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So in MCACC(because I have a Pioneer), the auto calib gave me certain speaker levels. I changed them to fit my personal preference. Does that mean Auto Surround will use MY speaker levels and Pure Direct will use what MCACC calibrated them to?
Keep in mind in many examples Pure Direct will stop any subwoofer output if the incoming signal is 2ch. In PD mode a subwoofer output is only provided if it arrived from the incoming signal. So Dolby Digital 5.1 gets a sub but 2.0 stereo does not. Again this varies by brand.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there IS no concept of "accounting for personal taste/preference". As art consumers we don't "pick" the level of bass, nor the tint/brightness of a scene's sky, any more than we pick the ending of a novel or Mona Lisa's type of smile. "High fidelity" means "high truthfulness", faithful to the original artist's intent: an unmodified, neutral, accurate copy of the original master, ideally being exact and with no discernable alterations, aka "transparency".
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I prefer using Yamaha YPAO adjusted FLAT mode quite a bit over Pure Direct. It has noticeably better clarity and detail which then helps with soundstage and imaging. Pure Direct sounds good but YPAO FLAT better IMO.

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If you're truly serious about music reproduction, 2-channel is the only path, and big money in speakers is requisite.
Disagree completely. A pair of good speakers crossed to a good pair of subs, properly placed, integrated, and eq'd, along with eq on the speakers below Schroeder frequency, should be superior to two speakers without subs in most cases for sound quality. If you have 3 way speakers, this essentially simply becomes a 4 way speaker system with the driver producing the lowest frequencies more optimally placed for sound quality. Having the low frequency drivers placed in the same position as the others is not optimal. By the same token, we wouldn't put the mid range and tweeters where the subs should optimally be positioned for the best sound quality.
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If you're truly serious about music reproduction, 2-channel is the only path, and big money in speakers is requisite.
Nah, if one is serious about music reproduction multichannel music is the way to go. But unfortunately it is harder and more expensive to place 5 (or more) speakers so most people have to compromise for stereo.


Another factor might be listening habits and that some music is unavailable in multichannel
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I think I've learned that if you're really serious about music it's entirely necessary to become super elitist about one aspect of audio and cling to that view for decades, regardless of changes to audio technology or the world at large.
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NR1605 vs PM8004 2 channel
I'm looking to thin the herd. The 1605 is no match for the 8004 when it comes to stereo listening. I'd like to sell both and buy a new AVR that hopefully has the same 2 channel performance as the 8004. Question is which AVR would excel in that category?

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