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Big Screen Store is selling the H5000 for $899 for Memorial Day. I desperately need to replace my 9yo Samsung DLP, so I went and checked it out. Way too reflective for my tastes, so I went with a new Samsung SUHD, but if you like this set, seems like a good price.
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Big Screen Store is selling the H5000 for $899 for Memorial Day. I desperately need to replace my 9yo Samsung DLP, so I went and checked it out. Way too reflective for my tastes, so I went with a new Samsung SUHD, but if you like this set, seems like a good price.
It's definitely going to require light control, but it's the best deal on a top quality TV that I've ever seen.
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That's an amazing price and it's amazing they have it in stock! Thanks for the info...

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Big Screen Store is selling the H5000 for $899 for Memorial Day. I desperately need to replace my 9yo Samsung DLP, so I went and checked it out. Way too reflective for my tastes, so I went with a new Samsung SUHD, but if you like this set, seems like a good price.
I'm so jealous. You should buy one and sell on eBay.
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that price is inline with the 60" F5300 that Best Buy had for $699

very similar TVs

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that price is inline with the 60" F5300 that Best Buy had for $699 very similar TVs Warren
Picked mine up 10 days ago for $599 in the NY area.
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Picked mine up 10 days ago for $599 in the NY area.
$599 for a 64H5000 is very good price....

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$599 for a 64H5000 is very good price.... Warren
No, I got the 60" 5300-B. Still happy..........
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It's definitely going to require light control, but it's the best deal on a top quality TV that I've ever seen.
Yeah, it is. Still impressing me months after I bought it. It simply delivers an incredible image and thats what its main purpose is. No bells, whistles, or BS. Just. A. Great. Image. Thank. You.

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I never owned a plasma, but with my viewing angles it will be the only thing to work. Without sacrificing blacks and colors, is this a good set over all? It's the only plasma TV that's available in my area bigger then 55.
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I never owned a plasma, but with my viewing angles it will be the only thing to work. Without sacrificing blacks and colors, is this a good set over all? It's the only plasma TV that's available in my area bigger then 55.
I'm not sure where you are, but if you've found one, get it now!
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I never owned a plasma, but with my viewing angles it will be the only thing to work. Without sacrificing blacks and colors, is this a good set over all? It's the only plasma TV that's available in my area bigger then 55.
The panel has no filtering like higher end models so PQ will suffer with ambient light. But in a light controlled environment you should be quite happy with its PQ.

Also of note, the panel has a pentile display which has a honeycomb look to it if you sit close enough to it.

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I never owned a plasma, but with my viewing angles it will be the only thing to work. Without sacrificing blacks and colors, is this a good set over all? It's the only plasma TV that's available in my area bigger then 55.
The panel has no filtering like higher end models so PQ will suffer with ambient light. But in a light controlled environment you should be quite happy with its PQ.

Also of note, the panel has a pentile display which has a honeycomb look to it if you sit close enough to it.

I think you'll find this review very helpful: HDTVtest

I watch a lot of movies some full screen some with black bars, also we do some gaming about 2-3gours daly. Should I worry about burn ins? And how are the life span of these plasmas?
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Image retention is a thing. I play games on mine. If it has bright HUD elements or things that will be in the same place for long periods of time, mix it up with something else (TV channel, screen wipe) occasionally. Don't go get something to eat and just let it sit there. Not only does it waste energy, but it can lead to burn-in. When I stop for food, that's actually a good time to turn off Eco mode and run the side scrolling feature.
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I never owned a plasma, but with my viewing angles it will be the only thing to work. Without sacrificing blacks and colors, is this a good set over all? It's the only plasma TV that's available in my area bigger then 55.
If you're doing 'serious' viewing, you'll adjust the lights and it shouldn't be a problem. I'm assuming the Sun isn't hitting the TV direct.

If you have a well-lit room and/or lights and do work with the TV on, then you are probably listening to it half the time and watching half the time (which is what I do, with my back to the TV during the day while I am on the PC). For this viewing, reflections aren't a problem.

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When I stop for food, that's actually a good time to turn off Eco mode and run the side scrolling feature.
Haven't used it, how do you activate it ?

If you're going to be taking a sizeable break, you can also turn off the TV and the game will still be frozen, right ?
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Haven't used it, how do you activate it ?

If you're going to be taking a sizeable break, you can also turn off the TV and the game will still be frozen, right ?
Yup, I do that as well. The reason I turn off Eco mode (which I use in a dark room) is to maximize cell light for the scrolling screen wipe so it's most effective.

It's in the setup menu.
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Yup, I do that as well. The reason I turn off Eco mode (which I use in a dark room) is to maximize cell light for the scrolling screen wipe so it's most effective. It's in the setup menu.
Thanks Soul....I'm still under 300 hours since the set is only in it's 4th week. I'm using Orion's Standard setting (with 16:9 for Pixel Shift activation) and haven't even used Dynamic or Movie (still with factory presets there, I don't think I adjusted them since I know I would't use them for a while).

I've fallen asleep a few times while watching some On Demand stuff and I know the programs ended before the TV went off (I always use sleep timer so it's not on until the early-AM if I konk out ). So the OD interface had to be on for 30-60 minutes a few times but when I have woken up the next day I haven't seen any IR or BI. Maybe the TV went off closer to the program ending, the TV resisted as it wasn't long enough for IR/BI, or the Pixel Shift helped.

But so far, lucky.
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I believe there is an inactivity (screen saver?) that could help with that. I'll look when I get home.
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I watch a lot of movies some full screen some with black bars, also we do some gaming about 2-3gours daly. Should I worry about burn ins? And how are the life span of these plasmas?
I'm not into gaming so I'll defer to Soulburner and others who game. I wouldn't worry about bars from movies and you should also be okay watching cable/television channels with logos and sports with scrolling scores at the bottom as long as you don't do it constantly. As the phosphors age the less sensitive the panel is to image retention, so be somewhat diligent during the first 200 hours of viewing. And don't freak out if you do notice a bit of image retention as it's likely it'll go away by just watching other content or with engaging the built-in scroller.

I could look up the advertise number of hours plasmas are suppose to last but who really knows? But suffice to say the lifespan of plasmas are no longer an issue, that should be the least of your concerns. First and foremost is having a light controlled environment with this particular plasma.

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as long as you don't do it constantly.
That's the key. My Mom's 51F5300 had noticeable IR from Fox News in under 2 months.
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I believe there is an inactivity (screen saver?) that could help with that. I'll look when I get home.
For my situation ? If so, please let me know....I thought the Pixel Shift (which lets you set the Time before it kicks in) would be the only thing that kicks in (I'm not even sure what PS does, is the image moving minutely or just individual pixels ?)
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Image retention is a thing. I play games on mine. If it has bright HUD elements or things that will be in the same place for long periods of time, mix it up with something else (TV channel, screen wipe) occasionally. Don't go get something to eat and just let it sit there. Not only does it waste energy, but it can lead to burn-in. When I stop for food, that's actually a good time to turn off Eco mode and run the side scrolling feature.
Samsung and panasonic should've made a button on the remote to activate screen wipe. Would be so much easier and conveniant.
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I could look up the advertise number of hours plasmas are suppose to last but who really knows? But suffice to say the lifespan of plasmas are no longer an issue, that should be the least of your concerns. First and foremost is having a light controlled environment with this particular plasma.
I think the light-controlled environment thing is oversold. Yes, if you are watching a movie or sports you can't have sunlight hitting the TV or the room, or have lights near where you are sitting reflecting glare-wise back on the TV. But that is not normally the case for most of us. You really have to have bad lighting or lots of windows hitting the TV/room (and it can only hit it for a few hours unless you have an all-glass house/room ).

If you're watching news or on a PC (like I am) or walking in-and-out of the room doing stuff (cleaning, watching kids, whatever), you're probably glancing at the TV and not going to see glare splotches anyway.

As for plasma life hours....I got my 5300 to replace my 2006 Philips 720p which I bought used in 2009 with 1800 hours. It was used about 12 hours a week or so before I got it. Then I used it as my main TV and it was used about 80 hours a week for 5 1/2 years. It died with about 22,000 total hours and I STILL might be able to salvage it with some circuit-board adjustments when a friend takes a look at it later this month.
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That's the key. My Mom's 51F5300 had noticeable IR from Fox News in under 2 months.
Really ? Wow, surprised....was it the news scroll at the bottom ? Did she literally not change the channel for hours at a time ?

That's the key...I work from home and I have CNBC on most of the day but I am watching things on the DVR..some ON DEMAND stuff...scanning the news and sports channels, too. No one channel or program is on constantly for more than 20-30 minutes.

On average, I would say I have 4-5 different channels/programs/input sources in any 1 given hour. Some might be for 30 seconds of viewing, but it breaks up the images.
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Just to chime in on the IR concerns: bars during movies, sports channel logos, and mostly everything else shouldn't cause any issues if you are using the TV regularly and changing up content. If you game for hours and hours on end and that's mainly what you do it may not be the best choice. That's being honest.

As for light control, I believe it's somewhat overstated although its fair to say that this TV does NOT perform as well in a brightly lit room as it does in a light controlled or evening environment room. That being said, we watch stuff here and there during the day including football and haven't had it affect our enjoyment. Sure, the contrast is reduced and there is some washout but it's not a deal killer at all. IMO, if it's that bright and sunny out....shut the stupid TV off and go get some sun and fresh air. Why would you watch anything critically in a super bright room anyways?

For evening viewing or what I call "movie time", this set is phenomenal and destroys all those overpriced and over engineered 4K LCD sets or whatever else. For a LOT less money too.

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Thanks for everyone and their feedback, after reading all the comments and experience. From users this set is not for me I do a lot of gaming, and I have kids that will be playing on this TV. So I rather not take the risk of them mis treating the TV.
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You could turn Eco mode on medium, 5 minute screen saver, and enable pixel shift when you aren't using it. A bit of trouble, but it will reduce the chance of it being abused.
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You could turn Eco mode on medium, 5 minute screen saver, and enable pixel shift when you aren't using it. A bit of trouble, but it will reduce the chance of it being abused.

Really, hmm that's a plus. I don't want to buy another TV until 2-3yrs will this TV last that long with proper care?
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