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Axpona 2018 Recap

Since I hogged up this space at the beginning of the thread I thought it might be a good idea to use it.

Got to the convention center parking lot around 10:05 and it was already almost full.

We done car shows in the huge lot before, but I never explored inside other than a run for restrooms. First impression is how much larger this space than the previous space where were last the eight years I think. I think this show now has potential to be larger than Munich.

If feels as if there are twice as many rooms and my feet agree.



I thought since it's already getting crowded, I'd better get around to people I know or equipment I really want to hear because it might be too crowded tomorrow.

First stop was Revel to see and hear the new beryllium domed 228. Speaker looks to be the top of the line, and is beautifully finished





Kevin was in the room so we had a good chat. I had my flash drive with me with most of my favorites so right to one of my favorite test cuts the Sheffield, Harry James of Still Harry After All These Years. I also have some video of the speaker so I'll see if I can fend off the YouTube copyright censors by not playing entire cuts



Next stop was room 330 to visit with Elac and hopefully hear the New F6.2, which I have on order.

Heard the Adante stand mounts and thought they sounded fine. The big surprise again is what Andrew had at 1/10th the price of the Adantes and that's the new B5.2s. What a surprise this is at the under $300 price point. One of the most impressive speakers I've heard today at any price. Sounded far far better than what I heard at Best Buy a couple of days ago. I don't understand how he keeps doing this and knocking them out of the park.


























Next room I really wanted to see/hear was the Constellation, Continuum and Martin Logan. Last year I thought this one was the second best sound of the show and the best vinyl playback I've ever heard. This year, no such luck. The speakers, ML 15As, were dead, over damped and lifeless. Pretty certain that this is the room and as I've heard these speakers sound fantastic before. Such are the perils with electrostatics. How well I know.
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Show hasn’t officially started yet, but I’m hanging out in the Goldenear room. I’ve been a bit dismissive of their products in the past, but with the Triton References set to ‘background’ levels they sound mighty sweet. Some cool Prima Luna gear here as well.
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Sandy Gross showed up and turned them up. I take back anything bad I’ve said about Goldenear in the past, these speakers rock.

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Still pre-official open, but rooms are open to wander through. This one is going to be a must-see for Scott - huge Audio Research Corp tube amps, a rack of Audio Research and Aurender gear, and two giant Sonus Faber Aida speakers.

Right now it’s just playing at quiet background levels, I’ll come back to hear it in action. Even at quiet levels though these have a lot of sparkle and are throwing a super wide soundstage.
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More Sonus Faber in the hallway, this time Cremonas with a huge stack of McIntosh gear. They’re playing Farrucas by Pepe Romero - the percussive slaps of either dancers or hands against the guitar are crazily realistic.
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This stuff is just sort of hanging out in a hallway, don’t really know anything about it, and there’s no literature nearby, but it looks expensive, and cool in a steam-punk-y way.
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This stuff is just sort of hanging out in a hallway, don’t really know anything about it, and there’s no literature nearby, but it looks expensive, and cool in a steam-punk-y way.
You got good taste, good sounding gear and very expensive to boot! Hell on the used market it's expensive, but you don't have to drop a crapload on stuff to get good gear!

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These are neat, and something new I’ve never heard of - Thrax speakers (and amps). The speakers are two pieces - the MTM with what look like Seas drivers and a compression driver in the middle (the Lyra) and the bass, called the Bassus, which is a 15” servo-sub rated down to 20hz +/- 2db, with a 1 kilowatt amp. The speakers (tops and bottoms combined) go for $60K/pair.
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Wow - Aurum Cantus - most of us know them for Parts Express ribbon tweeters, but apparently they make full speakers as well, and they sound Ah-mah-zing! Seriously, these things have imaging and soundstage to die for, a nice sweet tonal balance, and look sort of like me ha-grasshoppers with their unique feet. Some Benchmark amps and an Oppo disc player complete the chain.

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Sandy Gross showed up and turned them up. I take back anything bad I’ve said about Goldenear in the past, these speakers rock.
Why have you been dismissive about Goldenear in the past? My only issue has been aesthetics.

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So, Wilson Audio.... I was going to say some not-so nice things, but then they played some of Stravinsky’s Firebird, and that changed everything.

These are monsters. They don’t sound great on the solo piano or acapella vocals they started the demo with, sort of like trying to use a chainsaw to carve a tiny figurine. Put some big orchestral stuff on though, and wow! These have effortless huge dynamics and can slam huge crescendos in your face like it was nothing.

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Baby Wilsons: I actually liked these more than the big brothers. They were playing a lot of smooth jazz, but it sounded nice. Not the greatest soundstage or imaging, but tonally they were pleasing.

This was the first room I’ve been in where they’ve used the turntable. I was surprised how nice the record sounded.
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I demoed the Triton Ones and they really underwhelmed me - Super harsh treble and no midrange. The Triton Ref demo today was night and day different - no harshness, nice sweet full midrange, just beautiful sounding speakers.
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I talked to Kevin for about a half hour or so in the Revel and we listened to some of my stuff such as the sheffield, Harry James. Also listened to new 228s the entire time
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I went back to the Sonus Faber Aida room since they were all set up, they’re probably the prettiest speakers I’ve seen so far, and they have a nice big sound, but surprisingly little bass from such huge cabinets.

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So, there were even baby-er Wilsons hiding in another room, the Sabrinas. They’re also the best of the three IMHO. Everything from a solo Barton violin piece to Linda Ronstadt to Fanfare for the Common Man sounded excellent with great sound stage, imaging, bass extension (seriously, I was trying to find the hidden subwoofer when I heard how deep and powerful the Tympani parts were in Fanfare, but there was no sub), etc. The smallest Wilsons are my favorite Wilsons. Also, I saw Steve Gutenberg, but I was too shy to say hello, this is like AV need celebrity spotting.
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In the Elac room with Andrew. Already heard the Adantes and they're very very nice. Now in here with Andrew and the new 5.2s. Waiting to hear them.
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In the Elac room with Andrew. Already heard the Adantes and they're very very nice. Now in here with Andrew and the new 5.2s. Waiting to hear them.
My Gawd these are fantastic.
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I'm having trouble uploading pic from that tappitalk app I'm back to using the website just as if I was on the desktop.

This venue is much larger than last year which is both a blessing and a where is everything
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Emotiva has their RMC-1 set up with a 9.1.6 surround system, and it’s very very good. They’re using the JVC 4K laser projector for visuals, wow, that’s an impressive piece of equipment, great contrast even in a room with a lot of ambient light.

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The Aurilac people had some Ryan speakers going off of one of their streaming boxes. They’re well-finished, but it sounded like there was a lot of cabinet resonance and the bass was muddy.
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In the Elac room with Andrew. Already heard the Adantes and they're very very nice. Now in here with Andrew and the new 5.2s. Waiting to hear them.
More info and photos please of 5.2s
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