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Thank you for your input Otto, as always 😉

I can't label the port, and I'm thinking too to have a faulty hdmi port, besides of ARC functionality.
I already contacted the sony support to receive an "official" reply to the issue. Fortunately TV still in warranty.
Ok, I think we had a happy end here, after changing the cables it happened only one time, after changing some HDMI-CEC functions over Bravia Sync menu on my X390E (I disabled everything aside from the main function of HDMI control). The issue is gone.

I'm using KabelDirekt certified premium cables, with the sticker on the package.
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Ok, I think we had a happy end here, after changing the cables it happened only one time, after changing some HDMI-CEC functions over Bravia Sync menu on my X390E (I disabled everything aside from the main function of HDMI control). The issue is gone.

I'm using KabelDirekt certified premium cables, with the sticker on the package.

That's good to hear. Post back if any issues occur. On the Sony, I do believe that HDMI Control is CEC.

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Anyone have some cables from BestBuy that they are certain to work with [email protected], 4:4:4 chroma, and Deep Color? I have Monoprice cables and they are really hit and miss. The ones in the bedroom are working okay with the Apple TV 4K connected to Samsung HW-N960 connected to my LG OLED65C7V when using 4:4:4, but I have the same setup in the living room and the same cables is having difficulties in the living room.

I need cables that are about 6-9 feet. Don't really care about the looks of the cable as long as it's actually working with [email protected], 4:4:4, Deep Colour without issues..
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Anyone have some cables from BestBuy that they are certain to work with [email protected], 4:4:4 chroma, and Deep Color? I have Monoprice cables and they are really hit and miss. The ones in the bedroom are working okay with the Apple TV 4K connected to Samsung HW-N960 connected to my LG OLED65C7V when using 4:4:4, but I have the same setup in the living room and the same cables is having difficulties in the living room.

I need cables that are about 6-9 feet. Don't really care about the looks of the cable as long as it's actually working with [email protected], 4:4:4, Deep Colour without issues..
What Monoprice cables do you have? I only recommend these cables. They are Certified Premium and have worked perfectly for me.
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Question Cable Reccomendations

I am moving in w/my Partner. We will be using for the time being her TCL 55S405 55-Inch 4K Ultra HD Roku Smart LED TV (2017 Model) as the primary display.

We might bring my LG Electronics OLED65C7P 65-Inch 4K later but maybe not while we are at the apartment. (I dont feel like having an apartment complex watch me bring a $3k 65inch TV in. Doubt anything would happen but Im weird about strangers knowing what I own. Love the irony of blasting it to the whole world on the internet though.)

We have a Yamaha RX-V681BL 7.2-Channel receiver

Connections are as follows.

Nintendo Switch
PS4 Pro
Sony UBP-X700 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player
PC w/ 1080Ti (possible upgraded to AMD RX5700 or better in future)

Would like to be able to ARC back the TV and run everything of course at full specs.

Cable runs will all be within 10'-15'
Would like to be able to be Dolby Vision ready

What do you all recommend to be able to get the current and "future proof" most out of the stuff I listed? Plus from whats known about things coming be able to integrate new devices.

She is a Movie buff and still buys disks, so being able to keep up with that is huge. I and the 2 boys are Gamers (Hence the upgrades coming on the PC's)

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
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The ‘stuff’ doesn’t matter too much - the format you want to support is all that matters along with the length of cable required.

Any ‘High Speed’ Certified cable will be ideal at the length indicated.

Future proofing means being able to easily replace whatever cable you install now.

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The ‘stuff’ doesn’t matter too much - the format you want to support is all that matters along with the length of cable required.

Any ‘High Speed’ Certified cable will be ideal at the length indicated.

Future proofing means being able to easily replace whatever cable you install now.

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These cables

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_...7202010a1c0e0b

Say they are rated at 18 Gbps but this data sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Wwc/edit#gid=0

Says for dolby vision its a 24-48 Gbps for 12bit per channel.

Will I actually need to hit that any time soon? Even if I dont is there a recommended cable that can that is relatively affordable (less that $30 each)?

I dont know. Just tell me what to buy lol.
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The cable you link to, like any Certified cable, will be fine for your requirements.

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The cable you link to, like any Certified cable, will be fine for your requirements.

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I go with that then. Thank you!
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I go with that then. Thank you!
Yep. As Joe indicated, any Premium High Speed HDMI cable should work just fine for 4k HDR under 25'. Just make sure the cable has the QR label for authenticity. Be mindful of bend radius because you don't want the cable to be straining on the HDMI input.
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Hello friends which one is best for 50 feet? (15 meter) I need cable for UHD 4K

RUIPRO
https://www.amazon.com/RUIPRO-4K60HZ...96&sr=8-3&th=1

or

WIREWORLD SPHERE HDMI



http://www.emavihifi.com/web_20117_1...roduct_id=9953
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Same reply as in the other thread you asked the question in

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Hello friends which one is best for 50 feet? (15 meter) I need cable for UHD 4K

RUIPRO
https://www.amazon.com/RUIPRO-4K60HZ...96&sr=8-3&th=1

or

WIREWORLD SPHERE HDMI



http://www.emavihifi.com/web_20117_1...roduct_id=9953
I haven't seen your other post but most of the reports here about the Ruipro4k have been very positive. There are other factors that come into play in addition to the cable for a successful connection.

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I could only find cables that performed to a maximum of [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma. And for me the cheapest cable to give me this performance was the 27Gbps cables. Here are my results below:

18Gbps: [email protected] HDR10 4:2:0 Chroma
27Gbps: [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma
48Gbps: [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma

Certified cables can only be certified up to a maximum of 18Gbps because that's the maximum speed that the HDMI.org certification program tests cables up to

Hope this helps someone. Knowing this definitely would have saved me months of trial and error buying 18Gbps cables from various suppliers and wondering why none of them worked as well as I'd thought they should.
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LOL!
I bet a link will soon follow to your website for a "27Gbps" cable.



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LOL!
I bet a link will soon follow to your website for a "27Gbps" cable.
This guy has been busy this morning pushing the magical "27Gbps" cable. I wonder where else he'll pop up.

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Hi again, I've found the answer to my question now.

HDMI 2.0 ports max out at 22Gbps and HDMI 2.0 cables max out at 18Gbps, that's why the 27Gbps and 48Gbps both gave the same improved performance when I tested them.

I knew there must be a simple explanation, but it looks like we'll all have to wait for HDMI 2.1 ports to become common place in our TV's and graphics cards before we can take advantage of all of the increased speeds offered, and by that time I'm sure we'll all be discussing HDMI 2.2 LOL !
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Hi again, I've found the answer to my question now.

HDMI 2.0 ports max out at 22Gbps and HDMI 2.0 cables max out at 18Gbps, that's why the 27Gbps and 48Gbps both gave the same improved performance when I tested them.

I knew there must be a simple explanation, but it looks like we'll all have to wait for HDMI 2.1 ports to become common place in our TV's and graphics cards before we can take advantage of all of the increased speeds offered, and by that time I'm sure we'll all be discussing HDMI 2.2 LOL !
There appears to be a similar discussion by another "poster" on the AVForums site, which is the UK equivalent of AVS. Hmmm.......

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Arrow What Picture to expect from your HDMI Cable

No links here, just accurate information. And that accurate and fully tested information is as follows:

All 18Gbps Certified High Speed HDMI cables were the worst performing cables in my tests, only ever achieving: [email protected] HDR10 4:2:0 Chroma.
All 27Gbps HDMI cables achieved: [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma.
All 48Gbps HDMI cables also achieved: [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma.

Disclaimers:
All of these tests were performed with an equal setup linking a very high performance PC to a high performance OLED TV, and it was only the cable that was changed.
All of these tests were conducted using equipment fitted with HDMI 2.0 ports, so it is highly likley that the 27Gbps and 48Gbps would achieve these higher speeds when used with equipment fitted with HDMI 2.1 ports.

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Arrow 27Gbps Performance Screenshot

And this is a picture of my computer now running at 4K 60Hz HDR12 with 4:2:2 Chroma which it achieves using a cheaper 27Gbps HDMI cable, but it will also achieve this when operated with a 48Gbps cable too


https://ibb.co/7CHh336

Such a shame all HDMI 2.0 ports don't allow speeds past 22Gbps else the 4K 60Hz HDR10 4:4:4 Chroma picture I want would be possible on my screen and that would be EPIC!

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And this is a picture of my computer now running at 4K 60Hz HDR12 with 4:2:2 Chroma which it achieves using a cheaper 27Gbps HDMI cable, but it will also achieve this when operated with a 48Gbps cable too


https://ibb.co/7CHh336

Such a shame all HDMI 2.0 ports don't allow speeds past 22Gbps else the 4K 60Hz HDR10 4:4:4 Chroma picture I want would be possible on my screen and that would be EPIC!
Please post a link to your 27Gbps cable so we can check it out or tell us how 27Gbps was confirmed. What kind of display device are you using, tv or monitor?

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Hello friends which one is best for 50 feet? (15 meter) I need cable for UHD 4K

RUIPRO
https://www.amazon.com/RUIPRO-4K60HZ...96&sr=8-3&th=1

or

WIREWORLD SPHERE HDMI



http://www.emavihifi.com/web_20117_1...roduct_id=9953

Either one if it works. I can guarantee you are going to take it up the GiGi with the Wireworld cable. Overpriced and most likely manufacture in the same factory as all the rest.

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Sorry this is off-topic, but it made made me laugh out loud!
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