I think its worth posting a thread here to help those trying to work their way through the mine field of uhd blu-ray and the challenge that presents to most when comes to finding a hdmi cable over long lengths that does indeed work !
as a note we are talking cable lengths beyond about 7.5m(25ft) / 10m(32/35ft) that most people struggle to find solutions and the kind of cable length most need if running projectors and especially in dedicated rooms and the like where the source player/av processor is remotely situated
first up I want to acknowledge this article from David Vaughn of sound of vision with this article of his, something I found immensely in finding my way through the mine field !
I wanted to post this thread because I honestly dont believe it needs to be a lottery some feel it is.
there are tried and tested solutions that people have found to WORK. yes they actually work.
e.g. in the article above David found the audio quest carbon to work,
though I guess some will be thrown by the huge price of it...
and there are other solutions,
I similarly found my generic 10M hdmi simply no go for uhd blu-ray. this was with samsung uhd blu-ray player, marantz AV8802A processor and feeding a jvc x7000/RS500 projector.
myself living in the part of world I am, just got in touch with a local hdmi company thats been making cables for years at the quality end of the market. they straight off pointed me to their PRS range of hdmi cables which they guaranteed for UHD blu-ray.
this is specifically the one I got,
I wasn't fully convinced however picked up from local retailer, theres a few around me that sell the brand with the confidence that could bring back if didnt. well I tried it for a week to be sure, throwing all could at it... and it indeed worked. it was only after a week of testing I then ran it though walls up and down walls under the house.
and in the months that have followed I can absolutely confirm this works completely faultlessly for uhd blu-ray e.g. with the 13 or so uhd blu-rays I have now sent over the cable with no issue.
are there others ?
want to bring your attendion to this post of
... with a couple of examples there, swest is running the same equipment combination as mine,
so in essence a 22AWG mono price, swest kindly gave use description below,
Standard Speed HDMI Silver-Plated Copper CL2 Rated
(For In-Wall Installation) Cable (22AWG) - 35ft
(Gold Plated Connectors)
as a note he says though described as standard speed it infact is marked on the web site as high speed....
and a couple of pictures
swest also quotes the 35ft mono price cabernet,
note as swest found the first one he had didnt work, similarly with dave vaughns report its believe there was a bad batch of these (or was it with an older chip ?) so make sure if you do get it buy from someone can return to if find it doesnt work.
infact I'd encourage if indeed buying a cable you do indeed buy from someone with a good return / exchange policy
I do hope others will post their successes with other cables, so wiht the take up of uhd blu-ray this becomes as painless as possible with people not struggling with even the first step of getting signal to their display/projector
perhaps if posting here people can list a few things if sharing their experience ,
brand and details of cable, cable length
equipment combination, player, avr/av processor, display/projector.
note this thread is really for uhd blu-ray and not htpcs or any other wierdo image formats and such.
latest testing ... round 2 from David Vaughn - Courtesy of Sound and Vision magazine,
good to see some cheap options there ! that do indeed pass in the long cable category, and also the ones that dont !
<<<<<<<<THREAD UPDATE 2 (7 Jan 2017) >>>>>>>>
its a new year and an update is required...
with the oppo 203 landing on us... I ofcourse like a blind fool decided to get one... ah to my suprise first thing I find is the oppo main menu their engineers in their infinite wisdom have decided to push through at a whisker under hdmi max bandwidth ....of gee you'd think this would have been something they learnt from samsungs debacle...
anyways so now I go from a samsung that works seamlessly to an oppo where I cant even get the menu up.
a week after ownership with some help from forum buddies find a solution i.e. everything on auto with oppo and only change is color space to 4:2:0 which is same format for disc and it works seamlessly across formats(dvd, blu-ray and UHD blu-ray) so all good with my current cable the kordz prs linked to earlier in this thread.
I noted JAV was using a 10m hdmi cable and having luck across both the pana, sammy and pc for 4k so happened to ask what it was ?
turned out a cable from office works of all places !
given their return policy I thought id give it a go.
so came home temporarily ran the cable between the marantz and the jvc. did a full reset of the oppo back to factory settings and gave things a go. well i'll be damned we have an affordable cable that will pass the oppo main menu and with out of box settings. now while i have had the player working pretty seamlessly wiht everything in auto and color space at 4:2:0 with my current cable, with my dual screens the factory settings i.e. full auto on the oppo seem a bit more seamless... anyways something will monitor...
But I should report this comsol 10m cable, described as per below does indeed work for uhd blu-ray,
"This Comsol High Speed HDMI Cable is a great option for anyone who is setting up a Blu-ray, set top box, computer and more. The cable will support 4K Ultra HD with a resolution up to 3840 x 2160.
This cable has male HDMI plugs on both ends.
The cable is 10 m long which lets you set your devices far apart from each other.
The connectors are covered in 24k gold and resist corrosion.
It will support 4K Ultra HD televisions.
The cable has a bandwidth speed of up to 18Gbps.
It contains a high grade oxygen-free 24AWG copper wire.
The cable has 32 channel digital audio which is perfect for Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio."
down sides .. like many 24awg cables this comsol cable is thick and heavy and not so flexible as say the kordz prs linked in the opening post - which with being an active cable gets away with much more slender and flexible cable and dainty plugs
as a note oppo have thankfully in their latest beta firmware also provided a couple of other video output settings in "UHD24" that does indeed now make sure that the main menu doesnt come through in max hdmi bandwidth.
which will make things all the more easier for people trying to pass uhd blu-ray over long cables (i.e. over 7m where premium certified cables at this point do not exist)
<<<<<<<<THREAD UPDATE 3 (5 May 2017) >>>>>>>>
Arrow AV has been very busy with some rigorous testing and below is Part 1 of the report outlining the results ....
TEST REPORTS | HDMI CABLES WHICH PROPERLY AND RELIABLY SUPPORT 18GBPS & HDMI 2.0b