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post #1 of 12 Old 01-13-2017, 04:53 PM - Thread Starter
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Recommend DAC for new system.

I just purchase Jolida Envoy Tube Preamp and VTA ST 120 tube amp (kit) from Bob latino. I also plan to use a laptop that have Flac files I like to play. I have read alot review but this is first USB Dac that I am kinda not sure what to go for, I am possible doing Tidal in future. Here are list on my mind which have alot great review, I wish I can audition some of them local but its not available for me. The list in my price range but Should I go cheap like something like Dragon fly to start out?



IFI MicroIDSD DAC
Oppo Ha-1
<< I like this due to the fact have alibity blutooth if I can stream from iphone
Emotiva XDA
Rotel RDD-1580
Musical Fidelity M1 DAC
JoLida Glass FX Tube DAC III <<stay in tube chain with my system?


P.S. I also have Jolida tube JD-100 level 2 mod. Is it good idea to hook to new Dac or Better off go directly to preamp!.

THanks so much for any input.
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I would suggest you add Schiit Dac's to your list. Their MultiBit Dac's are very nice.

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I noticed you have the Oppo HA-1 in your list. Oppo is about to release their Sonica DAC soon. It does not have an amp built in, like the HA-1 but it does have the updated ES9038 Saber chip and looks like very versital DAC that would allow you to stream Tidal with the available Sonica app.

http://www.oppodigital.com/sonica-dac
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I would suggest the Playback Design Merlot Dac using FPGA rather than any of the Shelf Chips. Andreas Koch which is a well know designer who originally designed the DSD players for Sony many years back if I'm not mistaken Andreas is the guy who made DSD.

I have owned the MSB Platinum Dac, Analog DAC, Lampizator 7 and never regretted selling any of them. The Playback design is not only cheaper but to my ears sounds more Analog and transparent at the same time. It is just a more musical DAC. Mind you lampi dacs are not far behind but the build quality and reliability on those are questionable mines developed a humming noise after a few weeks.
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I will be picking up a JoLida Glass FX Tube DAC III W soon. I have a Mass Fidelity Relay on its way. The mass relay will feed a Jolida 302B in a small system. The Glass FX will feed a SS amp, I wanted to add some tube sound to. I do plan on doing a back to back on one if not both systems to see what i can hear.
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I will be picking up a JoLida Glass FX Tube DAC III W soon. I have a Mass Fidelity Relay on its way. The mass relay will feed a Jolida 302B in a small system. The Glass FX will feed a SS amp, I wanted to add some tube sound to. I do plan on doing a back to back on one if not both systems to see what i can hear.
Emotiva has the Stealth DAC which has gotten some good reviews. I just ordered one to put in my configuration...first Emotiva product for me.

Enjoy the music!

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Emotiva has the Stealth DAC which has gotten some good reviews. I just ordered one to put in my configuration...first Emotiva product for me.

Enjoy the music!

I ended up going in another direction and instead of getting the jolida glass fx picked up a Cambridge CXN as it simplifies the system I'm putting together.

on another note I was cross shopping Emotiva with outlaw and ended up getting an outlaw 5000 to help my receiver for my HT. I was also looking at an XPA but ended up getting a McCormack DNA-225 that will be working with the Cambridge. One of these days i will end up with an Emotiva product!
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I noticed you have the Oppo HA-1 in your list. Oppo is about to release their Sonica DAC soon. It does not have an amp built in, like the HA-1 but it does have the updated ES9038 Saber chip and looks like very versital DAC that would allow you to stream Tidal with the available Sonica app.

http://www.oppodigital.com/sonica-dac
I would take a strong look at the new Oppo. Looks like it will do everything you want at a better price than some of the others.

Have fun with music and HT

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I would take a strong look at the new Oppo. Looks like it will do everything you want at a better price than some of the others.
+1

Supposedly, it's going to be released this month, so not much of a wait left to see (and hear) it in action.

I keep finding myself refreshing the Oppo page to if it's available yet.
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I ended up going in another direction and instead of getting the jolida glass fx picked up a Cambridge CXN as it simplifies the system I'm putting together.

on another note I was cross shopping Emotiva with outlaw and ended up getting an outlaw 5000 to help my receiver for my HT. I was also looking at an XPA but ended up getting a McCormack DNA-225 that will be working with the Cambridge. One of these days i will end up with an Emotiva product!
Cambridge makes nice stuff...enjoy that new streamer/DAC!

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Ive heard good things about the schitt stuff from well respected friends... specially at its price point, but I have not tried it myself.

For me, I need femto quality clocking and naked vishay resistors... thats where the magic lies. Many many players use thde superb ess chipset but it takes more than that for really highend sound. You need muktiple chips for each channel, reference level clocking, and really good resistors.

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For me, I need femto quality clocking and naked vishay resistors... thats where the magic lies.
Magic as in illusion?
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Many many players use thde superb ess chipset but it takes more than that for really highend sound.
What defines highend sound?
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You need muktiple chips for each channel, reference level clocking, and really good resistors.
Why would someone need those?
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