2020 Samsung Q90T Owners Thread - No Price Talk - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 367Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 1557 Old 04-18-2020, 07:58 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 117
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 61
The Samsung Q90T is Samsung's top 4K QLED model for 2020. It is available in 55″, 65″ and 75″ screen sizes while delivering superb picture quality. This TV is great for use in the living room TV, bedroom, den… it thrives in bright as well as dark spaces. The Q90T excels at gaming, streaming, watching movies and more.
Zooiez123 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 1557 Old 04-18-2020, 08:01 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 117
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 61
I can’t wait for a users performance review
Zooiez123 is offline  
post #3 of 1557 Old 04-19-2020, 08:12 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 89
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Liked: 69
I picked up a 55" Q90T from BB a couple days ago. I'm not nearly as qualified as some to give a complete review, but after a few more days of evaluation I'll attempt to elaborate. As an owner of a Q8FN (which this will replace), a Q9FN, a Q90R, A C7 & a C9, I have a lot to compare it to. So far, I am relatively impressed. I think this might be a keeper. It generally takes me several weeks to finally decide on a panel; the room this tv is installed in requires a 55", so I don't know how relevant my observations will be for those who go with 65"+. I prematurely evaluated a Q80R and a Q900R last year as acceptable and even desirable, but after several more weeks of use ended up returning them both. More to come.
srust is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 1557 Old 04-20-2020, 04:12 PM
Member
 
adampk17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 24
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zooiez123 View Post
The Samsung Q90T is Samsung's top 4K QLED model for 2020. It is available in 55″, 65″ and 75″ screen sizes while delivering superb picture quality. This TV is great for use in the living room TV, bedroom, den… it thrives in bright as well as dark spaces. The Q90T excels at gaming, streaming, watching movies and more.

It is available in a 85” version as well, the QN85Q90T, is it not?
adampk17 is online now  
post #5 of 1557 Old 04-20-2020, 04:21 PM
Advanced Member
 
3dprojector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 917
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
Liked: 229
3dprojector is offline  
post #6 of 1557 Old 04-20-2020, 05:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Huntington Beach
Posts: 442
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 295 Post(s)
Liked: 212
Quote:
Originally Posted by srust View Post
I picked up a 55" Q90T from BB a couple days ago. I'm not nearly as qualified as some to give a complete review, but after a few more days of evaluation I'll attempt to elaborate. As an owner of a Q8FN (which this will replace), a Q9FN, a Q90R, A C7 & a C9, I have a lot to compare it to. So far, I am relatively impressed. I think this might be a keeper. It generally takes me several weeks to finally decide on a panel; the room this tv is installed in requires a 55", so I don't know how relevant my observations will be for those who go with 65"+. I prematurely evaluated a Q80R and a Q900R last year as acceptable and even desirable, but after several more weeks of use ended up returning them both. More to come.
I'd love to hear your comparisons with the Q90R as the Q90T is allegedly as good in terms of picture quality.
adampk17 and ghonk like this.
8KCRT is offline  
post #7 of 1557 Old 04-21-2020, 08:10 AM
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 448 Post(s)
Liked: 231
Glad there is a thread for this TV finally. Looking for a 65 to replace my 55Q8FN and pair with PS5 when it launches. Right now I am between the CX and the Q90T.

LG 65CX l Apple TV 4K l PS4 Pro l Nintendo Switch | Logitech Harmony Companion
saiyanzzrage is offline  
post #8 of 1557 Old 04-21-2020, 10:21 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 89
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Liked: 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8KCRT View Post
I'd love to hear your comparisons with the Q90R as the Q90T is allegedly as good in terms of picture quality.
I'm still comparing them; unfortunately they are in completely different parts of the house. Also, the Q90R is a 65" whereas the Q90T is 55". Not that there should be much difference in PQ between the sizes.

I am truly amazed at how well the Q90T handles blooming with allegedly only 96 zones versus the 480 on the Q90R. Very little clouding with subtitles. Real content shows very little blooming or clouding. Black bars on 2.35 movies are close to equal in terms of light bleed, but I still give the edge to the Q90R in this respect. I can see ever so slight bleeding into the bars with a brightly lit area adjacent to it. I don't think anyone but the most discerning videophile would notice, however. With 4x3 content, the vertical bars are not as black as I would like; not as good as the Q90R but far better than my Q8FN.

Screen uniformity is better than the Q90R, but I realize this varies by the panel. The Q90T is also a light cannon, not that the Q90R is a dim tv; it is not. However, I run my Q90R backlight at 40; my Q90T is at 30.

Shadow detail is far better with the Q90T settings OOTB. Since black levels are more important to me than shadow detail, I actually reduced the "Shadow Detail" (formerly "Brightness" on the Q90R) setting to deepen the blacks.

One other noticeable difference from older QLED Sammys I own is how the built in apps present streaming content. I personally like the Roku Ultra over the internal apps, but because I think the upscaler in the TV is far better than the one in the Roku, I set the Roku to 1080P for HD content. Then I use the built in apps for 4K rather than switch the output on the Roku constantly. On all my Sammys before now the 1080 HD content looked pretty much the same regardless if I streamed thru the built in app or the Roku. With the Q90T, the 1080 streaming content is noticeably softer than the same from the Roku. The 4K HDR looks great, however. This is no issue for me as I'll just continue to use the Roku for 1080 sourced programming.

In summary my stance so far is that the Q90T is far better than the Q8FN, roughly equivalent to the Q90R, not quite as good as the Q9FN (which is still my all time favorite LCD based display). And from what I remember since I returned them, far better than the Q80R and the Q900R.

I hope this brief summary is helpful to someone.
srust is offline  
post #9 of 1557 Old 04-21-2020, 11:00 AM
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 448 Post(s)
Liked: 231
Quote:
Originally Posted by srust View Post
I'm still comparing them; unfortunately they are in completely different parts of the house. Also, the Q90R is a 65" whereas the Q90T is 55". Not that there should be much difference in PQ between the sizes.

I am truly amazed at how well the Q90T handles blooming with allegedly only 96 zones versus the 480 on the Q90R. Very little clouding with subtitles. Real content shows very little blooming or clouding. Black bars on 2.35 movies are close to equal in terms of light bleed, but I still give the edge to the Q90R in this respect. I can see ever so slight bleeding into the bars with a brightly lit area adjacent to it. I don't think anyone but the most discerning videophile would notice, however. With 4x3 content, the vertical bars are not as black as I would like; not as good as the Q90R but far better than my Q8FN.

Screen uniformity is better than the Q90R, but I realize this varies by the panel. The Q90T is also a light cannon, not that the Q90R is a dim tv; it is not. However, I run my Q90R backlight at 40; my Q90T is at 30.

Shadow detail is far better with the Q90T settings OOTB. Since black levels are more important to me than shadow detail, I actually reduced the "Shadow Detail" (formerly "Brightness" on the Q90R) setting to deepen the blacks.

One other noticeable difference from older QLED Sammys I own is how the built in apps present streaming content. I personally like the Roku Ultra over the internal apps, but because I think the upscaler in the TV is far better than the one in the Roku, I set the Roku to 1080P for HD content. Then I use the built in apps for 4K rather than switch the output on the Roku constantly. On all my Sammys before now the 1080 HD content looked pretty much the same regardless if I streamed thru the built in app or the Roku. With the Q90T, the 1080 streaming content is noticeably softer than the same from the Roku. The 4K HDR looks great, however. This is no issue for me as I'll just continue to use the Roku for 1080 sourced programming.

In summary my stance so far is that the Q90T is far better than the Q8FN, roughly equivalent to the Q90R, not quite as good as the Q9FN (which is still my all time favorite LCD based display). And from what I remember since I returned them, far better than the Q80R and the Q900R.

I hope this brief summary is helpful to someone.
Wow, this makes things tougher to decide now. My 55Q8FN only has 40 zones so this should be a marked improvement.

Thanks for posting the info!
saiyanzzrage is offline  
post #10 of 1557 Old 04-22-2020, 02:43 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 0
I just bought a 65" Q90T and am still evaluating it, but I can say I've got a stuck red pixel far right middle of the screen, and green streaking can be seen on a full white field. I must say I am disappointed in the streaking as I heard these new 2020 Samsungs have improved on their DSE.
kurochickensoup797979 is offline  
post #11 of 1557 Old 04-22-2020, 02:46 PM
Advanced Member
 
3dprojector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 917
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
Liked: 229
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurochickensoup797979 View Post
I just bought a 65" Q90T and am still evaluating it, but I can say I've got a stuck red pixel far right middle of the screen, and green streaking can be seen on a full white field. I must say I am disappointed in the streaking as I heard these new 2020 Samsungs have improved on their DSE.
Sorry to hear that,you can ask for a refund or replacement.
3dprojector is offline  
post #12 of 1557 Old 04-22-2020, 03:01 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurochickensoup797979 View Post
I just bought a 65" Q90T and am still evaluating it, but I can say I've got a stuck red pixel far right middle of the screen, and green streaking can be seen on a full white field. I must say I am disappointed in the streaking as I heard these new 2020 Samsungs have improved on their DSE.
Sorry to hear that,you can ask for a refund or replacement.
I asked the retailer, and they said they would need to contact their distributor. Unfortunately I may be stuck with this one. I can tell it definitely is an interesting display though. I attached some HDR of Joker in the Movie preset. I haven't gotten to calibrate it yet, but I could tell by eye that it needed about -3 on Green Gain, and +3 on Blue Gain. Warm 2 color space, Local Dimming on default Standard for HDR for Dynamic Tone Mapping, but on High with SDR to turn off Dynamic Tone Mapping.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_174739_1587592482783.jpg
Views:	871
Size:	3.38 MB
ID:	2714338   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_175056_1587592496050.jpg
Views:	520
Size:	4.86 MB
ID:	2714340   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_175305_1587592510344.jpg
Views:	393
Size:	3.18 MB
ID:	2714342   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_174829_1587592523960.jpg
Views:	368
Size:	3.46 MB
ID:	2714344  
kurochickensoup797979 is offline  
post #13 of 1557 Old 04-23-2020, 08:47 AM
Member
 
Lorderl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New Haven, CT
Posts: 199
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 118 Post(s)
Liked: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurochickensoup797979 View Post
I just bought a 65" Q90T and am still evaluating it, but I can say I've got a stuck red pixel far right middle of the screen, and green streaking can be seen on a full white field. I must say I am disappointed in the streaking as I heard these new 2020 Samsungs have improved on their DSE.
Sorry to hear, I hope your refund/exchange goes through. Who is the retailer?


Also, could you post the following info:
1. Manufacter date
2. Panel model #
3. Current Firmware #


Thanks

Display: Samsung LN55B650
AVR: Denon 2809ci
Players: OPPO BDP-83 || Streaming: Amazon Fire TV || Kindle Fire HD8
Speakers: Paradigm Studio 20v3 || CC-570v3 || ADP-470v3
Sub: JTR Captivator 2400ULF-10hz
Lorderl is online now  
post #14 of 1557 Old 04-23-2020, 03:44 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 3
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorderl View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurochickensoup797979 View Post
I just bought a 65" Q90T and am still evaluating it, but I can say I've got a stuck red pixel far right middle of the screen, and green streaking can be seen on a full white field. I must say I am disappointed in the streaking as I heard these new 2020 Samsungs have improved on their DSE.
Sorry to hear, I hope your refund/exchange goes through. Who is the retailer?


Also, could you post the following info:
1. Manufacter date
2. Panel model #
3. Current Firmware #


Thanks
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_180958_1587681503932.jpg
Views:	644
Size:	3.50 MB
ID:	2715286

So it's mounted flush against the wall with no tilt so I can't find the manufacture date, but the firmware is up to date, as I checked for an update and there were none available. I have no idea where I would find the "panel model #" I attached pictures of a full feild gray pattern to show the extent of the uniformity problem. Waiting on Samsung to call me back. They want to send a technician, but I DO NOT allow anyone in my home during this COVID-19 Pandemic, as I have high risk people living here. I'm pushing for a return/exchange but it's not gotten off to a good start. Severely disappointed in the quality of this flagship model thus far.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_181027_1587681515285.jpg
Views:	415
Size:	3.49 MB
ID:	2715288   Click image for larger version

Name:	20200422_181137_1587681528619.jpg
Views:	319
Size:	3.64 MB
ID:	2715290  
kurochickensoup797979 is offline  
post #15 of 1557 Old 04-23-2020, 05:37 PM
Member
 
Lorderl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New Haven, CT
Posts: 199
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 118 Post(s)
Liked: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurochickensoup797979 View Post
Attachment 2715286

So it's mounted flush against the wall with no tilt so I can't find the manufacture date, but the firmware is up to date, as I checked for an update and there were none available. I have no idea where I would find the "panel model #" I attached pictures of a full feild gray pattern to show the extent of the uniformity problem. Waiting on Samsung to call me back. They want to send a technician, but I DO NOT allow anyone in my home during this COVID-19 Pandemic, as I have high risk people living here. I'm pushing for a return/exchange but it's not gotten off to a good start. Severely disappointed in the quality of this flagship model thus far.
My mistake, I should have mentioned that the manufacture date and panel # are on the box.

Display: Samsung LN55B650
AVR: Denon 2809ci
Players: OPPO BDP-83 || Streaming: Amazon Fire TV || Kindle Fire HD8
Speakers: Paradigm Studio 20v3 || CC-570v3 || ADP-470v3
Sub: JTR Captivator 2400ULF-10hz
Lorderl is online now  
post #16 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 06:14 PM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Just got home w/ mine, about to unbox and run some tests ( PC mainly ) also calibrations, gonna be comparing it to my older model ( 2018 )
LunaP is offline  
post #17 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 06:27 PM
Advanced Member
 
3dprojector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 917
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
Liked: 229
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
Just got home w/ mine, about to unbox and run some tests ( PC mainly ) also calibrations, gonna be comparing it to my older model ( 2018 )
hopefully everything will be just fine,and you have an exceptional set.
3dprojector is offline  
post #18 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 06:47 PM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post
hopefully everything will be just fine,and you have an exceptional set.
First thing that really stands out is the blacks, , so far no visible light bleed, but haven't started tests yet or turned off the lights, my rooms normally semi bright. I like however that I don't have to worry abotu putting the old stand on it ( after market one I bought for my older one to make sure it was flush w/ the desk )


Current setup in which this will be replacing.
improwise and 3dprojector like this.
LunaP is offline  
post #19 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 07:00 PM
Advanced Member
 
3dprojector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 917
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
Liked: 229
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
First thing that really stands out is the blacks, , so far no visible light bleed, but haven't started tests yet or turned off the lights, my rooms normally semi bright. I like however that I don't have to worry abotu putting the old stand on it ( after market one I bought for my older one to make sure it was flush w/ the desk )


Current setup in which this will be replacing.
looks appealing,hope you enjoy it and comeback with a very positive report.
3dprojector is offline  
post #20 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 08:53 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
First thing that really stands out is the blacks, , so far no visible light bleed, but haven't started tests yet or turned off the lights, my rooms normally semi bright. I like however that I don't have to worry abotu putting the old stand on it ( after market one I bought for my older one to make sure it was flush w/ the desk )


Current setup in which this will be replacing.
Excellent. Please let us know how good the black levels are with game mode on and off, and specifically the impact of Dynamic Black Equalizer on black levels.

The Q90R struggled somewhat in this regard, which lead to washed out blacks in dark scenes in some video games.
Blue Sun is offline  
post #21 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 09:15 PM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post
looks appealing,hope you enjoy it and comeback with a very positive report.
Will do, first calibration just finished, so looking over everything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sun View Post
Excellent. Please let us know how good the black levels are with game mode on and off, and specifically the impact of Dynamic Black Equalizer on black levels.

The Q90R struggled somewhat in this regard, which lead to washed out blacks in dark scenes in some video games.

Yeah I just finished calibration but currently in Game mode, about to go natural and retest ( then other modes ) so far showing aRGB/DCI P3 gamuts lower than that of 2018 Q7's and nearly identical to the q9fn, I remember the q9fn had a significantly lower gamut coverage than the q7/q8fn model series back then, was hoping that was fixed this year.

Also Noticed the lack of HDR mode option ( for picture ) when using applications such as Netflix or Hulu (Only allows for natural or dynamic) , which I could set on my current, and makes everything just gorgeous ( granted I'm in that % that lows good HDR w/ color/contrast vs natural neutral ) but still browsing around to see if I can figure out how to enable it. No mention in the PDF or the manuals that came w/ it.

Tried updating the Firmware as well it wa on 1053, now on 1100.

Moving the mouse around on a black screen seems to yield a major glow/bloom effect around it ( same w/ any icons or anything, and the radius is huge, I have auto dimming set to low, but curious if I can still use the old method to completely disable it using the Remote command to access the hidden menu?) Running all calibration tests in the dark currently. If I can get it close to my previous TV's color capabilities I'll definitely be keeping it, so far it feels slightly washed out in comparison atm, but again, the main diff is HDR missing as a picture option so I can't accurately compare the 2 due to that.

Aside from the standard General devices for input, if anyone knows how to re-enable the HDR+ or HDR option for display in the picture mode, please let me know.

Last edited by LunaP; 04-27-2020 at 09:49 PM.
LunaP is offline  
post #22 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 10:01 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
Moving the mouse around on a black screen seems to yield a major glow/bloom effect around it ( same w/ any icons or anything, and the radius is huge, I have auto dimming set to low, but curious if I can still use the old method to completely disable it using the Remote command to access the hidden menu?) Running all calibration tests in the dark currently. If I can get it close to my previous TV's color capabilities I'll definitely be keeping it, so far it feels slightly washed out in comparison atm, but again, the main diff is HDR missing as a picture option so I can't accurately compare the 2 due to that.

Aside from the standard General devices for input, if anyone knows how to re-enable the HDR+ or HDR option for display in the picture mode, please let me know.
A white mouse pointer on a black background in a dark room is worst case scenario for a QLED though right? I can't imagine any QLED handling that well.

I hope you manage to enable HDR! Strange that there is no option for it.
Blue Sun is offline  
post #23 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 10:06 PM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sun View Post
A white mouse pointer on a black background in a dark room is worst case scenario for a QLED though right? I can't imagine any QLED handling that well.

I hope you manage to enable HDR! Strange that there is no option for it.
Mouse or icons, its odd, doesn't do that much on the other, but not really a concern at this point unless scenes/game environments have this issue too....

As for HDR I was only able to enable the HDMI ports for it but still no HDR option for picture, which is VERY odd... I see there's a later version on the samsung website for firmware, so I'm going to manually download that and see if it helps.
LunaP is offline  
post #24 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 10:25 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
Mouse or icons, its odd, doesn't do that much on the other, but not really a concern at this point unless scenes/game environments have this issue too....

As for HDR I was only able to enable the HDMI ports for it but still no HDR option for picture, which is VERY odd... I see there's a later version on the samsung website for firmware, so I'm going to manually download that and see if it helps.
Does this blooming occur outside of game mode i.e when the local dimming algorithm is more aggressive?
Blue Sun is offline  
post #25 of 1557 Old 04-27-2020, 10:44 PM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sun View Post
Does this blooming occur outside of game mode i.e when the local dimming algorithm is more aggressive?
Yes, though was testing w/ local dimming set to low. I'm curious if the remote hotkeys for accessing the hidden menu work on this like they did previous models. So far the main downside is the lower color gamut so colors don't pop AS much, but seems to be more in the blue range. Gonna keep testing through the night, worst case will grab a q8 tomorrow to see if its a repeat of 2018 again ( color wise)


The viewing angles are great though

*Edit*

Calibrating white point, and going from there, it still feels promising, though I hope they adjust the settings further, as the diff of 1 sharpness goes from super sharp to blurred, so can't really adjust that perfect point for gaming in a way, though I'm starting to see some promise from this, so I'm not discouraged yet!

Last edited by LunaP; 04-27-2020 at 11:13 PM.
LunaP is offline  
post #26 of 1557 Old 04-28-2020, 01:14 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
Yes, though was testing w/ local dimming set to low. I'm curious if the remote hotkeys for accessing the hidden menu work on this like they did previous models. So far the main downside is the lower color gamut so colors don't pop AS much, but seems to be more in the blue range. Gonna keep testing through the night, worst case will grab a q8 tomorrow to see if its a repeat of 2018 again ( color wise)


The viewing angles are great though

*Edit*

Calibrating white point, and going from there, it still feels promising, though I hope they adjust the settings further, as the diff of 1 sharpness goes from super sharp to blurred, so can't really adjust that perfect point for gaming in a way, though I'm starting to see some promise from this, so I'm not discouraged yet!
Vincent from HDTV Test did mention that the Q80T colours were more natural compared to Samsung QLEDs from previous years, perhaps the same is the case here? Less pop, but more accurate.
Blue Sun is offline  
post #27 of 1557 Old 04-28-2020, 01:18 AM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sun View Post
Vincent from HDTV Test did mention that the Q80T colours were more natural compared to Samsung QLEDs from previous years, perhaps the same is the case here? Less pop, but more accurate.
Yeah, though removing the HDR option wasn't nice imo, at least give us the option to set what we want, natural vs pop, diff scenario usage you know? Did they happen to mention the color gamut between the 2? Or the 8 being slightly more punchy than the 9?

Hoping I can brute force it a bit via white point and punch the colors about 5-7% up.

The wide angle viewing is nice though, only from a top down can u see a drop in contrast, though noones gonna view it that way anyways.

Next thing I definitely wanna test is the hdmi 2.1 functionality for 10bit 4:4:4 120hz 4k the DP 1.4 -> Hdmi 2.1 adapters appear to be out so waiting on those atm, and w/ the 3000 series hitting for Nvidia, I'm holding out for 2.1 ports on them as well ( SLI to support the 120hz push )

Last edited by LunaP; 04-28-2020 at 01:49 AM.
LunaP is offline  
post #28 of 1557 Old 04-28-2020, 02:06 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 95
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Liked: 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sun View Post
Vincent from HDTV Test did mention that the Q80T colours were more natural compared to Samsung QLEDs from previous years, perhaps the same is the case here? Less pop, but more accurate.
Yeah, though removing the HDR option wasn't nice imo, at least give us the option to set what we want, natural vs pop, diff scenario usage you know? Did they happen to mention the color gamut between the 2? Or the 8 being slightly more punchy than the 9?

Hoping I can brute force it a bit via white point and punch the colors about 5-7% up.

The wide angle viewing is nice though, only from a top down can u see a drop in contrast, though noones gonna view it that way anyways.

Next thing I definitely wanna test is the hdmi 2.1 functionality for 10bit 4:4:4 120hz 4k the DP 1.4 -> Hdmi 2.1 adapters appear to be out so waiting on those atm, and w/ the 3000 series hitting for Nvidia, I'm holding out for 2.1 ports on them as well ( SLI to support the 120hz push )
I’m not sure actually.

Based on your experience with the TV so far, do you think a 65” Q90T would be decent for gaming, sitting about 10 feet away? I’m worried about poor black level performance in dark games specifically. It wouldn’t be a pitch black room FWIW, there’d be some ambient lighting. Also, is there significant blooming with Local Dimming set to high and Shadow Detail reduced? I’m hoping not!
Blue Sun is offline  
post #29 of 1557 Old 04-28-2020, 02:14 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
denpom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,910
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1423 Post(s)
Liked: 1239
Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaP View Post
Yeah, though removing the HDR option wasn't nice imo, at least give us the option to set what we want, natural vs pop, diff scenario usage you know? Did they happen to mention the color gamut between the 2? Or the 8 being slightly more punchy than the 9?
are you talking about the "fake" HDR option in the Picture settings menu that was present in the 2018 models? why do you miss it exactly?
denpom is online now  
post #30 of 1557 Old 04-28-2020, 02:39 AM
Member
 
LunaP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 187
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Sun View Post
I’m not sure actually.

Based on your experience with the TV so far, do you think a 65” Q90T would be decent for gaming, sitting about 10 feet away? I’m worried about poor black level performance in dark games specifically. It wouldn’t be a pitch black room FWIW, there’d be some ambient lighting. Also, is there significant blooming with Local Dimming set to high and Shadow Detail reduced? I’m hoping not!
Well 10 feet away ur not gonna notice the slight screendoor that seems prominent on the 9 series ( since 2017 that I've noticed) not sure if its the direct LED mention or how the matrix/grid layout is. As far as darks they're still nice, though I read that due to the wide viewing angles it drops contrast a bit, but still has more than the 8. Granted if ur sitting that far back the minor things won't bother u at all since as I was saying earlier its sorta faded and only prominent at angles in a dark room ( no lights ), so should be fine w/ either.

Quote:
Originally Posted by denpom View Post
are you talking about the "fake" HDR option in the Picture settings menu that was present in the 2018 models? why do you miss it exactly?
Mainly for the reason mentioned above but Fake or not I still love the way it made things look (personally)

Since u mentioned 2018 and not 2019, I'm guessing it was removed last year then, since we own the 2017 and 2018 models in our house mainly, skipped on the 2019 when no hdmi 2.1 was mentioned. It made anime gorgeous as heck, and most netflix 4k types <3 I miss it.
As for what we watch, its mostly Kdramas, Anime, and games + occasional youtube, and mostly kids movies since I have 2, so punchy colors really looks nice on the stuff we bring in.

For me personally I play mostly MMO's on it that have vibrant colors that REALLY pop on these TV's, especially fashion related stuff, costumes, etc , I love it!

Now its just Dynamic or standard ( no movie or anything else ) and oddly dynamic has less of a range or feels limited in comparison to standard, so its basically up to proper white point calibration PER application source to dial it into what I want. It's always sad/annoying when options are removed, narrowing down the capabilities ( despite how some may feel / see them ) freedom of choice is nice.

Last edited by LunaP; 04-28-2020 at 03:03 AM.
LunaP is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply LCD Flat Panel Displays

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off