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I've been following the threads regarding plasmas and decided to pick one up while they were still available. I'm coming a from Samsung DLP that has served me very well and decided on a H5000. I ordered the set on Sunday and it was delivered yesterday so I'm ready to make the transition from DLP to plasma. Looking forward to the differences between 56" to 64" as well.


I've gone though a number of break-in threads and have a question on this.


During the initial 100 hours or so, do I leave the settings at the factory default or is it ok to start adjusting/calibrating from the start. The settings I plan to use are from what others have posted and fine tuning from there. I plan on watching everything full screen (direct tv), no gaming and some blue ray content thru a play station switching between standard and movie mode as the lighting dictates.
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I immediately put mine in movie mode and backed off Cell light to 15. Also I avoid black bars and other static images during break in. Of course other tweaks as I found them to help the display. So far I haven't noticed IR.

I also recently upgraded from a Samsung 56" A650 DLP and this 64" plasma is stunning! The DLP wasn't horrible but what a difference in black levels, color and of course size. I'm now in a quandry of what to do with a working 7 year old DLP that I don't have room for but I don't want to give away on Craigslist. For now it stands ready in case the H5000 develops infant mortality! Someone in the family will want it but right now I'm dragging my heels and wondering how I can use it myself as it's been such a good HDTV.

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None of the boxes had damage. Straight as a whisle.
Wait till the delivery crew gets ahold of those boxes! My box was pretty beat up and took a low shot that ripped out one of the four black plastic hold-downs. But the box and packing materials did their job, the TV was unharmed.

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I've been following the threads regarding plasmas and decided to pick one up while they were still available. I'm coming a from Samsung DLP that has served me very well and decided on a H5000. I ordered the set on Sunday and it was delivered yesterday so I'm ready to make the transition from DLP to plasma. Looking forward to the differences between 56" to 64" as well.


I've gone though a number of break-in threads and have a question on this.


During the initial 100 hours or so, do I leave the settings at the factory default or is it ok to start adjusting/calibrating from the start. The settings I plan to use are from what others have posted and fine tuning from there. I plan on watching everything full screen (direct tv), no gaming and some blue ray content thru a play station switching between standard and movie mode as the lighting dictates.

What I did was turn down cell light, and turned down brightness and contrast to 49. I put the break in slides on a flash drive and ran them all day till the TV was used in the eve and I kept it full screen. With the slides you can burn through that 100+ hours a lot faster. We me it would have taken a couple of months, this way I had over 100 in a week.

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Had 2 pallets today of the h5000's along with several pallets of 60f5300's at Amazon which is where I work at.
I am still debating between these two as I think the 60F5300 would look better (size wise) with where it will go. Being $400 cheaper is a plus as well. I want to buy from Amazon as they have the interest free financing and the lowest price on the extended warranties. But I am not finding any 60F5300's sold by Amazon, only from other companies that sell on Amazon, however that works.
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I considered the 60" F5300 as well, but the pink tint and other issues scared me away. I still think $1200 is a good value for what we're getting from this display, being that it beats all displays under $2500 (and that $2500 display is the F8500). And since the F8500 is only bested by OLED, we're in a pretty exclusive club

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I considered the 60" F5300 as well, but the pink tint and other issues scared me away. I still think $1200 is a good value for what we're getting from this display, being that it beats all displays under $2500 (and that $2500 display is the F8500). And since the F8500 is only bested by OLED, we're in a pretty exclusive club
I only considered the H5000 since 64" was my minimum size but its just a great display. No way to argue it. Its the best blind buy, "lets give it a try" purchase Ive ever made. Completely sight-unseen. The closest set I could actually see in person was a 51" 5300.

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I am still debating between these two as I think the 60F5300 would look better (size wise) with where it will go. Being $400 cheaper is a plus as well. I want to buy from Amazon as they have the interest free financing and the lowest price on the extended warranties. But I am not finding any 60F5300's sold by Amazon, only from other companies that sell on Amazon, however that works.
Size matters, bigger is better. In fact now having the 64", I hope down the road my next TV will be 75" or so...
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I only considered the H5000 since 64" was my minimum size but its just a great display. No way to argue it. Its the best blind buy, "lets give it a try" purchase Ive ever made. Completely sight-unseen. The closest set I could actually see in person was a 51" 5300.

Do you remember if you liked the 51" 5300? They are still at BB for $550, I keep thinking I should get one for one of the bedrooms while they are still available. They don't have them on display so I can't see it, but they are still selling until their stock is gone. I keep hoping they will mark down lower since I assume they would want to get rid of their stock.
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Do you remember if you liked the 51" 5300? They are still at BB for $550, I keep thinking I should get one for one of the bedrooms while they are still available. They don't have them on display so I can't see it, but they are still selling until their stock is gone. I keep hoping they will mark down lower since I assume they would want to get rid of their stock.
Honestly - it looked fine to me. The store lighting and all that obviously degrades the PQ but I know how that works so I was able to look past it. I dont think you'd have any regrets getting one. Not at that great price either

I hear ya on wating for the magic price drop but then you do risk them selling out and then you dont get one. Even with the H5000, I was hoping to wait until they got to $1000 bucks or whatever but for a few hundred dollars it wouldnt have mattered. Id have been FUMING if I missed out on the H5000 for a lousy couple hundred bucks. Just saying, if you want one(a 5300), snag one....

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Honestly - it looked fine to me. The store lighting and all that obviously degrades the PQ but I know how that works so I was able to look past it. I dont think you'd have any regrets getting one. Not at that great price either

I hear ya on wating for the magic price drop but then you do risk them selling out and then you dont get one. Even with the H5000, I was hoping to wait until they got to $1000 bucks or whatever but for a few hundred dollars it wouldnt have mattered. Id have been FUMING if I missed out on the H5000 for a lousy couple hundred bucks. Just saying, if you want one(a 5300), snag one....

They have the 61" on display and it looks incredible believe it or not at BB, it's on an aisle display, kind of out of the way, where it probably isn't as bright as the wall location, it's a pentile display too, but I don't think the 51" is. I think the average buyers are not interested because everyone wants 4K now. They are REALLY pushing the 4K right now. So I'm hoping they put them on sale soon just to get them out, I read the 51" was $400 at BB in December, maybe they will go back down there soon.
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Do you remember if you liked the 51" 5300? They are still at BB for $550, I keep thinking I should get one for one of the bedrooms while they are still available. They don't have them on display so I can't see it, but they are still selling until their stock is gone. I keep hoping they will mark down lower since I assume they would want to get rid of their stock.
I got a 51F5300B for the living room. Two words: get one.

It isn't pentile, but is otherwise practically the same as the H5000. Only, it will look sharper due to the smaller size, yet lack the immersion of the large screen.
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I got a 51F5300B for the living room. Two words: get one.

It isn't pentile, but is otherwise practically the same as the H5000. Only, it will look sharper due to the smaller size, yet lack the immersion of the large screen.
Thanks, I'm going to, I want to wait a little while longer, and hope they mark down lower that $549. I check the BB website every day.
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Thanks, I'm going to, I want to wait a little while longer, and hope they mark down lower that $549. I check the BB website every day.
I doubt it, it's already a steal. I just went in with a mover's coupon from the P.O. and paid $495 + tax.
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I immediately put mine in movie mode and backed off Cell light to 15. Also I avoid black bars and other static images during break in. Of course other tweaks as I found them to help the display. So far I haven't noticed IR.

I also recently upgraded from a Samsung 56" A650 DLP and this 64" plasma is stunning! The DLP wasn't horrible but what a difference in black levels, color and of course size. I'm now in a quandry of what to do with a working 7 year old DLP that I don't have room for but I don't want to give away on Craigslist. For now it stands ready in case the H5000 develops infant mortality! Someone in the family will want it but right now I'm dragging my heels and wondering how I can use it myself as it's been such a good HDTV.
Why not donate the DLP to your local church or a charitable organization? Places like a boys or girls club could certainly use a large TV.
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I considered the 60" F5300 as well, but the pink tint and other issues scared me away. I still think $1200 is a good value for what we're getting from this display, being that it beats all displays under $2500 (and that $2500 display is the F8500). And since the F8500 is only bested by OLED, we're in a pretty exclusive club

I also considered the PN60F5300 but the slight pink tint issues worried me and with my luck I'd get the old A panel. Also I was moving up from 56" and didn't think 60" was enough of a size increase. I thought about getting an open box PN64F5300 to get a standard RGB panel instead of Pentile but figured there was a good chance I'd be buying someone else's problem child.


So I paid the extra $400 for a brand new PN64H5000 and am very pleased. So far no problems other than issues we're all aware of. I also had not seen one in a showroom so was taking a chance on those big funny pixels. Pentile has been a non-issue at 11' and assuming the set doesn't develop a defect the gamble has paid off in spades! (Knock on wood.)


More on the "weaknesses" - personally, I think it's not wise to buy a 64" HDTV if you don't have control of light in the viewing area - and to depend on weak internal speakers for serious audio/video. And if you have an HDMI switching AV receiver then two HDMI inputs on the TV will suffice.

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Why not donate the DLP to your local church or a charitable organization? Places like a boys or girls club could certainly use a large TV.

Thanks, Dan! I actually have thought of donating it to charity. I assume they would accept old technology that still looks good. 1080p and nice color tones. Definitely something for me to look in to.

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Thanks, Dan! I actually have thought of donating it to charity. I assume they would accept old technology that still looks good. 1080p and nice color tones. Definitely something for me to look in to.
I would see if a local school could use it. Especially an elementary school, as they are always lacking funding for nice things.

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I would see if a local school could use it. Especially an elementary school, as they are always lacking funding for nice things.
Great idea, guys. I remember giving some electronics and stuff away like that. I gave some older but fully functional laptops to a local church. Good thinking.
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Went over to Sears to pick up my 64" and had to bail. The box is F'ing huge and didn't fit in our SUV. Guess I need to grab my friend's Tacoma on Sunday when it stops raining.
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Went over to Sears to pick up my 64" and had to bail. The box is F'ing huge and didn't fit in our SUV. Guess I need to grab my friend's Tacoma on Sunday when it stops raining.
Yep, huge freeging box!

Interestingly, I was able to get a few different 65" and even 70" LCDs into my RAV 4 without any trouble whatsoever but I'm sure glad I had the H5000 delivered. Yer gonna need a good sized truck for this puppy!

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I also have a RAV4. You're right - no way I could get that big box in it!

But I'm glad the box is big, mine took a lot of damage yet still protected the H5000 inside.

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Ha - I showed up with a RAV4.

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I also have a RAV4. You're right - no way I could get that big box in it!

But I'm glad the box is big, mine took a lot of damage yet still protected the H5000 inside.
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Went over to Sears to pick up my 64" and had to bail. The box is F'ing huge and didn't fit in our SUV. Guess I need to grab my friend's Tacoma on Sunday when it stops raining.
Just to throw it out there, I would highly recommend having Sears deliver it. A Plasma is no joke in terms of the care that needs to be taken while transporting it. You drive over one nasty pothole and your screen is at risk. At least allow Sears to take responsibility if anything happens. At least they are using a commercial delivery truck. Just my suggestion however.
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Finally, after over a week and a half from date of delivery we got it up on the stand and have been able to watch some limited content. For the first week and a half we had it sitting on the floor back in a corner just running the slides 24/7 so she should be broken in pretty good.

One of the things I notice probably more than anything else compared to our old Sammy plasma is the heat generation is almost non existent. Our old one would warm the room a couple of degrees higher than any other room in the house.

No annoying buzz like many people with other models complain about just a slight one and one has to put their ear up to the set to hear it. Our old Sammy was the same way, but to elaborate just a little during the first year of ownership our old Sammy was quiet then Samsung had to replace the panel and a couple of boards due to a sparkling issue that was present when turned on then went away after it warmed up good. The issue was caused by voltages being off on some of the boards. Needless to say once it was put back together we had a buzzer. What we found was that the many ribbon cables that feed from the boards and attach to the sides of the panel were vibrating against the metal back. Another visit from the tech and some thin felt strips attached the inside of the back resolved it and everything was back to normal and it has run many, many hours since then. I would literally hate to see how many hours it has on it, but I digress.

Size is huge coming from a 50".

Pentile screen is a non issue for us.

Reflective screen is a non issue also as our old one was no different.

Picture quality is great but a little soft, seemed like our old one some details were crisper, not a deal breaker by any means and I have not been able to play with many of the adjustments yet.

Hit the Xbox one and fired up destiny and it looked awesome. Much stronger colors than what I am used to so I might need to dial it back a little bit.

Will post back more as time goes on.

We are in no means disappointed with the purchase so far.
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You can thank the pentile arrangement for that

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Size is huge coming from a 50".

Pentile screen is a non issue for us.

Reflective screen is a non issue also as our old one was no different.

Picture quality is great but a little soft, seemed like our old one some details were crisper, not a deal breaker by any means and I have not been able to play with many of the adjustments yet.

Hit the Xbox one and fired up destiny and it looked awesome. Much stronger colors than what I am used to so I might need to dial it back a little bit.

Will post back more as time goes on.

We are in no means disappointed with the purchase so far.
The "softness" is because of the size. I have the 51" F5300B (almost identical to this display) and it is sharper simply because it's smaller. It's simply a function of having the same number of pixels in a larger vs smaller space.

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Just in case anyone was holding off on buying this great set, Boy do I have a deal for you that you'll have a hard time passing up

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That is an incredible price for one of the best displays out there.
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Just to throw it out there, I would highly recommend having Sears deliver it. A Plasma is no joke in terms of the care that needs to be taken while transporting it. You drive over one nasty pothole and your screen is at risk. At least allow Sears to take responsibility if anything happens. At least they are using a commercial delivery truck. Just my suggestion however.
I agree and that's exactly what I did. Handled perfectly. The box is twice the size of any LCD box of a similar sized TV.

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Finally, after over a week and a half from date of delivery we got it up on the stand and have been able to watch some limited content. For the first week and a half we had it sitting on the floor back in a corner just running the slides 24/7 so she should be broken in pretty good.

One of the things I notice probably more than anything else compared to our old Sammy plasma is the heat generation is almost non existent. Our old one would warm the room a couple of degrees higher than any other room in the house.

No annoying buzz like many people with other models complain about just a slight one and one has to put their ear up to the set to hear it. Our old Sammy was the same way, but to elaborate just a little during the first year of ownership our old Sammy was quiet then Samsung had to replace the panel and a couple of boards due to a sparkling issue that was present when turned on then went away after it warmed up good. The issue was caused by voltages being off on some of the boards. Needless to say once it was put back together we had a buzzer. What we found was that the many ribbon cables that feed from the boards and attach to the sides of the panel were vibrating against the metal back. Another visit from the tech and some thin felt strips attached the inside of the back resolved it and everything was back to normal and it has run many, many hours since then. I would literally hate to see how many hours it has on it, but I digress.

Size is huge coming from a 50".

Pentile screen is a non issue for us.

Reflective screen is a non issue also as our old one was no different.

Picture quality is great but a little soft, seemed like our old one some details were crisper, not a deal breaker by any means and I have not been able to play with many of the adjustments yet.

Hit the Xbox one and fired up destiny and it looked awesome. Much stronger colors than what I am used to so I might need to dial it back a little bit.

Will post back more as time goes on.

We are in no means disappointed with the purchase so far.
Glad to hear you are happy overall. As Soulburner pointed out, the softness is mainly because of the size difference. As the TV breaks in it'll get better and better. And, try some settings tweaks too to fine tune it even more.

Another happy H5000 owner......

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Just in case anyone was holding off on buying this great set, Boy do I have a deal for you that you'll have a hard time passing up

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Free shipping from BuyDig, but the buyer pays for return shipping if the television is damaged or defective upon arrival. I'll pass even at that incredible price.
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