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amps with good built in eq?

are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?


in 300-500 price range.


since there is confusion about what im asking:
a 2 channel amp with BUILT IN EQ


even a receiver that has good front stage amp would be ok
but I prefer a smaller digital 2 ch amp instead that has at least optical input.( preferably a network amp with BT and usb input though)

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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?

I believe anthem makes some.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?
Anthem STR Integrated amp as mentioned is one. Now It can be had for 20% off with a trade up offer. Normal MSRP is about 4400. See their website. The others out there are Lyngdorf. They have two depending on neeed power level. The use Lyngdorf's Room Perfect, which i hear is quite good. Lyngdorf's are about 4300 and 7300 depending on which unit. Arcam has a two channel reciever with both HDMI and room corrction the SR250, at about 3499. At the bottom of the chain is the Yamaha R-N803 which has YPAO correction and is 749 bucks. There aren't many. You can also possibly use a mini-dsp with any integrated or receiver with a tape loop feature.

I went a different route. I almost bought the Lyngdorf TDAI- 2170, but at 4399 (w/HDMI module) I decided against it. I went with a simple 5 channel AVR, and only use two channels. The Anthem MRX-520. Very powerful in two channel mode and a premium AVR with no bells and whistles. No bluetooth, no wi-fi, etc.

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dam that's too baller.
what about in 400-500 used price range or cheaper?
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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?
Maybe a minidsp + umik connected to your current amp to EQ the subs?

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dam that's too baller.
what about in 400-500 used price range or cheaper?
Look on accessories4less. They have the Yamaha for about 200 less. It’s a factory refurb. Many have had good success with accessories4less.
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dam that's too baller.
what about in 400-500 used price range or cheaper?
Yep, accessories4less has the R-N803 for exactly 200 off. 549 bucks.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...eceiver/1.html

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dam that's too baller.
what about in 400-500 used price range or cheaper?
That's the info we needed in the OP.

This might be a better fit: https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...er-solid-state.

Auto EQ and bass management on board.

Ideally, you'd want to be using a pair of reasonably sensitive monitors and a capable sub.

Review: https://www.avhub.com.au/product-rev...-review-469058. (Ignore AU$ price.)

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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?
What issue are you trying to solve? What type of music do you listen to and what are the sources? Do you have an external DAC? What amp do you have currently? What speakers?
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I think you open to more choice if you go separate pre and power. If you are willing to up to about $600, I think you can have some really good choices. Adcom made some really good power amps that are reasonable priced on ebay. Like GFA555, GFA5300 etal.

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What about EQ as requested in the opening post?
And a pre-amp?
And under the OP's budget of $400-500 or cheaper?



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If it is for analog audio, I would get this -> https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-FBQ...gateway&sr=8-3 and spend the remaining $430 on beer. Nothing bothers me more than digitizing analog music for EQ.

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Could be an option, although the OP would still need to allocate that $430 for a integrated amp or receiver (or something) with a tape monitor loop or main in/pre out to use the outboard EQ.



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Could be an option, although the OP would still need to allocate that $430 for a integrated amp or receiver (or something) with a tape monitor loop or main in/pre out to use the outboard EQ.
Tape monitor loops are extremely rare in modern (2019ish) integrated amps and preamps.

Pre out/main in is just rare.
If used gear is allowed there are zillions of options because these features weren't rare in previous decades.

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Fol. [All Analog] 2-Channel 1/3-Octave Band Equalizer is only $99 each with Free Amazon Prime s/h:
https://www.amazon.com/Rockville-REQ.../dp/B01LZL8LGT

Room Equalization of the Sub-Woofer(s) is MUCH more important than L/R Speakers...insert in-between SW-OUT on PreAmp (if it exists) and Powered Sub-Woofer(s)....the second Channel would be used when/if you add a Second Sub-Woofer.

Alternatively, if PreAmp does NOT have SW-OUT Jack, insert in-between Preamp and Amp, using the Equalizers's SW-OUT to drive Powered Sub-Woofer(s).

You should use (FREE) TruRTA and/or (FREE) REW (Room Equalization Wizard) software to measure/plot Room Equalization Response and Manually set each of the Equalizer Filters (independently if two SW's and then combined). You will need a Calibrated Microphone (such as UMIK-1) or [my preference] a Calibrated Sound Pressure Level Meter with Output to PC running aforementioned software. A Lot more info re. Room Equalization, Measurement Techniques and Multiple Sub-Woofers is found here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post54537820

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If it is for analog audio, I would get this -> https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-FBQ...gateway&sr=8-3
I have a very similar unit from them in that same series and it is scary good for how cheap and plasticy it is.
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Could be an option, although the OP would still need to allocate that $430 for a integrated amp or receiver (or something) with a tape monitor loop or main in/pre out to use the outboard EQ.
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Tape monitor loops are extremely rare in modern (2019ish) integrated amps and preamps.

Pre out/main in is just rare.
If used gear is allowed there are zillions of options because these features weren't rare in previous decades.
Agreed. That's why I was asking the OP in post #9 for a lot more background on what he has currently, what problem he is trying to solve, sources, etc. It's almost impossible to provide meaningful suggestions without more info.
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Another equalizer option from Schiit, the Loki. I'm thinking of trying one of these in my headphone rig.

https://www.schiit.com/products/loki

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ok seriously. is this like a worldwide disorder that is spreading around? where people either cant read or understand the question being asked


I mean its rather simple..


"are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?"


im looking for amps that have a good eq built in.




yet people keep suggesting me a separate eq...




when I ask which speakers have the lowest frequency response or lowest bass extension. everyone keeps suggesting me to get subwoofers... NOT WHAT IM ASKING


its like people don't even care what you ask they just by default try to push their personal opinions and preferences when nobody asked them for it...


so im asking can you please. READ THE QUESTION CAREFULLY before answering. or is it too much to ask?
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ok seriously. is this like a worldwide disorder that is spreading around? where people either cant read or understand the question being asked


I mean its rather simple..


"are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?"


im looking for amps that have a good eq built in.




yet people keep suggesting me a separate eq...




when I ask which speakers have the lowest frequency response or lowest bass extension. everyone keeps suggesting me to get subwoofers... NOT WHAT IM ASKING


its like people don't even care what you ask they just by default try to push their personal opinions and preferences when nobody asked them for it...


so im asking can you please. READ THE QUESTION CAREFULLY before answering. or is it too much to ask?

It is too much to ask.

You’re basically saying that you want a high efficiency, ultra low extension subwoofer that uses a small enclosure.

Not gonna happen.

Especially in your budget.

So maybe consider some of these very reasonable options that people have offered out of the kindness in their heart to help you instead of throwing a hissy fit when nothing fits you perfectly.
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Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?


in 300-500 price range.
No.

Lots of AVRs though and you aren't forced to use all 5 channels if you just care about two. This is how I've been using AVRs for decades and it works great for me.
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Just connect two speakers to a 5.1 (or 7.1) Surround AVR and run it in Stereo mode....Boom, Done....high volume means lower costs.....

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Several stereo receivers and integrated amps with various combinations of networking and digital inputs are available for $500 or less. Check out Onkyo, Yamaha, and Harman/Kardon, for example. But no EQ. You would have to settle for bass and treble controls.

The only way I know how to obtain every feature you mentioned, including EQ, is with an AV receiver.
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ok seriously. ...
OK, what's wrong with what I recommended in post 8 then?
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ok seriously. is this like a worldwide disorder that is spreading around? where people either cant read or understand the question being asked


I mean its rather simple..


"are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?"


im looking for amps that have a good eq built in.




yet people keep suggesting me a separate eq...




when I ask which speakers have the lowest frequency response or lowest bass extension. everyone keeps suggesting me to get subwoofers... NOT WHAT IM ASKING


its like people don't even care what you ask they just by default try to push their personal opinions and preferences when nobody asked them for it...


so im asking can you please. READ THE QUESTION CAREFULLY before answering. or is it too much to ask?
???????????

The "disorder" is posting a question with one sentence that contains almost no information. If you had included information about how you were using the amp, then you would have received very specific answers exactly tailored to your exact requirements and budget. Instead you waste our time trying to come up with suggestions based upon ZERO background information. Then you disappear for a week and come back to complain about the responses??????

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when I ask which speakers have the lowest frequency response or lowest bass extension. everyone keeps suggesting me to get subwoofers... NOT WHAT IM ASKING
Nobody suggested you buy a sub -- they were talking about how a sub would be connected to the amp because they don't know what you have. Whether or not you have a sub, or will have a sub in the future, is a key element in recommending an amp.

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yet people keep suggesting me a separate eq...
Again, you did not provide any information about what your data sources are -- even when you were specifically asked. If you have a high-end turntable or an expensive DAC feeding the amp via analog inputs, the last thing you want to do is redigitize that in a cheap amp for digital EQ. Or, maybe you don't care about redigitization, but this is AVS, people are going to care about recommending equipment that will sound the best and be the best value for exactly what you need. If that appears to be "off topic" to you, that's because you didn't provide any information.

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im looking for amps that have a good eq built in.
Are you trying to do full parametric equalization for a difficult room or are you looking for more tone control to tweak the sound????? That's another question specifically asked of you, but no answer. The amp suggestions to support either of those situations could not possibly be more different. Those suggesting amps with bass/treble are assuming the latter, those suggesting AVR's are assuming the former. We don't know because "eq" is a vague term and you told us nothing about what you are using EQ for.

If you want a list of amps with EQ without considering anything else, go click product categories on best buy or crutchfield or amazon and have a field day. Don't waste our time.

PROGRAMMING NOTE: The OP edited the first post yesterday so that it now has some background information -- it was only one sentence for a week. There still is no information about his speaker setup (though it seems safe to infer from his tirade that he does not have a sub).

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OK, what's wrong with what I recommended in post 8 then?


that's kinda what im looking for thanks for suggestion
I was referring to other people who didn't read the question before answering. you obviously understood the question which means most people didn't even read it before answering.
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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq? its a very simple question. im asking exactly what im asking here. no hidden meaning bro. what is so hard to understand about this question . are there any 2 channel amps with a good eq or no... many people understood the question and answered . then theres people who don't read the question or try to understand whats being asked before simply trying to push their own views


are there 2ch amps that have a good eq? what do you think this means bro? how much simpler do I need to make it . I ask which amp has a good eq?



Again, you did not provide any information about what your data sources are
that's irrelevant. I don't need to provide you with any of that info for a simple question like ARE THERE ANY @ CHANNEL AMPS THAT HAVE A GOOD EQ. which simply asks if there are any amplifiers that have a good built in equalizer. not what I have plugged in or where the f did all that even come from...seriously lol




PROGRAMMING NOTE: The OP edited the first post yesterday so that it now has some background information -- it was only one sentence for a week. There still is no information about his speaker setup (though it seems safe to infer from his tirade that he does not have a sub).

again. all that is irrelevant to what im asking.
basically im asking if there are any 2 channel amps that have a good built in EQ.. all you really have to do is reply with a model number if you know one. or just move along if you don't know any.. bam, simple .
literally the most basic question theres absolutely no need to describe my entire fn setup for you to answer this question.
which 2 channel amps have a good eq lol

and yes when I asked which bookshelf speakers have the lowest frequency response or(lowest bass extension) and people started suggesting subs.. like wtf bro how did you even assume I want subs. nowhere in the question I even mentioned subs.
like its a very specific question. WHICH BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS have the lowest frequency response... how can you not understand that, its a very short question. yet I get people suggesting subwoofers then get butthurt because I told them to read the question again..


kinda like you did

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???????????

The "disorder" is posting a question with one sentence that contains almost no information. If you had included information about how you were using the amp, then you would have received very specific answers exactly tailored to your exact requirements and budget. Instead you waste our time trying to come up with suggestions based upon ZERO background information. Then you disappear for a week and come back to complain about the responses??????



Nobody suggested you buy a sub -- they were talking about how a sub would be connected to the amp because they don't know what you have. Whether or not you have a sub, or will have a sub in the future, is a key element in recommending an amp.



Again, you did not provide any information about what your data sources are -- even when you were specifically asked. If you have a high-end turntable or an expensive DAC feeding the amp via analog inputs, the last thing you want to do is redigitize that in a cheap amp for digital EQ. Or, maybe you don't care about redigitization, but this is AVS, people are going to care about recommending equipment that will sound the best and be the best value for exactly what you need. If that appears to be "off topic" to you, that's because you didn't provide any information.



Are you trying to do full parametric equalization for a difficult room or are you looking for more tone control to tweak the sound????? That's another question specifically asked of you, but no answer. The amp suggestions to support either of those situations could not possibly be more different. Those suggesting amps with bass/treble are assuming the latter, those suggesting AVR's are assuming the former. We don't know because "eq" is a vague term and you told us nothing about what you are using EQ for.

If you want a list of amps with EQ without considering anything else, go click product categories on best buy or crutchfield or amazon and have a field day. Don't waste our time.

PROGRAMMING NOTE: The OP edited the first post yesterday so that it now has some background information -- it was only one sentence for a week. There still is no information about his speaker setup (though it seems safe to infer from his tirade that he does not have a sub).
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are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq? its a very simple question. im asking exactly what im asking here. no hidden meaning bro. what is so hard to understand about this question . are there any 2 channel amps with a good eq or no... many people understood the question and answered . then theres people who don't read the question or try to understand whats being asked before simply trying to push their own views
Nobody didn't read the question, your entire post was 8 words, it was impossible to not read it. Simple questions can be great, but simple questions are totally inappropriate when the question being asked has a huge number of potential answers and where the fit for every single answer is 100 percent dependent upon how you will be using it. Having a sub or not having a sub is directly relevant to amp choice, having an external DAC or needing an internal DAC or no DAC requirement at all is extremely relevant to amp choice, what you want to do with equalization is relevant to amp choice, having a turntable or not is directly relevant to amp choice, whether you need streaming or not is directly relevant to amp choice, what speakers and volumes you listen to are relevant to amp choice, etc.

Why would you chastise people for trying to help you when you couldn't even be bothered to share one bit of information that is necessary to provide you with meaningful recommendations?????

Here is a very simple question for you: "What car should I buy?"

What is wrong with the question above?
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Originally Posted by fuzzysig View Post
are there any 2 ch amps that have a good eq?


in 300-500 price range.


since there is confusion about what im asking:
a 2 channel amp with BUILT IN EQ
Probably not. And probably not worth the expense for "used" stuff.
I'd suggest (as other posters) that you look into an AVR and set to "stereo".
(Not worth the bickering. )



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