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Upgrading System

I recently upgraded my turntable to a VPI Cliffwood and will be looking to upgrade the rest of my system over the next year. I currently have a Marantz 5005 integrated amp and Klipsch R6201 speakers which are also part of my surround system.

Q1. I was originally thinking about getting an integrated tube amp like a rogue magnum iii. Is that really the best use of $3000?

Q2. Would a solid state/hybrid pre and power amp yield better results?

Q3. Recommendations for pre and power? This is a whole new world for me.

Q4. I was thinking of maybe spending around $1000 on some new bookshelf speakers. Is that going to be an upgrade over cheaper tower speakers? These also have to be used in my surround setup

Q5. Speaker recommendations?

I typically listen to jazz, blues and classic rock.

Thanks in advance.
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I recommend buying a used pair of speakers for $1000, read post #4 in this thread:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/173-2...-under-1k.html


Speakers are the most important part of the system, you want to stretch your money and a used pair is the best bet. I just received my used pair of speakers I bought, even for much higher end, I still buy used. It work out really well.

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Canton Vento's offer a very nice titanium tweeter. Would definitely be worth it for the price.

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...ck-pair/1.html
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I recently upgraded my turntable to a VPI Cliffwood and will be looking to upgrade the rest of my system over the next year. I currently have a Marantz 5005 integrated amp and Klipsch R6201 speakers which are also part of my surround system.

Q1. I was originally thinking about getting an integrated tube amp like a rogue magnum iii. Is that really the best use of $3000?

Q2. Would a solid state/hybrid pre and power amp yield better results?

Q3. Recommendations for pre and power? This is a whole new world for me.

Q4. I was thinking of maybe spending around $1000 on some new bookshelf speakers. Is that going to be an upgrade over cheaper tower speakers? These also have to be used in my surround setup

Q5. Speaker recommendations?

I typically listen to jazz, blues and classic rock.

Thanks in advance.
Best use of three thousand bucks would be to stretch the speaker budget to 2000 or even the whole 3000 and save up later for a better integrated. Upgrading speakers will give you the most sonic bang for the buck. I don't hear a sub mentioned so I'd go with a speaker with a low frequency response. The Canton's mentioned say they go to 27hz, which I find a bit circumspect. Ascendacoustics has the Sierra 2EX which has a -3db point of 38 hz. I'm a fan of their speakers. The 2ex uses a raal ribbon tweeter and a Seas woofer, along with a bamboo cabinet.

3000 bucks would get you in the range of a Salk speaker, Songtower about 2200 or song tower with raal ribbon for about 2900. I have the supercharged song tower and have never been happier with my speaker choice. Ascend also makes a nice tower, but Salk surpasses them, the down side is you have to wait for him to build them, everything with salk is a custom build, but occasionally he'll have one or two on hand to sell. Most of these are towers, so unless you have a place to set the bookshelf speakers you'll need stands, so maybe just go with a tower.

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Here is a nice write up on the Canton Vento. Owner has had Focal Twin Be and Philharmonic BMR's with RAAL. A great speaker for the price is the main attraction. You'd have to spend quite a bit more to equal or get just a bit better.

https://forums.audioholics.com/forum...600-pr.117317/
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Agree with spending more on speakers or buying used. You spent $1000.00 on a turntable, buy speakers that retail for at least $1500.00. Look at those recommended here or Elac. The latest edition of The Absolute Sound magazine tests a number of bookshelf speakers in your price range.

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