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Thanks Sunnie.

That HDMI Switch box looks decent.

You should check out monoprice.com, there HDMI switches are top quality and pretty inexpensive.
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will that swtich pass 1080p/24 ? If so, it's just what I am looking for.

It doesn't say exactly, but I learned never to assume.

The ones at monoprice.com will, as well as lossless audio codecs.
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Thanks Dustin.

I thought they all supported 1080p, 24 and lossless audio if they supported HDMI 1.3a/b?
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I don't believe the refresh rate (frames) has anything to do with an HDMI splitter. It passes 1080P and all of the audio codecs. And...the quality is there, along with value. Hey, if you find one of equal quality at a lower price...then buy it. BTW, it has a cool blue lite too! Ha!
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HEY LG -->

Since Blu-Ray has now won the format war, how about providing AVCHD support as well, since most other (inferior) Blu-Ray players support this format now and have for some time? Anyone else interested, chime in.
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Liking the Tellytubbies doesn't make you gay

I said that because I've compared myself to the purple Twinky-Winky and he is the gay one!

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HDi yes, BD Live no. BD Live is part of the Profile 2.0 spec. and the BH200 is currently still Profile 1.0, let alone Profile 1.1.There aren't any BD Live BDs anyway. Thanks for the lengthy post btw.

Thanks for the answer!


To reply my previous post, I've done some extended testing this week-end and I can state the following:

-DTS-HD-MA play as plain DTS thru SPDIF-Primary pass-thru mode (it pick the DTS-Core I guess)
-SPDIF DTS Re-encode mode definitly plays at a lower volume gain but allow PiP-Menu sounds; but allow a better CODEC downmix quality is good and allow DTS 96/24 if receiver support it (like DD+ to DTS instead of DD)
-PQ from HD titles is definitly better with HDMI vs components (downscale at 720p in my case)
-Upscale PQ from SD-DVD to 720p thru HDMI is "GOOD ENOUGH"... again not as good with my former Toshiba HD-A3 but certainly better than a regular DVD hook-up in components. May once the green line will be removed PQ will increase too?

-2 full BD movies watched and NO VIDEO/AUDIO dropout (Simpsons the movie and Micheal Clayton)

But I've noticed a slight lag (½ sec maybe) in The Simpsons @ 55:30 that I suspected to be the laser layer transition. Similar lag from regular OLD DVD player... What's funny is have never noticed a layer transition it with my Toshiba HD-A3!! Maybe the LG BH200 buffer is not large enough?

Oh and I really like the USB port, so convinent to play my MP3 now! (instead of turning on the PC or burning a CD, etc)

Anyway... since a week now, touching wood, NO PROBLEM with my BH200 so far!


And here's some pics and screen capture of the firwware








P.S. Forgot to say it's the first time I get a cleaning clothe with an electronic device!!!
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HEY LG -->

Since Blu-Ray has now won the format war, how about providing AVCHD support as well, since most other (inferior) Blu-Ray players support this format now and have for some time? Anyone else interested, chime in.

My Panasonic also is in that format and from what I've read it is going to be more popular as the camcorders go more to flash memory.
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My Panasonic is a camcorder not a BR player.
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Well, after receiving no genuine responses from my email and not even reading my PM's, I returned the unit today. I will still monitor here and as soon as they fix all the problems, I will be back. I really wanted this unit, but I can't afford to have a doorstop waiting for them. With only a 90 day labor warranty, I didn't want to get stuck paying even more. Best to all and I hope to be an owner again in the future.

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My Panasonic also is in that format and from what I've read it is going to be more popular as the camcorders go more to flash memory.

My Sony camcorder is in that format as well. This is apparently the new format for all HD Camcorders and is here to stay. It is supported by far and away most blu-ray players, but not this one. We hope that will change.
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Well, after receiving no genuine responses from my email and not even reading my PM's, I returned the unit today. I will still monitor here and as soon as they fix all the problems, I will be back. I really wanted this unit, but I can't afford to have a doorstop waiting for them. With only a 90 day labor warranty, I didn't want to get stuck paying even more. Best to all and I hope to be an owner again in the future.

Don't stray too far "Mr. Clarkson" (line from the Matrix?) - I'm sure the LG boys will post again when the most anticipated firmware update of this decade goes live. (BTW - Neil's birthday is next month so don't forget to send him flour.)
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I said that because I've compared myself to the purple Twinky-Winky and he is the gay one!

Really? . A Gay character in a Kids TV show, that's brave.

Thanks for the further lengthy reply/info. I see yours also has a build date of January but the firmware is from November.

I wonder why North American isn't also getting the newer February firmware?
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It's just conjecture that he's gay, no confirmations.
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Well, after receiving no genuine responses from my email and not even reading my PM's, I returned the unit today. I will still monitor here and as soon as they fix all the problems, I will be back. I really wanted this unit, but I can't afford to have a doorstop waiting for them. With only a 90 day labor warranty, I didn't want to get stuck paying even more. Best to all and I hope to be an owner again in the future.

After I called LG, they took my serial number and informed me that if this upcoming revision does not correct my problems, I will be elgible under warranty even pass my 3-26-08, 90 days, is up. I have no written proof of this agreement, but that is what I was told by "RICK" from LG.
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I wonder if you could e-mail them asking for a reply, then when they do you'll have it in writing.
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It is pretty amazing that LG was able to bring out a European BH-200 firmware that solves a few problems and struggles so hard to fix all the US BH-200 player issues. I wonder why they don't at least release the firmware that came with the European BH-200.

Two more months of waiting for a new firmware is quite unacceptable. What am I expect to do until then? I can't watch DVDs because of the Green Line bug, I can't watch HD DVDs because of dropouts and I can't watch either HD DVD nor Blu-ray discs because of the missing Dolby True HD 5.1 sound.

What am I going to do with my player until the firmware is finally available? Look at it? Ok it is pretty, yet so far it is nothing more than a very expensive paper weight.
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One reason will be the European firmware will also have to support PAL whereas American DVD/HD Players never support PAL, just NTSC. I doubt this is hardware based but it could be too.

I'm surprised they've not released further American Firmware (now some of the problems seem to be fixed) but the firmware won't be inter-changeable. 95% of DVDs sold in Europe are PAL but there is that 5% that are NTSC, those numbers aren't based on anything specific just my experience of European DVDs.

That and due to HD/NTSC vs. PAL frame rates most SD extras on HD discs are in NTSC no matter what country they're from.

Are there any HD-DVDs with just TrueHD? I think they're all BDs.
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I was watching my Independence Day 5 Star Collection dvd tonight.....man this is the worst for audio drop-outs so far...........seems to have drop-outs at many of the chapter changes too. I had been using toslink to my Yamaha 659 and HDMI to one of the inputs on my Sony KDS-60A2020. I think this is the first time that I have noticed the audio drop-outs when listening through the tv speakers only(HDMI).

I hope LG can fix all of these problems.....I want to keep the unit.
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It would have to be the biggest issue to fix, then the lack of TrueHD Multichannel support, then the Green Line issue.
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I see a new (to me) update on the LG site. It claims to fix the audio drop outs in primary pass through. Firmware version BH02080124R - anybody familiar with this?
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Are there any HD-DVDs with just TrueHD? I think they're all BDs.[/quote]


Troy and Tremors both have Dolby True HD
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Yes but both Troy and Tremors also have some lossy flavor of Dolby Digital (regular/plus).
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I see a new (to me) update on the LG site. It claims to fix the audio drop outs in primary pass through. Firmware version BH02080124R - anybody familiar with this?


LG really needs to get their firmware revisions named properly, after installing your new version will be BH0208314B.

Everyone with audio dropouts if you would install this new version and let us know if this helps any.

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A few questions:

1. I know I asked this before but there are some new people on the thread so...

Are there any Mac users who have downloaded the new firmware? It says the operating system is with Windows/XP, but would that matter with a USB?

2. For those who said they own the Onkyo 605 (as well as anyone else), how do you have the BH200 set up? If your receiver does upconversion, how do you bypass it if you want to use the BH200 for that?

I found a great deal on either some high end speakers so I think I might pull the trigger.

Thanks!
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A new feature that has been added is the ability to download the firmware updates via the ethernet port. After installing the firmware you will need to download the latest driver version which is 0701.

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After I called LG, they took my serial number and informed me that if this upcoming revision does not correct my problems, I will be elgible under warranty even pass my 3-26-08, 90 days, is up. I have no written proof of this agreement, but that is what I was told by "RICK" from LG.

I will be monitoring this thread closely. I really feel the LG can be a great unit and upgradable to the future profiles.

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A new feature that has been added is the ability to download the firmware updates via the ethernet port. After installing the firmware you will need to download the latest driver version which is 0701.


Confirm that the new update allows network updating.
How does one go about getting the 0701 driver? The connection says there are no more updates.
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Confirm that the new update allows network updating.
How does one go about getting the 0701 driver? The connection says there are no more updates.


After installing the new firmware you will have the option under setup/other for updating the firmware. If you need the driver it will ask you if you want to install. Some may not need it depending on the build date. 0700 is the old version, 0701 is the newer driver.

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After installing the new firmware you will have the option under setup/other for updating the firmware. If you need the driver it will ask you if you want to install. Some may not need it depending on the build date. 0700 is the old version, 0701 is the newer driver.

I looked at the LG service site and all I saw were 2 updates listed. Both had the P designation in their listing. Am I missing something. It would be ironic the day after I return the player a new update is issued. Of course before I rebuy, I would want to know if the issues with dropout are fixed.

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After installing the new firmware you will have the option under setup/other for updating the firmware. If you need the driver it will ask you if you want to install. Some may not need it depending on the build date. 0700 is the old version, 0701 is the newer driver.

so..... I can't go in through the new network connection - do I need to try to reinstall the update to get to that screen?
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