Originally Posted by math-geek
You are not bursting my bubble Arnie! The amp has been rebuilt in a world class engineering lab, it measures as good or better than the original specifications, I would accept no less! Funny how you left the "rebuilt" part out of your quotes! I will not fall into the "Troll" game with you nor anyone else!
I see three serious problems with your advice that one run right out and obtain some ancient piece of gear and rebuild it and correct all of the flaws that have accumulated in use.
(1) Running right out and obtaining some ancient (decades-old) piece of gear and rebuilding it to correct all of the flaws that have accumulated in use takes as you have admitted, exceptional resources. Unless you are a skilled technician yourself, it will cost a ton of money to retain the services required. As a hobby or avocation of course this can be a great pastime. But it is not for the general audiophile.
(2) Once you restore that ancient piece of gear to full operational status, unless you have totally rebuilt it, it is inherently more unreliable than new equipment because of all of the ancient parts that you didn't replace.
(3) Once you restore that ancient piece of gear to full operational status unfortunately you have the origional piece of gear with its inherent limitations because it was designed to meet the need of a former age.
BTW, Arnie how many of these 2012 amps do you think will be around in 2037???
All of them, if they are treated as you have treated your ancient integrated amplifier.
As well, you clown
(you can always tell the true men of science by how they express themselves! ;-) )
I have no intentions of selling it, I would pay through the nose to beter it!
Thank you for explaining the source-of-supply problem with your advice. You are basically advising the OP to obtain something that is not obtainable! Furthermore, yor preferences are the very reason why the equipment you recommend is not obtainable! Are you trying to be cruel? ;-)
The OP is not looking for an AVR with bass management. I never read that in his original post!
That is a a very unscientific comment. Just because someone does not articulate at some moment what is these days a common need, does not mean that it is not in his mind, or wouldnot shortly be in his mind as his situation evolves. . Absence of obvious evidence is not evidence of absence!
This amp has been tested to the nth degree and played in my wealthy frieds Mac MA7000, B&W 802D system...It did a fantastic job, maybe a little down on max. power but that was it! His room is all but an anechoic chamber, with very extensive room treatments!
I think that must have been very rewarding for you, but I am pressed to understand how it would apply to the OP, especially since you have already said that he can't possibly obtain this equipment from you.
I will admit that this rebuild was exhaustive and extensive but it was an exercise in what is possible with "OLD" technology!
I think we all can understand the context of that situation, and its few strengths and many weaknesses.
Do not speak to me as if I am an idiot, that will upset me.
I believe that you indicated your mental state when you mentioned something about circus entertainers. ;-)
This amp met and/or exceeded every factory spec. The capacitors, replaced with equivalent models, cost more than most new amps do. Most newer amps are not built like this thing was, end of story!
Seems like a great project for someone with time and money to burn. I suspect that most people would have other priorities.
Come on over to Kalamazoo, MI if you want and we can have a more exhaustive discussion on this topic. If you have better equipment than our mathematicians, physicists, and engineers I would love to see it!
I could do that, as I am currently at my family's summer house just north of New Buffalo, overlooking Lake Michigan which I can see is kinda grey and cloudy right now...
However, given the uneasy emotional state your post evidences. I might think twice about that... Besides, I feel like enjoying the lake.
EWY, PhD Candidate, Mathematics
PS. I apologize to the OP over this, but I will not be attacked for misinformation! I am a scientist, research and understanding is what I do.
I believe I have shown many shortcomings along the lines of science, logic and critical thinking in the post I am replying to. I would humbly recommend that you reconsider your situation before proceeding.