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Samsung Q800T 8K QLED Hands-On

The Samsung Q800T 8K QLED is now available to order in the U.S. It is available in 65″, 75″ and 82″ screen sizes and offers exceptional performance whether used as a living room TV, for gaming, or in a dedicated home theater. If you seek a TV that can “do it all” the Q800T 8K QLED is an excellent choice.

Read the hands-on review of the Samsung Q800T 8K QLED by clicking here.

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HDMI Port 4 is the only HDMI 2.1 port?
According to the manual for the Q800T, it is the only port that handles the resolutions and frame rates like 8K/60 Hz and 4K/120 Hz 10-bit.
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So despite having HDMI 2.1, it is limited to 4K @60Hz? Is the 900T (950TS) similarly throttled?
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So despite having HDMI 2.1, it is limited to 4K @60Hz? Is the 900T (950TS) similarly throttled?
Not with HDMI port 4. That one will do 4K 120 Hz. the 4K 60 Hz limit is for VRR.

The manual for the other models has not been released yet, nor have they been made available for hands-on experiences yet. So I cannot answer whether it only has one full band with 8K HDMI port or more.

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Not with HDMI port 4. That one will do 4K 120 Hz. the 4K 60 Hz limit is for VRR.

The manual for the other models has not been released yet, nor have they been made available for hands-on experiences yet. So I cannot answer whether it only has one full band with 8K HDMI port or more.
Thanks for the clarification, I just wanted to make sure at least ONE port has [email protected]!
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Not with HDMI port 4. That one will do 4K 120 Hz. the 4K 60 Hz limit is for VRR.
Such limited VRR range makes no sense when you can do 120hz. We will have to wait for real tests. Hopefully it is just a manual error.

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The manual for the other models has not been released yet, nor have they been made available for hands-on experiences yet. So I cannot answer whether it only has one full band with 8K HDMI port or more.
Manual is the same for all models. That's why it says "Q800T series or higher".
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This very detailed Test from HDGuru (no offense) says that every port is HDMI 2.1 ?



https://hdguru.com/review-samsungs-q...r-8k-adoption/


Like Antarius said, it makes no sense to stay at 48-60hz Freesync Range like previous years when you have a true 48Gbps Port. Especially if it can do 4K 120hz 4:4:4.

Afaik its just a software thing to implement the two Variable Refresh Rate technologys like Freesync and GSnyc. LG certified for Gsync with their 2019 models through a software update.


So my questions to Samsung would be =



Is VRR Range 40-120hz support possible ?
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[quote=winterbegins;59349320]This very detailed Test from HDGuru (no offense) says that every port is HDMI 2.1 ?


https://hdguru.com/review-samsungs-q...r-8k-adoption/


Like Antarius said, it makes no sense to stay at 48-60hz Freesync Range like previous years when you have a true 48Gbps Port. Especially if it can do 4K 120hz 4:4:4.

Afaik its just a software thing to implement the two Variable Refresh Rate technologys like Freesync and GSnyc. LG certified for Gsync with their 2019 models through a software update.


So my questions to Samsung would be =

Is VRR Range 40-120hz support possible ?[/quote]

I'll go with the manual until something states/proves otherwise. I'll also ask Samsung to confirm and about that other question.
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Also i would like to add that if you scroll up the page on the user manual you find this chart.


This chart basically says that almost every model can do 4K 120hz @ 4:4:4 on HDMI Port 4. Which would imply that these are all 48Gbps HDMI 2.1 Ports. But we already know that Samsung does not have 2.1 in their 4K Range.

This manual has a lot of mistakes.
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Also i would like to add that if you scroll up the page on the user manual you find this chart.


This chart basically says that almost every model can do 4K 120hz @ 4:4:4 on HDMI Port 4. Which would imply that these are all 48Gbps HDMI 2.1 Ports. But we already know that Samsung does not have 2.1 in their 4K Range.

This manual has a lot of mistakes.

Interesting. I'd suggest waiting until I get an answer about this from Samsung before coming to that conclusion.
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What version of this is sold at Costco ?...

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This very detailed Test from HDGuru (no offense) says that every port is HDMI 2.1 ?
https://hdguru.com/review-samsungs-q...r-8k-adoption/
From that article you mentioned.
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So far they say same thing as the manual, just one port is 2.1 with 48 Gbps.
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What version of this is sold at Costco ?...
Much lower end sets unfortunately last year the Q70R I believe was the top model they sold for Samsung. For some odd reason they only carry LG’s high end TVs the C9.
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Great review for sure and looks promising. How does this set compare to the Z9g?
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I guess I have to pay Samsung's asking price

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Does this set include an ATSC 3.0 tuner?


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Great review for sure and looks promising. How does this set compare to the Z9g?
I'd like to know how it compares to the LG77" which is more than $2k less.

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Does this set include an ATSC 3.0 tuner?

I guess if this hasn't changed it does - https://www.cnet.com/news/want-free-...ners-built-in/

I'm waiting as well to confirm it is I'll be upgrading the 55 inch 4k Sony I have (to a 65 inch set) and rotating the old 4k set.
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I guess if this hasn't changed it does - https://www.cnet.com/news/want-free-...ners-built-in/

I'm waiting as well to confirm it is I'll be upgrading the 55 inch 4k Sony I have (to a 65 inch set) and rotating the old 4k set.
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BTW noticed your Thiel CS 3.7s. Just curious -- how old are those?

I was fortunate to have the opportunity to tour the Thiel facility back in the day when Jim was running the show. Really liked his products!
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What? No ATSC 3.0 tuner built-in?
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Afaik its just a software thing to implement the two Variable Refresh Rate technologys like Freesync and GSnyc. LG certified for Gsync with their 2019 models through a software update.
In order to have G-Sync, the device requires a proprietary module made by Nvidia to be embedded into the hardware.
Nvidia continues to face criticism over this proprietary hardware requirement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_G-Sync
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In order to have G-Sync, the device requires a proprietary module made by Nvidia to be embedded into the hardware.
Nvidia continues to face criticism over this proprietary hardware requirement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_G-Sync
Google Gsync Compatible.
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Google Gsync Compatible.
What even is Google Gsync?
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In order to have G-Sync, the device requires a proprietary module made by Nvidia to be embedded into the hardware.
Nvidia continues to face criticism over this proprietary hardware requirement.

Thats not the case anymore. Nvidia also made the RTX cards Freesync compatible in the monitor market and thats what they did with the OLEDs aswell. They just slapped on the GSync logo and thats it - all made possible to the open VRR standard in HDMI 2.1. I highly doubt that LG bought hardware and then waited more than half a year after release of the TVs to activate it.

Also they adding AMD Freesync aswell.
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What even is Google Gsync?

He says you should put "Gsync Compatible" into Google which leads to a list of compatible Displays for Nvidia Cards. They made these list so people can see if their Freesync monitor etc works with Nvidia cards.
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Thats not the case anymore. Nvidia also made the RTX cards Freesync compatible in the monitor market and thats what they did with the OLEDs aswell. They just slapped on the GSync logo and thats it - all made possible to the open VRR standard in HDMI 2.1. I highly doubt that LG bought hardware and then waited more than half a year after release of the TVs to activate it.

Also they adding AMD Freesync aswell.
OHHHHH! Right... this explains a lot. Thanks. I was wondering how EA managed to do it. I assumed they added the module at production and worked on firmware until it was fully tested before releasing it to the masses.
Thanks for explaining. I've just realised I am far behind the times now.

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He says you should put "Gsync Compatible" into Google which leads to a list of compatible Displays for Nvidia Cards. They made these list so people can see if their Freesync monitor etc works with Nvidia cards.
Thanks for clarifying.
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For those interested, 85" Q950TS ts up on Samsung site.

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