Greetings Mr. Kludge and everyone! Yes 1.7 did the trick, both of these discs play now and look great!!! Hard to believe that they came up with new download after all this time. Still, this player looks as good as the day I bought and I think it would still be hard to beat. Also want to make mention of the Maxell lens cleaner that you told us about some years past. What a good investment this is. Happy Halloween to all!!!