. Additionally I play only single player RPGs so i don't need any competitive edge.

Anyway, is it worth the extra money to get the H over the F? I want the H for future proofing and I hear the F isn't getting any firmware updates going forward. I assume since it's the next model it'll be an upgrade over the already great F.

Am I taking a chance pre-ordering the H? I want a new TV by the end of June so I can play ghost of tsushima. I worry if I wait for release and reviews I may not get it in time but I also worry if I don't wait I may end up with a lesser tv

What's everyones thoughts?
If you are considering a X900H in 2020... I would pre-order.
These TV's are highly anticipated.





The next gen consoles will use 120fps whether it be 1440p,Fake or true 4K they will utilize it. Talks are already happening for some XSX games having 120fps.
Non competitive games won't have 120fps so I guess you don't have to worry.
The X900F Input lag isn't that good though
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