Originally Posted by Tony_Montana
A-S801/PM8005 have none of these extra features, but are they better amps than an RX-A850/SR6010?
More real watts? Less distortion? Better SQ? Maybe reliability cause of less digital electronics?
Unfortunately i can't find any measurements of Integrated Amplifiers.
You are asking a difficult question. I'm not discounting the value of AV Receivers. I'm simply trying to put them into perspective. AVR are feature packed, but those features aren't free. You are paying for them, and if you have a fixed budget, then that devalues each of the many things you get in an AV Receiver.
As I may have pointed out the key to satisfaction is determining what YOU
really like and really need, and focusing on what fills that requirement.
While I certainly see the value of Streaming, given my setup, its proximity, and how I personally use the system, I really don't need streaming at all. Yes, it is nice and if I had it I would probably use it, but it is not in the least a priority for me
, so it doesn't play a part in my decision when buying an amp. But it could have value to others.
If you want to scale back, the Yamaha RN602 Network Receiver ($600)
has Network Streaming, Bluetooth, DAC, 80w/ch, and other features. Perhaps not in the class with the Yamaha AS801
, but you weigh what you want against what you have to spend.
The only thing the Yamaha RN602
does not have is Room EQ
. Again, to some that is a deal breaker, and to those like myself, that is insignificant.
There are not a lot of Stereo Network Receivers on the market, but I predict over the next couple years, more will appear on the scene. AVR/Surround does not dominate the market to the extent that may assume it does. Stereo is gaining ground for those serious about music, and trust me, my Stereo does a fantastic job for movies ... all things considered.
If you spend $900 on the Yamaha AS801
, and add streaming to it, that adds another (roughly)
$500 to the cost. Though there are many, probably the Bluesound Node 2
is a good Hi-Res considerations for Streaming.
It is all about working out your priorities, and your long and short term goals.
For myself, I would never be without a Stereo system. Ideally I would have both; Stereo in one room, and AV/Surround in the Home Theater. But if (financially)
I can only pick one, then I pick Stereo.
Lastly, how much is enough? That is, how much do you really need to be satisfied. Certainly the Marantz SR6010
is fine amp. But it is not the Yamaha AS801 ($900)
or the Rotel RA-1570 ($1600)
or the Parasound Integrated ($2500).
There is a case to be made for an AV Receiver, especially if you have roughly $1000 to spend. Unfortunately those in that camp seem more interested in telling me I'm wrong than in simply making the counter point for AVR. I can't control them, I can just give you my view.
I'm strongly in the Stereo camp, and I've never been afraid to say it. There are also other members of the forum who are perfectly happy to watch movies in Stereo. So, this is not unheard of.
I can't make the decision for you. But I assure you, despite my case for Stereo, if you choose an AVR, I'll be happy if you are happy. That's the goal, not to get that which is best, but to get that which best serves you.