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List of Plasma Sets with No ABL

Hi,

Curious to know a list of old tv's that do not have abl (auto brightness limiter) build into the design.

Of the 3 Panasonic Plasma tv's I have, this is the one that does not have abl.

2006 model Panasonic PX60U

As a hockey fan, curious to know about others.

Thanks.
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They all have built in ABL, just some more than others.
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Yes, they have all built in ABL, but there are differences in max full screen brightness..

As you know a full white picture draws the maximum of power.. And Full HD Model need much more power to achieve the same brightness because of more pixels. The PX60U HD Ready 42inch draws max. 390Watt.. So it is HD Ready and power draw is high = high full screen brightness

If you are searching for a similar super bright Plasma tv, the PX8 U HD Ready Model also has around 100nits fullscreen..

What other Plasma TVs do you own?

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I have

px60 42"
V10 65"
And
ZT60 65"
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I have

px60 42"
V10 65"
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ZT60 65"
Man that concerns me. Im about to pick up a zt60 65" this weekend and while im not a huge brightness fan I much more care about uniformity and black levels I always thought the ZT60 was one of the best in terms of brightness other than the top end samsung.
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Man that concerns me. Im about to pick up a zt60 65" this weekend and while im not a huge brightness fan I much more care about uniformity and black levels I always thought the ZT60 was one of the best in terms of brightness other than the top end samsung.
No, the ZT60 is the dimmest Plasmas you can get.. Not an issue in a dark room..

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No, the ZT60 is the dimmest Plasmas you can get.. Not an issue in a dark room..
Thats interesting. I thought because it was supposed to be better than the VT in heavily light situation room that it would be doing that by being brighter and not just its panel connection difference.
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Thats interesting. I thought because it was supposed to be better than the VT in heavily light situation room that it would be doing that by being brighter and not just its panel connection difference.
The VT has the better black filter, but less light output..

Plasma TVs and heavily light situation is not a good match..

But in the end you have to check it out for yourself, which is easy when you buy second hand..

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The VT has the better black filter, but less light output..

Plasma TVs and heavily light situation is not a good match..

But in the end you have to check it out for yourself, which is easy when you buy second hand..
Every room I have is in almost complete darkness as I feel thats the proper way to enjoy a tv however, reviews seem to make it as if the ZT60 was fairly decent in bright rooms. It's a non issue for me either way it's just nice to hear from someone as it sets a more realistic expectation.
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Every room I have is in almost complete darkness as I feel thats the proper way to enjoy a tv however, reviews seem to make it as if the ZT60 was fairly decent in bright rooms. It's a non issue for me either way it's just nice to hear from someone as it sets a more realistic expectation.
VT and ZT60 are in this shootout, and they talk about the performance of all these panels in bright light.. In Plasma World the ST60, the VT60 and ZT60 all have extremly good black filter..

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Thats interesting. I thought because it was supposed to be better than the VT in heavily light situation room that it would be doing that by being brighter and not just its panel connection difference.

The ZT will be dimmer than the VT due to it's better black filter. I sometimes wish I had it instead of the VT for day viewing because of the panel glow effect. The effect I'm talking about is the gray color you see when the panel is off that all plasmas have. It will have that same look when the panel is on. So my VT has a little glow in the daytime and better blacks in a dark room. The ZT will have less of this glow in the day.
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The ZT will be dimmer than the VT due to it's better black filter. I sometimes wish I had it instead of the VT for day viewing because of the panel glow effect. The effect I'm talking about is the gray color you see when the panel is off that all plasmas have. It will have that same look when the panel is on. So my VT has a little glow in the daytime and better blacks in a dark room. The ZT will have less of this glow in the day.
ZT60's filter is amazing. Makes me wish we saw a ZT70, ZT80, ZT90...
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ZT60's filter is amazing. Makes me wish we saw a ZT70, ZT80, ZT90...
There have been plans that Panasonic would stop developing and improving PDP Panels, but using the same 2013 Panel tech for new 2014 models..

It is really sad that they did not stick to that plan, they could have saved tons of cash in development but still sell Plasma TVs..

:-/

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