"This one goes to eleven." Martin Logan Descent-i subwoofer
Will repeatedly restoring the black level's to original levels every 150 hours, or so, have any adverse effect on the set's hardware/software? I am quite naive when it comes to electronic circuitry and thus I'm thinking that repeated resetting may break something????
But anyway, the same PMCv1 today supports both 2008-2009 and 2010 models. I just have to attach the proper connector.
I am not sure the best way to go about doing this. Aperture/fstop, Exposure/shutter-speed, and White Balance will all affect the outcome of the photo. Even professionals over at dpreview.com argue to no end about how to get those things correct on digital cameras when trying to A/B compare photos. Most digital cameras will let you fix the aperture and/or exposure. Some will let you manually set both. White balance is a little harder.. At least per-camera you should be able to set it to the "same setting" (instead of "Auto"), such as incandescent.
I am very hopeful to get both photos and feedback once the units are received and plugged in.. I just hope they are as "true" a comparison as possible.
Ha ha ha.. this made me laugh. Thanks for the comment! (I'm hoping you're not DRIVING while checking the website??)
I have on my list tonight to put a few units up on eBay's GSP. I am interested in what the shipping estimates come out to be..
Attached is a snapshot of who is pinging the website each week.. There's no way little old me can handle so many different countries' customs forms.. If you have better ideas, please let me know!
thanks again, everyone, for your continued support. This project has been a long long time coming, and I'm humbled to to see people have stuck around through all the delays and to read these positive comments. thank you.
2008-2010 Panasonic Plasma Black Level (MLL) Restoration:
- mironto's DIY Instructions (Using an Arduino)
- audiodane's PMCv1/v2 (for Automatic Restoration)
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Last edited by audiodane; 10-13-2014 at 03:10 PM.
Thank you flycaster. The Good Lord has blessed me beyond measure, and I give Him *ALL* the glory. You are right, I truly do love doing what God has gifted me to do.. (There is such a longer discussion behind those words than we have time for today..) But even with that said, I was not the one to develop the fix- thanks goes primarily to clktmr who first discovered the fix, MARKONE for verifying it, and mironto for developing a set of instructions for the technically minded to easily follow. I have stood firmly on the shoulders of those fellows and "simply" applied my knowledge of electronics design to capture the whole procedure into a small autonomous device.. ( As we say at work several times per week, "All ya' gotta do is ..." )
I just hope the PMCv1 works for everyone as well as they are expecting. Comments like yours are wonderful for the ego, but also terrifying in the sobering event that any single customer's TV doesn't respond as I (and they) hope. I have a total of 98 units to sell in this first batch.. That's 98 chances to fail in a very public setting.. Talk about "stage fright."
So with crossed fingers, thank you for your kind words..
"Ya see, we plan ahead. That way we don't do anything right now. Earl explained it to me." - Valentine McKee
One sub to rumble them all. One sub to shake them. One sub to humble them all. And in the darkness break them....
Time was 12,834 or 534.75 days. Seems I've used it a lot. And my V10 has been powered on 4047 times.
Hope I see a big difference in black levels.
12834 / 4047 = around 3hrs per viewing.. That's intense! I checked mine the other day and came up with 7307hrs / 6248cycles = ~1 hour per power-cycle.. However lately I've been racking up power cycles with little (if any) "on" time while developing the PMCv1.. I probably added a few hundred power-cycles in recent weeks ... Still, I'm nowhere near 3hrs per power cycle! We have three young kids though.. (the remote is a kid-safe toy, right??)
Shipping and GSP costs to Germany:
Thats all together $105,02 or something about €83,00 at today's exchange rate.
Archetim (who hopes the carrier will not take the full 2 weeks of estimated shipping time )
"... If/when I do a second run of boards, it will be PMCv1d because I learned a few things when soldering on all those connectors... I put a few things a little too close together and had to pay careful attention to not short them out. The next batch of boards will be "longer" by about 1/4" or so most likely to make it easier to manufacture the next time around.."
Sorry, Dane, but got to ask: As I will be getting (tomorrow) one of the first PMCv1 boards, should I have any concerns about things shorting out due to putting "...a few things a little too close together..?"
So once I've got it hooked up is it supposed to hang outside with the service cover off or will I be able to tuck it down inside the set without shorting things out or otherwise causing problems?
Alas, I will most likely not have the time to install it until this weekend, as I tonight promised to take my 14 YO daughter shopping for a dress for her western-themed school dance this Saturday, and my Friday evenings always seem to be busy.
It is a total PITA to access the rear of my 65V10 panel (pic attached), and I'm not getting any younger or stronger. I'll need to ask one of my strong-backed (younger) neighbors for a hand . . .
I'll report back with my results ASAP.
Last edited by Lloyd-TX; 10-16-2014 at 01:25 PM.
The idea is tuck it in and replace the cover... That's why there's shrink-wrap around the soldered parts -- to keep things from shorting out inside the back of the TV.. Once you're sure it's working (read the instructions), then just tuck it in and replace the cover!
Do you have a hand mirror? It looks like there's enough room there for you to angle the TV slightly (pull the left side out and push the right side back) and get behind there without too much effort. A hand mirror should give you plenty of visibility. (fingers crossed!)
You are correct! Being an electronics guy... you're not looking to clone the PMCv1 and under-sell me, are you????
I am a power supply/analog guy. If I have any experience in programming and such, I would attempted the Mironto's idea awhile back. So no, I won't even think of cloning your work .
Dane, USPS web site shows that mine will be here tomorrow. My 54V10 is on a swivel mount. I can put the board in in about a minute!
Thanks for all the effort again.
Dane, Should the hours counter be reset as well? I checked before and after, and my hours/count numbers were not reset. But the pictures do show that the image is darker. Just wondering.
Plugged it in and turned the TV ON. Reset successfully!
1. As Dane described in the instructions, after the reset, the green LED was blinking once every few seconds. After the TV is turned OFF, the green LED is now constantly ON. Turn ON the TV again, and the green LED keeps constantly ON. I assume it is correct? It only blinks in the cycle when it is resetting?
2. After the reset, the TV was ON and it still showed the normal image. But it went into the initial "select language" screen. Press return and it went back to normal.
3. Using the "Vol-" for 3 sec, "Info"... method, the clock still shows 8440 hours. I assume this is a different clock and is not reset by this procedure?
As I could not wait for the evening, I reset the TV without taking a "before" picture. But in any case, the black level is a lot better now.
Thanks again and again for Dane's efforts.
Last edited by zhe zhang; 10-16-2014 at 06:19 PM.
The hours in the service menu are a separate counter and will continue recording the "true" hours on the TV. The timer that affects the black level is a different one, and it is the only one that is reset by the PMCv1. So, you will always know how many "true" hours are logged on the TV even after the PMCv1 has been installed for years..
1) Yes, the green LED will remain constant when it's just sitting around.. When you turn on the TV, if it does NOT need to be reset, then it'll just stay a solid green color and you can continue to enjoy.. 150 hours later, it'll do the blink thing again; turn off, turn back on, solid green and enjoy..
2) Ahh.. because you unplugged the TV. This is normal.. It will do the same thing whenver you turn it on for the first time after a power outage.. Even when you turn the tv off, it's still "powered" so the remote control still works. WHen you actually pull the plug out of the wall, the next time you plug it in and turn it on, it will give you the language screen.
Thanks for the pictures!