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Check out my settings, post #9. Mouse's are good too, and those other ones I found arnt bad. Plus Miller has his on tweaktv. Id checkem all out & see what you like.

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Thanks, I've got yours tapped in already, they look good, thanks. I used to hate movie and warm 2 on the ES8000 and F8000 LEDs, it was far too washed out and yellow but this plasma is a different animal, it looks really good.
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Thanks, I've got yours tapped in already, they look good, thanks. I used to hate movie and warm 2 on the ES8000 and F8000 LEDs, it was far too washed out and yellow but this plasma is a different animal, it looks really good.

Arenaman, Since you had the F8000 and now the F8500, how do you feel that you made the exchange. To be honest I like the design of F8000 more than F8500 but I know F8500 have a superior PQ

In terms of PQ and issues how would you evaluate both?

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Arenaman, Since you had the F8000 and now the F8500, how do you feel that you made the exchange. To be honest I like the design of F8000 more than F8500 but I know F8500 have a superior PQ

In terms of PQ and issues how would you evaluate both?

Ok remember the UK F8000 doesn't have precision black or smart LED like the US set does but I'll do my best based on what I've seen.

The extra size is great for starters, I'm a big lover of the bright LED look so had my reservations about switching but straight away noticed that he plasma has all the vibrancy of the LED. It matches and actually surpasses the LED in terms of overall PQ on blu ray and HD as it has better blacks and shadow detail in the blacks. SD is also much much better, it was terrible on the LED but I don't watch much SD anyway There are also no off angle issues at all like the LED had, no washout of picture when you so much as tilt your head a degree either way.

Motion is better on the plasma, no blurring or jumping of a golf ball in flight like there was a little of on the LED but fast moving action scenes are actually fine on both sets

3D is better, near perfect in terms of crosstalk.

On the downside there's a slight bit of popping (nothing too serious) slight buzz and heat but it's tolerable and this feint bar issue which is bugging me a little but I have to remind myself how bad the uniformity on the LED was then it becomes a non issue, very slight IR noticed too which clears quickly.

The LED wins in the aesthetic department and energy consumption but that's about it, having said that the LED has a stunning PQ and I loved it in a lot of ways so I don't want to sound like I'm slating it, it's more a case of this set being so good than the LED being bad

Regarding this plasma it's like Samsung have taken the best of both technologies and created a hybrid, it's truly awesome. I was constantly fiddling with LED settings but I'm practically using out of the box settings now and don't feel like I need to change anything. I will of course that's inevitible but it looks great the way it is for now.
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Ok remember the UK F8000 doesn't have precision black or smart LED like the US set does but I'll do my best based on what I've seen.

The extra size is great for starters, I'm a big lover of the bright LED look so had my reservations about switching but straight away noticed that he plasma has all the vibrancy of the LED. It matches and actually surpasses the LED in terms of overall PQ on blu ray and HD as it has better blacks and shadow detail in the blacks. SD is also much much better, it was terrible on the LED but I don't watch much SD anyway There are also no off angle issues at all like the LED had, no washout of picture when you so much as tilt your head a degree either way.

Motion is better on the plasma, no blurring or jumping of a golf ball in flight like there was a little of on the LED but fast moving action scenes are actually fine on both sets

3D is better, near perfect in terms of crosstalk.

On the downside there's a slight bit of popping (nothing too serious) slight buzz and heat but it's tolerable and this feint bar issue which is bugging me a little but I have to remind myself how bad the uniformity on the LED was then it becomes a non issue, very slight IR noticed too which clears quickly.

The LED wins in the aesthetic department and energy consumption but that's about it, having said that the LED has a stunning PQ and I loved it in a lot of ways so I don't want to sound like I'm slating it, it's more a case of this set being so good than the LED being bad

Regarding this plasma it's like Samsung have taken the best of both technologies and created a hybrid, it's truly awesome. I was constantly fiddling with LED settings but I'm practically using out of the box settings now and don't feel like I need to change anything. I will of course that's inevitible but it looks great the way it is for now.

Thank you for the great explanation. All I have is LCD and this TV will be my first plasma TV. Hopefully it will have the feel of a LED but with better PQ. I asked you because you had both and I feel like me you too are fond of the pop and clear pic of a LED which this plasma have

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Thank you for the great explanation. All I have is LCD and this TV will be my first plasma TV. Hopefully it will have the feel of a LED but with better PQ. I asked you because you had both and I feel like me you too are fond of the pop and clear pic of a LED which this plasma have

I think you'll love it, our preferences seem similar and I'm blown away by it smile.gif
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I think you'll love it, our preferences seem similar and I'm blown away by it smile.gif
Thank you and I'm really happy that you are satisfied with your choice.

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CNET posted the settings that they used for the recent review done on the 60". they can be found at the following link:

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Also posted in the main thread.

Finally got some time today and calibrated my 51inch.

These are the settings and results i got, for bright room viewing.

Movie Mode
Cell Light: 20
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 0
Color: 50
Tint: 50/50
Dynamic Contrast: off
Black Tone: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
RGB: Off
Color Space: Custom
Red: R52, G1, B7 Green: R23, G54, B5 Blue: R0, G0, B56 Yellow: R52, G51, B0 Cyan: R20, G53, B53 Magenta: R50, G0, B56

White Balance
R-Offset: 24 G-Offset: 25 B-Offset: 27 R-Gain: 29 G-Gain: 25 B-Gain: 28

10-Point
1: (R:+1 G:0 B:-1) 2: (R:0 G:0 B:-2) 3: (R:-1 G:0 B:0) 4: (R:+1 G:0 B:0) 5: (R:0 G:0 B:-1) 6: (triple zero) 7: (R:-1 G:0 B:+1) 8: (triple zero) 9: (R:+3, G:+3 B: +3) 10: (triple zero)
Gamma: +1
Color Tone: Warm2
HDMI Black level: Greyed out (Normal)
Motion Judder: Off
Film Mode: Off
Black Optimier: Dark Room














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^remush, finally... 51" settings! thank you so much for sharing. very very much appreciate smile.gif

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^remush, finally... 51" settings! thank you so much for sharing. very very much appreciate smile.gif

No problem, let me know what you think, if you try them, especially the gamma, I raised it to +1 from zero, because i wanted a bit more detail in the very dark scenes.
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Calibration Removed. Please see here for the best one.
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My first meter calibration today.

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Very, very nice indeed.

Interestingly, the out-of-the-box readings looked pretty good.It appears that this model calibrates beautifully. BTW, what was your peak white reading. (I don't know if your version of CalMan gives it to you. If not, use the new HCFR for that data. I think you are using an i1 D3.)


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^ Apologies. 51 inch. I have edited the post.
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Very, very nice indeed.

I was aiming for the dim room settings with 2.25 gamma.
Hence the low cell light. I will play another time and try to get that a bit higher.
I shall get a peak white reading for you with HCFR.
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^ Apologies. 51 inch. I have edited the post.

oh sweet! nother 51" settings to try, thanks so much! very much smile.gif

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I was aiming for the dim room settings with 2.25 gamma.
Hence the low cell light. I will play another time and try to get that a bit higher.
I shall get a peak white reading for you with HCFR.

It should be noted, the before settings were my eyeball cal settings.


Well, then you have good eyeballs. smile.gif

I'm more interested in the peak output with Cell at 14.

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Well, then you have good eyeballs. smile.gif

I'm more interested in the peak output with Cell at 14.

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Me too, but i dont think i can drop my cell light below 18 in my room, when i try lower levels, my eyes just crave the extra brightness and I immediately turn it back up.
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^ smile.gif

Before meter calibration, I had managed to get cell up to 18 but I had gamma -1, contrast down to 85 and warm set to 1 to tone down the garish white and reds eek.gif

I don't appear to follow convention wink.gif
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Well, then you have good eyeballs. smile.gif

I'm more interested in the peak output with Cell at 14.

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Larry,

I have my set calibrated and my cell light was set to 14 by DeWayne and my light output is 37.29 fL.
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Larry,

I have my set calibrated and my cell light was set to 14 by DeWayne and my light output is 37.29 fL.


Thanks. Where did D-Nice leave the Contrast?

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Thanks. Where did D-Nice leave the Contrast?

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He left it at the default of 95 and brightness is at 48.
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^ Dan, how are you liking the cell light level? Is this your preference or the calibrators?
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^ Dan, how are you liking the cell light level? Is this your preference or the calibrators?

Let me reverse the question: "How are you liking the cell light level?" I assume fine since you did the calibration.

My preference is somewhere between 28 and 33 ftL for my very dark viewing environment. So extrapolating from the behavior of my 64D7000, the Cell would have to be set at about 10-11 on the F8500 to meet my requirements. And then I wonder about the effect on the ABL threshold with Cell set that low.

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It's certainly less eye strain and I feel you end up seeing 'more' wink.gif
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For anyone upgrading firmware, all settings are reset to defaults.
For anyone using the built in apps, it appears the CMS values do not transpose over for each viewing mode. You have to enter the values whilst playing content from an app.
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pieandchips, if you've checked MLL on your 51", can you share the measurement(s)?
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^ I have not but will do as soon as I can, perhaps tonight, if I can get wife off the damn thing...
I believe I am not crushing any black with these settings. I think once you turn cell light down a bit, the TV seems to calibrate to that spec easier.

I do want to test calibrate for bright room and see what happens. That is my next goal.

Does the 709 set have the required black image do you know?
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I believe I am not crushing any black with these settings. I think once you turn cell light down a bit, the TV seems to calibrate to that spec easier.

I'm just curious to know if the 51" is in the same ballpark as the larger screen sizes, since that hasn't always been the case with Samsung's plasmas.

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Does the 709 set have the required black image do you know?

Yes. It has a full black field, and it also has 4x4 ANSI patterns if you want to measure ANSI black or contrast ratio.
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oh sweet! nother 51" settings to try, thanks so much! very much smile.gif

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Have to give these 51" settings a try.. I'd be curious what other 51F8500 owners opinions are using these settings on their TVs and which ones look better on their particular TVs...
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