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^^^^^ Metra Home Theater is just another mfr/reseller trying to position themselves to get customers once the HDMI 2.1 frenzy hits. There is still so much that is not known (other than the specs) as to when HDMI 2.1 will be universally available, availability of source material, whether or not existing HDMI 2.0a chipsets can be upgraded to fully compliant HDMI 2.1, cable design and length for the 48Gbps bandwidth, etc. I wouldn't get too excited about it yet.

DPL Labs is one source for certification, but they use different protocols for certifying cables than the protocols that HDMI.org has designed and implements thru their ATC (Authorized Testing Center) programs. An ATC certified cable is labeled as Premium High Speed HDMI and comes with a certificate of authenticity.

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[QUOTE=Otto Pylot;51268465]^^^^^ Metra Home Theater is just another mfr/reseller trying to position themselves to get customers once the HDMI 2.1 frenzy hits. There is still so much that is not known (other than the specs) as to when HDMI 2.1 will be universally available, availability of source material, whether or not existing HDMI 2.0a chipsets can be upgraded to fully compliant HDMI 2.1, cable design and length for the 48Gbps bandwidth, etc. I wouldn't get too excited about it yet.

DPL Labs is one source for certification, but they use different protocols for certifying cables than the protocols that HDMI.org has designed and implements thru their ATC (Authorized Testing Center) programs. An ATC certified cable is labeled as Premium High Speed HDMI and comes with a certificate of authenticity.[/QUOTe

hdmi 2.0 a/b devices cannot and will not be upgraded to hdmi 2.1..(at best maybe a few tweaks...as Panasonic have stated that there hdmi 2.0a 4ktvs might.....might be able to upgrade to hdmi 2.1....didnt confirm this.........hdmi 2.1 is hardware based.....=so therefore will not be able to be upgraded via firmware upgrade...big brands like sony, lg ect probably could upgrade there current tvs....but wont simply because thats there next selling point hdmi 2.1 on tvs say from 2018).......the only hope we have is that these new hdmi 2.1 cables.....will allow us to maxiumize the full 4k rgb 4:4:4 @60/120 8/10 bit colour......sure10 bit colour which requires minium of 18gps.....and i have yet to come across any hdmi cable out there that can do 4k rgb 4:4:4 @60 10 bit colou....only possible to do 4k rgb 4:4:4 @60 8 bit......i guess we will just have to wait and see over next few months
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hdmi 2.0 a/b devices cannot and will not be upgraded to hdmi 2.1..(at best maybe a few tweaks...as Panasonic have stated that there hdmi 2.0a 4ktvs might.....might be able to upgrade to hdmi 2.1....didnt confirm this.........hdmi 2.1 is hardware based.....=so therefore will not be able to be upgraded via firmware upgrade...big brands like sony, lg ect probably could upgrade there current tvs....but wont simply because thats there next selling point hdmi 2.1 on tvs say from 2018).......the only hope we have is that these new hdmi 2.1 cables.....will allow us to maxiumize the full 4k rgb 4:4:4 @60/120 8/10 bit colour......sure10 bit colour which requires minium of 18gps.....and i have yet to come across any hdmi cable out there that can do 4k rgb 4:4:4 @60 10 bit colou....only possible to do 4k rgb 4:4:4 @60 8 bit......i guess we will just have to wait and see over next few months
Yep. I had heard that if there are upgrades to HDMI 2.0a, they won't allow for full HDMI 2.1 compatibility so it will be just more of a tease to those who have sets that will allow that. Source material will be another issue like it is now for HDR (even tho that is getting better). The 48Gbps cable will a bigger problem than what we have now for 4k, 4:4:4 @60Hz at lengths over about 20'. The last I read is that the cables will be limited to 2 or 3 meters for full HDMI 2.1 capability. That's fine unless your equipment is more than 10' away from your panel. The cables won't be cheap either. Hopefully, by the time HDMI 2.1 is widely available, along with the complementary devices, the cable issue will be worked out. However, given the mess we are in now with the current video standards and cables, I'm not too hopeful. The video technology is still far ahead of the connection technology.
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My new install will have the projector 15-20ft from the preamp. Is there likely to be enough difference in the chances of passing all of the "highest bandwidth" needs to get the 15ft Monoprice CP (or better cable if recommended) and try to make it work rather than just getting the 20ft and knowing I will have plenty of length?
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My new install will have the projector 15-20ft from the preamp. Is there likely to be enough difference in the chances of passing all of the "highest bandwidth" needs to get the 15ft Monoprice CP (or better cable if recommended) and try to make it work rather than just getting the 20ft and knowing I will have plenty of length?
All the cables that I've been able to get working at 18Gb/s were 20ft or longer so I would just get the 20ft Monoprice as we know that works. If you really want to play safe get the BJC Series-1 25ft as that cable has been verified to pass 18Gb/s at up to 35ft and is probably about as future-proof as you can get right now.
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My new install will have the projector 15-20ft from the preamp. Is there likely to be enough difference in the chances of passing all of the "highest bandwidth" needs to get the 15ft Monoprice CP (or better cable if recommended) and try to make it work rather than just getting the 20ft and knowing I will have plenty of length?
All you can do is try. Some have luck, some don't. If you install in-conduit then if it doesn't work for your particular hardware setup/cable setup, you can easily try another cable. Installing conduit is the only way to "future proof" your cable needs.
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So what's the cheapest 7 meter cable I can get to do full fat 2.0b?
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Cheap is a relative term. For 21' I'd look at a Premium High Speed HDMI cable (ATC certified) from Monoprice. If you have a choice for a thicker gauge cable I'd go for that. Just be mindful of bend radius and stress on the HDMI input if the cable is really thick and stiff. Regardless of cable mfr claims, there isn't any 100% guarantee that a specific cable is going to meet your needs. Connected hardware, cable run, etc also play a part.
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My brain is spinning from all of this information. I need a 75' HDMI cable capable of 4K HDR. I don't care what it costs (within reason, i don't want to spend $1k or something). What is my best option? I purchased this Monoprice SlimRun AV Fiber optic cable and it didn't work. I was having constant handshake issues (I think that is the correct term) in which the picture would work only briefly, would go out, and back in, and then wouldn't work at all. It did this whether I was going through my Onkyo 4k TX RZ710 receiver to my sony 75xbr940d or going directly from my xbox one S to the TV. Is the Celerity fiber optic cable my best bet?

This thread needs a sticky or something with what has worked and has not worked for various people.

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Sticky or not. 1600 posts that states EVERYONE has issues with distances and 4K. Some had + results... some had - results.
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I was having constant handshake issues (I think that is the correct term) in which the picture would work only briefly, would go out, and back in, and then wouldn't work at all.
If you just have handshake issues, you might be able to fix that i you put a HDFury Integral or Linker inbetween.
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My brain is spinning from all of this information. I need a 75' HDMI cable capable of 4K HDR. I don't care what it costs (within reason, i don't want to spend $1k or something). What is my best option? I purchased this Monoprice SlimRun AV Fiber optic cable and it didn't work. I was having constant handshake issues (I think that is the correct term) in which the picture would work only briefly, would go out, and back in, and then wouldn't work at all. It did this whether I was going through my Onkyo 4k TX RZ710 receiver to my sony 75xbr940d or going directly from my xbox one S to the TV. Is the Celerity fiber optic cable my best bet?



This thread needs a sticky or something with what has worked and has not worked for various people.



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Buy the RUIPRO HDMI Fiber on Amazon. I have 4 Celerity cables and they work great, but I'm not crazy about the external USB power.

This new RUIPRO Fiber doesn't need external power. I brought the 30 meter cable (100 feet) for $229 and it works flawless. It passes all 18Gbps signals like 4k/60 4:4:4 8bit and 4k/60 4:2:2 12bit HDR.

It's the only other cable that has worked reliability beside the Celerity cables.

This is cheaper - doesn't need external power as its fiber and copper power all in one cable. And if you have Amazon prime, you can try it and easily return it if it doesn't work for you.

But if this had been available before bought all my Celerity cables, I would have only bought this new one from RUIPRO.


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The only 25' cable I've gotten to work with all signals, from my Denon to my JVC 4k projector, is a BlueRigger in-wall HDMI cable. This is without trying the more expensive fiber options, of course.
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The only 25' cable I've gotten to work with all signals, from my Denon to my JVC 4k projector, is a BlueRigger in-wall HDMI cable. This is without trying the more expensive fiber options, of course.
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The only 25' cable I've gotten to work with all signals, from my Denon to my JVC 4k projector, is a BlueRigger in-wall HDMI cable. This is without trying the more expensive fiber options, of course.
I am running (about a month now) a bluerigger also. It is a 35' cable going from my AVR to my 4K TV. Works absolutely great, gets all the signals, it 18gbps, 60fps frame rate no problem with Billy Lynn. Highly recommend this cable for the money, my 35' was only $24.99 on Amazon. Good Luck to everyone.

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So then, if I want a 60-70' solution, would my best bet beeee.....perhaps 2 30'-35' long HDMI Cables of solid quality with a booster of some sort (HD Fury perhaps) in between?

I will be going from a GTX 1080Ti to a VW365ES. Pretty certain the 365 maxes at 8bit 4:2:0 (in the 10.2Gbps realm). My primary interest is 4k/60.

So far I have tried many many MANY cables of the proper length with zero success. The best so far was: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which manages 4k/30 but up to 4k/60 and no dice. Also tried some shorter cabling with a Blakcbird 4k/60 repeater for fun but (as expected) that didnt work either.

Have not yet tried a Bluerigger or RUIPRO but in the case of the latter, they sure seem to be MIA these days.
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So then, if I want a 60-70' solution, would my best bet beeee.....perhaps 2 30'-35' long HDMI Cables of solid quality with a booster of some sort (HD Fury perhaps) in between?

I will be going from a GTX 1080Ti to a VW365ES. Pretty certain the 365 maxes at 8bit 4:2:0 (in the 10.2Gbps realm). My primary interest is 4k/60.

So far I have tried many many MANY cables of the proper length with zero success. The best so far was: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which manages 4k/30 but up to 4k/60 and no dice. Also tried some shorter cabling with a Blakcbird 4k/60 repeater for fun but (as expected) that didnt work either.

Have not yet tried a Bluerigger or RUIPRO but in the case of the latter, they sure seem to be MIA these days.
The cable you tried doesn't even claim that it'll support 4K60hz or 18gbps bandwith.

Anyway, my "RUIPRO HDMI Fiber Cable 30m Light High Speed Support 18.2 Gbps 4K at 60Hz" will be arriving next week. I'll write result of my trial right after i plugged it. But there are already someone who managed success with this cable. Unfortunately, amazon is out of stock now after everyone read this news.
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So then, if I want a 60-70' solution, would my best bet beeee.....perhaps 2 30'-35' long HDMI Cables of solid quality with a booster of some sort (HD Fury perhaps) in between?

I will be going from a GTX 1080Ti to a VW365ES. Pretty certain the 365 maxes at 8bit 4:2:0 (in the 10.2Gbps realm). My primary interest is 4k/60.

So far I have tried many many MANY cables of the proper length with zero success. The best so far was: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which manages 4k/30 but up to 4k/60 and no dice. Also tried some shorter cabling with a Blakcbird 4k/60 repeater for fun but (as expected) that didnt work either.

Have not yet tried a Bluerigger or RUIPRO but in the case of the latter, they sure seem to be MIA these days.
For a 70' run, your best bet is to use a single cable because anytime you put something between two cables, even a booster of some sorts, you will run the the chance of not being able to obtain a stable 4k, 4:4:4 @60Hz signal. All you can do is try but don't be surprised if it doesn't work to your satisfaction. You may want to consider running solid core CAT-6 (non-CCS and not CAT-6 ethernet patch cable) and then terminate with some sort of active termination such as HDBT. Newer HDMI chipsets are just starting to become available so upgrading the HDBT termination ends will be easy because they are external to the cable so you wouldn't have to mess with the cable at all. A fiber optic installation is another option (like Celerity) if they offer 70' cables with the upgradeable termination points. I'm assuming you are running your cable in-conduit. It's not surprising that the BlueRigger and RUIPRO cables are out of stock based on limited success some have had. Mfr claims must be taken with a big grain of salt.
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So then, if I want a 60-70' solution, would my best bet beeee.....perhaps 2 30'-35' long HDMI Cables of solid quality with a booster of some sort (HD Fury perhaps) in between?

I will be going from a GTX 1080Ti to a VW365ES. Pretty certain the 365 maxes at 8bit 4:2:0 (in the 10.2Gbps realm). My primary interest is 4k/60.

So far I have tried many many MANY cables of the proper length with zero success. The best so far was: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 which manages 4k/30 but up to 4k/60 and no dice. Also tried some shorter cabling with a Blakcbird 4k/60 repeater for fun but (as expected) that didnt work either.

Have not yet tried a Bluerigger or RUIPRO but in the case of the latter, they sure seem to be MIA these days.
I would wait until March 31st when Arrow AV will post their definitive review of HDMI cables that are able to achieve the 18Gbps 4K/60 standard.
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I would wait until March 31st when Arrow AV will post their definitive review of HDMI cables that are able to achieve the 18Gbps 4K/60 standard.
Keep in mind that ARROW-AV's testing will give folks a good idea of what may work but it will not be a definitive guide as to what will work 100% of the time for any HTS setup. Reliable 18Gbps over a distance of about 25' or more will always be an issue at this point in time.
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So to Laserion- I have tried 15+ different cables at this point, was just listing the most recent. Some list 18Gbps, some dont, I figure, try them all!

To Otto- No Conduit...bare studs

To Warnija- I can CERTAINLY wait for that review/breakdown!!!

As for nothing being a sure thing....very aware of that and willing to experiment.
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So to Laserion- I have tried 15+ different cables at this point, was just listing the most recent. Some list 18Gbps, some dont, I figure, try them all!

To Otto- No Conduit...bare studs

To Warnija- I can CERTAINLY wait for that review/breakdown!!!

As for nothing being a sure thing....very aware of that and willing to experiment.
No conduit is going to be a problem, unless the studs are open to you, because cabling requirements are going to be changing, sooner than later, and you will need to swap out cables at some point in time. Conduit is the ONLY way to future proof your cabling. If it's already sheet rocked, good luck.
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No conduit is going to be a problem, unless the studs are open to you, because cabling requirements are going to be changing, sooner than later, and you will need to swap out cables at some point in time. Conduit is the ONLY way to future proof your cabling. If it's already sheet rocked, good luck.
Well, perhaps a very small intro to me. I am after a solid picture, solid sound, (both on a budget many here would think is pocket change) and thats about it. My cabling has run through hooks drilled into the ceiling for the last 20 years. When cabling changes, take one cable down, run a new one, couldn't care less how the room looks as....once the lights are down, it doesn't matter. So swapping cables will always be very, VERY easy.
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Well, perhaps a very small intro to me. I am after a solid picture, solid sound, (both on a budget many here would think is pocket change) and thats about it. My cabling has run through hooks drilled into the ceiling for the last 20 years. When cabling changes, take one cable down, run a new one, couldn't care less how the room looks as....once the lights are down, it doesn't matter. So swapping cables will always be very, VERY easy.
Excellent. Then you're good to go. Finding a 60'-70' cable for 4k, 4:4:4 @60Hz will be your only challenge then so you can rule out installation, as long as you keep the bend radius reasonable.
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4k HDR cable

Has anyone tried the new SlimRun AV HDR cable from Monoprice? They just came out and unlike Monoprice's prior SlimRun optical HDMI cable these say they are 18gbps and that they are capable of doing HDR [email protected], etc.
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Has anyone tried the new SlimRun AV HDR cable from Monoprice? They just came out and unlike Monoprice's prior SlimRun optical HDMI cable these say they are 18gbps and that they are capable of doing HDR [email protected], etc.
Marketing. They are active optical cables which derive their power from the sink end. There is no mention of how they determined the cables are capable of a sustained 18Gbps (no certification or testing mentioned). SlimRun cables have been around for quite some time. Part of the marketing is that the cables are thin, which is good if your run is straight, but there's no guarantee that they will work reliable at a given bend radius. Monoprice has a good return policy so all you can do is try it. They may work with your setup. However, I would lay it out on the floor first before installation and thoroughly test it before you install.
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Has anyone tried the new SlimRun AV HDR cable from Monoprice? They just came out and unlike Monoprice's prior SlimRun optical HDMI cable these say they are 18gbps and that they are capable of doing HDR [email protected], etc.
I tried this exact cable in a 75ft....no Dice. Was great at 1080p though....
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Um...yay!!!!!!!!!!! I bought three of the Ruipro 15m and, they work!!! Tried each from a GTX 1080 to various 4K monitors and have had no trouble with the following settings:

3840x2160/60hz (and lower)
8bpc (10bpc option no longer available when switching out the 6ft DP for the 15m HDMI (RuiPro))
RGB
4:4:4
4:2:2
4:2:0

Gaming at 3840x2160 @ 60fps was no issue. Very, very pleased. Still awaiting the Arrow-AV breakdown as I am quite interested there but just figured I'd report on my Ruipro experience.
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so can any one post a link to Arrow AV's definitive guide to the perfect HDMI cable? It was promised above by 3/31.

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