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What's the recommended HDMI cable?

Connection for Samsung NU8000 to Denon AVR-X400H.
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This one:

https://www.musicdirect.com/cables/a...ond-hdmi-cable
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Connection for Samsung NU8000 to Denon AVR-X400H.
Use a "Premium" certified 4k/HDCP 2.2 cable ---> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15430
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Can you recommend something cheaper than that? Too expensive.
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Use a "Premium" certified 4k/HDCP 2.2 cable ---> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15430
This one. Thanks!
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Poor attempt at humor on my part! For most any instance using an HDMI cable less than 30 feet or so, any HDMI cable that is rated for high speed will work. You have discovered Monoprice, which makes some fine cables, or Amazon Basics HDMI will also work well for the budget minded.

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Poor attempt at humor on my part! For most any instance using an HDMI cable less than 30 feet or so, any HDMI cable that is rated for high speed will work. You have discovered Monoprice, which makes some fine cables, or Amazon Basics HDMI will also work well for the budget minded.
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Poor attempt at humor on my part! For most any instance using an HDMI cable less than 30 feet or so, any HDMI cable that is rated for high speed will work. You have discovered Monoprice, which makes some fine cables, or Amazon Basics HDMI will also work well for the budget minded.
That's a little optimistic.

I originally connected a Samsung UBD-K8500 UHP player to a 55" Samsung KS8000 with a 6' Amazon Basics cable. Worked OK. When I inserted a Yamaha TSR-5810 plus a second 6' cable in the chain, it was no go. It worked fine after I upgraded the cables. I used these:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They're uncertified, but claim 27 Gbps. They're also only 1.5m (4.9') long. Cheap, but not as cheap as Amazon Basics.

A couple of years ago, "high speed" meant 10.2 Gbps. "Premium certified" means tested to 18 Gbps. The menu of the K8500 required 17.2 Gbps, so it's more stressful than watching a 24 fps UHD movie.

Things get dicey for cables longer than 25' (8m), which I believe is the max length for certified cables.

If you want to waste time, search the forum for HDMI cable discussions.

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If your cable run is under 25', then any certified high speed HDMI cable should work well. A certified cable will come with a QR code for authenticity when means that is was tested and certified by a Approved Testing Center (ATC) which subscribes to, and follows, standardized certification protocols as designed by HDMI.org.

25' is the maximum certifiable length for ATC certified cables. Any other claim is marketing. Don't get swayed by cleverly worded claims like "up to...", "meets HDMI 2.x specs....", "gold connectors", "oxygen free", etc. It's all meant to sound really good and justify the high cost of some cables. Even the fancy graphs and tables are pretty much meaningless because the human eyes and ears can only perceive so much so some of the claims, while they may be true, are outside of the human range of perception. The cable alone can not improve PQ/AQ. You either get the signal as it is presented by the source or you don't.

If you're going to push 4k HDR over about 20', the most reliable cable so far is a hybrid fiber cable. Just keep in mind that no one cable is going to be 100% guaranteed to work in your system because there are other factors involved besides the cable.
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Connection for Samsung NU8000 to Denon AVR-X400H.

Just letting you know that what ever cable you get, until Denon offer the firmware update, you will not like get HDR through the Denon with the new NU8000 Samsung.

I though it was my cables, after looking on here and asking, it didn't seem to matter if it was certified premium HDMI.

tried and tested those too, but to no avail.

people with the new Q9FN and Q8FN here are having the same issue.

Denon is releasing a update in the new week or so... so hopefully that works

Still those premium certified monoprice cables seem to work for people with other issues, so that would be my first choice if they are easy to get.

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pda15 - if you already have some working cables of the required length give those a try before you purchase anything 'New'.

If purchasing New follow the advice above re Certified cables up to 8m - anything longer you will need to let folk know what cable length you require.

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these is cheaper do better job 4k resoluton hdmi cable search B07BB1N9CF only 5 usd now
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i dont go looking for the cheapest pricred hdmi cable out there. My cable budget is is upto 100 usd, anything under that is fine for me. I use audioquest pearl priced around 40 usd at my place, i also have shenzen mealink budget hdmi cables and sony hdmi cables, but i like the jacket and the tight fitting plugs on the pearl.
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Nothing fancy about that cable. If it works, then that's all that matters. The cable is listed as an "HDMI 2.0 cable" which is interesting being as HDMI.org asked cable mfrs years ago to not label their cables with the HDMI hardware version and just label them as Standard HDMI, High Speed HDMI, and Premium High Speed HDMI (certified by HDMI.org). The fact that the cable is listed as an HDMI 2.0 indicates that it's probably a cheap Chinese knock-off cable. The specs given are just the HDMI 2.0 hardware specifications so there's no telling how those have been confirmed and/or verified. At 6', just about any High Speed Cable will work.

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While I have my wall open I would like to run a "Future Proof" HDMI cable. I see that there aren't any HDMI 2.1 cables longer than 8 feet and I need to go at a minimum 15'. Saw some fiber HDMI cables at CES but don't seem to see any on sale anywhere. Suggestions? Thanks.

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While I have my wall open I would like to run a "Future Proof" HDMI cable. I see that there aren't any HDMI 2.1 cables longer than 8 feet and I need to go at a minimum 15'. Saw some fiber HDMI cables at CES but don't seem to see any on sale anywhere. Suggestions? Thanks.
There is no such thing as an HDMI 2.1 cable, regardless of the mfr's description. For runs up to about 20', a Premium High Speed HDMI cable will work just fine for now. For runs over 20', the recommendation is a hybrid fiber cable from Ruipro (Rupro4k). The ONLY way to future proof your cabling is to use a 1.5" - 2.0" conduit with a pull string. Once fully compliant HDMI 2.1 chipsets are common on the newer devices, and there's content that takes advantage of what HDMI 2.1 can carry, then you'll probably be upgrading your cabling again. Using a conduit makes that so much easier and safer because it is easy to fish the cable thru and control bend radius.

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https://www.samsclub.com/p/hdmi-cabl...lp_product_1_1


The similar updated packaging has the HDMI gold certified symbol on it. These often go on sale for half price!
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The similar updated packaging has the HDMI gold certified symbol on it. These often go on sale for half price!
The product description says ATC certified but without the actual QR label on the packaging it's suspicious.

"Oxygen-free copper (OFC) stranded conductor with nitrogen (N2) gas injected dielectric for excellent signal transmission". Marketing at its best

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@Otto ...the newer packaging at Sam's has that QR label which I described as the HDMI Certified gold label ... sorry if that confused you or anyone else!
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@Otto ...the newer packaging at Sam's has that QR label which I described as the HDMI Certified gold label ... sorry if that confused you or anyone else!
Ah! Then you're good to go. Good pricing.
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Hi,

I'd recommend investing in a HDMI cable that has a minimum of 27Gbps speed rating.

This is because the 27Gbps cables provide a better performance than the 18Gbps cables at almost the same price as the Authentic and Certified 18Gbps cables sell for. The 48Gbps cables are obviously faster than the v2.1 cables but they are still very expensive and in all of my testing the 48Gbps cables didn;t ever produce any better results on my 4K OLED gaming setup!!

Maximum achievable picture settings for each speed cable detailed below:

18Gbps: [email protected] HDR10 4:2:0 Chroma
27Gbps: [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma
48Gbps: [email protected] HDR12 4:2:2 Chroma

Hope this helps someone save some money and get the best performing cable for their TV setup

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^^^ you've posted the same thing in two different threads. Please keep your post to one thread as it makes it easier to respond and for folks to search. I responded to your other post.
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^^^ you've posted the same thing in two different threads. .
I may be wrong... I think he may be upping his post count in order to post a link to his website.
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