Originally Posted by Scotth3886
My other broker with whom I work with is getting a system for his young adult son. This is the same guy that I worked with in the audio store 40 - 50 years ago and he's the one who was able to find and get all the foreign pressings that I liked so well back then.
He's looking for a modestly price integrated amp with decent phono stage if possible. Thought of the Parasound Hint 6, Rotel 1592 or even Outlaw 2160.
He'll be using Magnepan LRS so a pretty strong amp is need although he claims not to listen very loudly. I like to see a doubling of power from 8 ohm to 4 ohm although not all manufactures will rate at 4 ohms
Beside the Rotel and Parasound, what else should I suggest he look at.
True, I should know this, but I'm just fried from all these 16 - 18 hours days lately. I guess the light at the end of the tunnel is that I could stop at the end of January and take the rest of the year off. I'm not going to do that because you get stale, but I don't like a big tax bill.
What am I missing here in 2 channel modestly priced integrateds?
Here are the things you need to consider -
You're suggested amp run from about $850 up to $3000. That's quite a range.
You need to look at this as finding an amp that serves a specific purpose. But he must first determine what purposes he needs served.
The Parasound has DAC and Full Bass Management with 160w/ch.
The Rotel has DAC and 200w/ch.
The Outlaw has DAC, Bass Management, limited Streaming, and 120w/ch.
Very different amps, very different features. So, what does your friend actually want and need? Does he need a Digital to Analog Converter? Does he need a Phono Input, and if so, MM, MC, or Both (MM=moving magnets the most common, MC=Moving Coil)
? Does he want or need Network Streaming which would give him access to a near infinite library of music?
The Magnepan speakers are something of a consideration - Magnepan LRS -
More than Raw Amp Power, you more importantly need a Strong Power Supply backing up the Amps. One measure of a Strong Power Supply is the ability to deliver approaching double the power to 4 ohms (relative to 8 ohm power). What this really indicates is the ability to deliver Current. Though not the only measure.
So, let's go back to this -
First consider Features. What features do you want or need?
Then Budget, what are you willing to spend to get those features?
Then Power, but not so much Amp Power, as any 100w/ch amp would get the job done, but rather Power Supply Power and Current delivery capability. This last aspect is a bit technical and difficult to determine with certainty. The 4 ohm Rated Power relative to the 8 ohm Rated Power is one indicators, but you can also check the specs on the Power Supply. It is not uncommon for Stereo Amps to have double the Power Supply Wattage relative to the Rated Wattage of the Amps. For example, a 200w Amp (100w/ch) might have a 300w Power Supply implying that it has considerable reserve.
Personally, I would start with a list of required features. Today, Network Streaming is pretty highly valued, though typically it requires a monthly subscription fee (~$10/mo, Spotify, etc...)
it does give you truly a near infinite library of music at near CD quality. There are actual CD quality Streaming Services that are a bit more (~$20/mo, Tidal, etc...).
Though there are other uses, the typical use for a DAC (digital to analog converter) is to connect the TV to the Stereo for Movie watching.
Obviously if you are into vinyl, you will probably want an Amp with a Phono Equalization Stage built in.
What about more minor things like Tone Controls? Personally I want Tone Controls, though I rarely use them.
Sub-Out, Bass Management, Pre-Amp Out , and so on?
Once you have a list of requirements, you have then narrowed down the list of amp very considerably. Then from that smaller list, you can work out Budget and Power.
Just a few thoughts.