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YouTube has gotten a lot more clever about how it handles copyrighted material now. Instead of cancelling the video and putting a against the account, it often will allow the video to run and send you an email informing you that ads may be ads inserted into your video and that revenue will go to the copyright holder. I assume the copyright holder needs to opt in, but it seems like a lot of songs have that arrangement. I' don't know if there is a way to "pre-check" if a song has the agreement, but it seems like a lot of them have it.
Interesting. Do you happen to know if this is a formal policy they spell out where I can read up on it or is it just a "everyone started noticing it" sort of thing?
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Interesting. Do you happen to know if this is a formal policy they spell out where I can read up on it or is it just a "everyone started noticing it" sort of thing?
I haven't seen anything discussing it, I just discovered it by accident. First with a live cover of a song, and later with usage of the exact original commercial release. I have no idea how you can check to see whether an individual song will be objected to or not. This is the text of the email they send:

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A copyright owner using Content ID claimed some material in your video.

This is just a heads up
Don’t worry. You’re not in trouble and your account standing is not affected by this.

There are either ads running on your video, with the revenue going to the copyright owner, or the copyright owner is receiving stats about your video’s views.

Video title: *****
Copyrighted content: ****
Claimed by: Big Hit Ent.

What's next?
If there are no problems, you don’t need to take any action. You don't need to delete your video.

If something went wrong and the copyright owner or our system made a mistake, we have a dispute process. Only use it if you’re confident you have the rights to use all the content in your video.

Need copyright-safe songs?
When choosing music for your next video, you can avoid copyright-related issues by picking a song from the YouTube Audio Library. We're adding new tracks all the time!
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Thanks. I wish there was a way to test if a video is safe or not. If anyone knows please comment. Thanks.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIMI HENDRIX!



^ I wish I had the skills to make a custom plinth like some people do with the AR-XA.

Have I every been experienced? No, I've never had these construction skills.
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I haven't seen anything discussing it, I just discovered it by accident. First with a live cover of a song, and later with usage of the exact original commercial release. I have no idea how you can check to see whether an individual song will be objected to or not. This is the text of the email they send:
They sure made this more difficult to find. Took me one entire cup of coffee to do so

https://www.youtube.com/music_policies?nv=1

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6364458?hl=en


Still though, there used to be a simple link to check copyright restrictions, but now it seems that only after you post and receive a claim.

Learned that lesson when I posted all of those, look ma, no clicks or pops vinyl vids. Abbey Road, they got me within secs.
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Still though, there used to be a simple link to check copyright restrictions, but now it seems that only after you post and receive a claim.
This link below will allow you to type in any song, and assuming that it finds that particular song, it will spell out the degree to which the song is blocked from being shared/posted to youtube:

https://youtube.com/music_policies
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Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I think nearly everything I'd have on vinyl is indeed on the "do not use" list.
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Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I think nearly everything I'd have on vinyl is indeed on the "do not use" list.
Bummer.
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Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I think nearly everything I'd have on vinyl is indeed on the "do not use" list.
I went back and checked the bunch that I had posted a year or so ago when we were having that 'look ma, no clicks or pops' discussion and they muted the audio on most of what I posted, but the Pink Floyd stayed up and is still up. I do recall seeing an email or something that the vid would be permitted to run, but any ad revenue derived would go to the copyright holders.

Lets see if this gets muted?

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Careful Scott. As we've discussed previously, YouTube can ban you from their site entirely if you get too many infringements.

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Careful Scott. As we've discussed previously, YouTube can ban you from their site entirely if you get too many infringements.
I always sorta wondered whether I'd be banned from AVS first or Youtube. Thought it would be quite the contest.

I put up a bunch of those turntable vids that got muted. The Abbey Road got removed immediately. The Pink Floyd LPs that I recorded two or three cuts from for several vids just got me a notification that the vid with sound could stay, but any ad revenue would go the copyright holder.

But no, I've quit posting vids with music entirely after I got a copyright strike over a band playing covers in the distant background at a car show got flagged. That's ridiculous. Enough.

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I wonder if they ban all Happy Birthday cake presentation videos because of the song by the Hill sisters.

Little known original lyrics:

Good morning to you.
Good morning to you.
Good morning dear teacher.
Good morning to you.
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The original lyrics Patty wrote were: "Good morning to you / Good morning to you / Good morning, dear children / Good morning to all."


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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/happy-b...public-domain/



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"EARLY ROOTS

Good Morning to You

Good Morning to You

Good Morning Dear Teacher

Good Morning to All

There is little dispute that in the 1890s the Hill sisters wrote the precursor to Happy Birthday, a song for Patty's kindergarten students they called Good Morning to All and which featured the same melody"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...song-/2475837/

The lyrics differ if you are the teacher or the children it would seem:



https://www.snopes.com/2015/09/22/ha...rthday-to-you/

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Little known original lyrics:

Good morning to you.
Good morning to you.
Good morning dear teacher.
Good morning to you.
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Nuttin would surprise me as it did when that lousy car show band got my vid muted for truly lousy covers.
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Apparently some people who sing it very slowly can fly under the radar:


I'm slightly too young but do some of you remember this when it happened?
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I went back and checked the bunch that I had posted a year or so ago when we were having that 'look ma, no clicks or pops' discussion and they muted the audio on most of what I posted, but the Pink Floyd stayed up and is still up. I do recall seeing an email or something that the vid would be permitted to run, but any ad revenue derived would go to the copyright holders.

Lets see if this gets muted?

https://youtu.be/Q7BDew5T03Q
Scott, what speakers were you using for this video?

Save your money.
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Scott, what speakers were you using for this video?
It was my Elac B6s using the older Pioneer FS52s as stands

Hmm. This vid is also still up and hasn't been muted.

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Maybe recordings c. 1957 aren't in their database?

Certainly anything which never made it to CD won't be in their vaults at all.

In A/V reproduction accuracy, there IS no concept of "accounting for personal taste/preference". As art consumers we don't "pick" the level of bass, nor the tint/brightness of a scene's sky, any more than we pick the ending of a novel or Mona Lisa's type of smile. "High fidelity" means "high truthfulness", faithful to the original artist's intent: an unmodified, neutral, accurate copy of the original master, ideally being exact and with no discernable alterations, aka "transparency".
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Maybe recordings c. 1957 aren't in their database?

Certainly anything which never made it to CD won't be in their vaults at all.
Yep, there's not the youtube auto fill-in of recording info below the vid so they didn't catch this. I have many mono LPs going back to 1947 /48 and I'm sure those wouldn't be caught either.

Chad re-released this on double 45 LP so it is still out there and the content would be the same as far as I know.
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I was just reading that there are now some jerks who are copyrighting submitting to YouTube static noise, white noise, rain sound, digital watch alarm beeps, car alarms, etc. so they can monetize any other people's videos with any of "their" noises. Those Bstrds!

"“YouTube’s Content ID system allows rights holders a way to claim content at scale by finding matches to content they submit to us and giving them an automated way to identify, block, and even make money from uploads of their content. We rely on copyright holders to only claim the content they truly own. The accuracy of our matching systems can only ever be as good as the accuracy of what copyright holders submit. We have review teams that work to catch and prevent inaccurate claims, take action against copyright holders who knowingly or repeatedly cause errors, and we offer a robust dispute process for users who believe their video was claimed in error.”

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I was just reading that there are now some jerks who are copyrighting submitting to YouTube static noise, white noise, rain sound, digital watch alarm beeps, car alarms, etc. so they can monetize any other people's videos with any of "their" noises. Those Bstrds!

"“YouTube’s Content ID system allows rights holders a way to claim content at scale by finding matches to content they submit to us and giving them an automated way to identify, block, and even make money from uploads of their content. We rely on copyright holders to only claim the content they truly own. The accuracy of our matching systems can only ever be as good as the accuracy of what copyright holders submit. We have review teams that work to catch and prevent inaccurate claims, take action against copyright holders who knowingly or repeatedly cause errors, and we offer a robust dispute process for users who believe their video was claimed in error.”
Butt, not this yet?



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It was my Elac B6s using the older Pioneer FS52s as stands

Hmm. This vid is also still up and hasn't been muted.

https://youtu.be/FJNDDRGfbRQ
It sounds great.

Save your money.
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It sounds great.
Recorded on a cellphone. Thanks
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This link below will allow you to type in any song, and assuming that it finds that particular song, it will spell out the degree to which the song is blocked from being shared/posted to youtube:

https://youtube.com/music_policies
Although none of my vinyl seems to qualify, this copyright-free CD I just picked up should make for some good demo material for my possible future YouTube posts:

It ticks all the boxes:
- punchy
- dynamic [huge dynamic range]
- very wide range of instruments
- well mic'd
- wide sound stage
- tight, crisp, detailed
- predominantly acoustic instruments
- several solos at diferent sound stage locations great for analyzing pinpoint imaging localization
- not too long
- well produced without excessive processing
- I like it so I can hear it repeatedly without getting sick of it
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Although none of my vinyl seems to qualify, this copyright-free CD I just picked up should make for some good demo material for my possible future YouTube posts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfqSormNPT4

It ticks all the boxes:
- punchy
- dynamic [huge dynamic range]
- very wide range of instruments
- well mic'd
- wide sound stage
- tight, crisp, detailed
- predominantly acoustic instruments
- several solos at diferent sound stage locations great for analyzing pinpoint imaging localization
- not too long
- well produced without excessive processing
- I like it so I can hear it repeatedly without getting sick of it
That is good or shall I say, great. Was it released on vinyl that you know of? (I don't use LPs anymore, btw. Depth perception too F'up from the cataract and I can't get in to get it fixed until Jan 29th)

Yeah, really all of the reasons I used that Harry James, still Harry after all these years
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Although none of my vinyl seems to qualify, this copyright-free CD I just picked up should make for some good demo material for my possible future YouTube posts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfqSormNPT4

It ticks all the boxes:
- punchy
- dynamic [huge dynamic range]
- very wide range of instruments
- well mic'd
- wide sound stage
- tight, crisp, detailed
- predominantly acoustic instruments
- several solos at diferent sound stage locations great for analyzing pinpoint imaging localization
- not too long
- well produced without excessive processing
- I like it so I can hear it repeatedly without getting sick of it
I posted this over in the Maggotpan thread. What a F'ing fantastic album on dipoles.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...l#post58925134

Will try it on the Fartin Logans in a few.
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As best as I can tell they have some material on vinyl but I have never seen this particular album on vinyl. My CD says on it "not for resale" and "for promotional purposes only" on it. I bought it on ebay.

Hope the eye thing goes well.

That Harry James direct-to-disc LP stuff is considered a legendary, audiophile staple. I used to see them in showrooms all the time.

I'm not particularly into this genre but well recorded music draws you in regardless of the genre.

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As best as I can tell they have some material on vinyl but I have never seen this particular album on vinyl. My CD says on it "not for sale" and "for promotional purposes only" on it. I bought it on ebay.

Hope the eye thing goes well.

That Harry James direct-to-disc LP is considered a legendary, audiophile staple. I used to see it in showrooms all the time.

I'm not particularly into this genre but well recorded music draws you in regardless of the genre.
This is or might be better than the Sheffield Harry James. This is fantastic so thanks for posting as I would have never found it.

You oughta hear this on the cheap Magnepans. This should be required demo material for their dealers. Then when I finish eating I'll see if the ESLs will tear it apart.
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Gotta love that Amazon is charging for something free on the band's website. Either $9.49 or upgrade to Prime Unlimited.
https://www.amazon.com/Live-At-Blues.../dp/B005HAO12Q
I decided to d/l the mp3s from the band website.
https://www.usarmyband.com/blues/liv...ues-alley.html

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