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There are a couple of posts over on the processor forum about a new 480i over HDMI Oppo, but nothing over here. A search on AVS and Google turned up nothing. Someone must have some info on this. :)

This could be of some importance for some. I was tempted by the SDI monster again and almost bid on a nicely priced RP82 on ebay, but there is no way I would go SDI again if Oppo is coming out with this. Brand loyalty and all. :D
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I would say it will be worth holding off on SDI plans if you have a processor with an HDMI input. I will say more when I can, but the Oppo folks are ready to drop another bomb!!

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This sounds exactly like the product I've been waiting for... Oppo quality and support, PAL and NTSC, and HDMI.
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Well if that is what your waiting for, then 06 will be a good year for you on several fronts.

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Well if that is what your waiting for, then 06 will be a good year for you on several fronts.
So if I'm understanding correctly, one of these 970H via 480i HDMI paired with one of the new Realta processors like the Vantage-HD would be state-of-the-art for standard def DVD processing, right?
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Barring any unforseen issues, absolutely.

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Well if that is what your waiting for, then 06 will be a good year for you on several fronts.
Kris, is there already info on upcoming models, including any that may contend with Oppo in the budget price-range?

And I sense I'm missing something even cooler about this announcement than simply Oppo + HDMI capability... yes?
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Would this be HDMI 1.2 we are referencing or is it too early for that? Sam are you implying that Oppo would use the Realta in the box, or were you talking about something between the DVD and the 1080p plasma?

Kris, any idea regarding time frame on "the bombing"????
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Would this be HDMI 1.2 we are referencing or is it too early for that? Sam are you implying that Oppo would use the Realta in the box, or were you talking about something between the DVD and the 1080p plasma?
I'm talking about taking the 480i HDMI (v1.1) out of the Oppo and feeding it to something like the Calibre Vantage-HD ($2899) which would use the Realta Teranex chips to scale up to 1080p HDMI.
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For those of you who haven't read the video processing thread, the Oppo 970 has no faroudja, it will only be using the mediatek chip.

Will this player be 480i only or can it do progressive/upconverting with the mediatek chip?

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I think the direction they are going is to market an alternative to an SDI player. There have been plenty of posts asking what is the best 480i player and posts questioning Calibre and Algolith when they weren't going to have an SDI input. A lot of those SDI players are getting long in the tooth. If this new player outputs a pure digital 480i, excellent audio and a sub $200 price point it is a great replacement for them and I can see it killing the 59/79avi market.

I'm in the market for one of the next generation processors and this is exactly the player I want.
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For those of you who haven't read the video processing thread, the Oppo 970 has no faroudja, it will only be using the mediatek chip.

Will this player be 480i only or can it do progressive/upconverting with the mediatek chip?
The MTK 1389C (Revision 3) mainboard can upconvert, as well as support SACD (assuming you purchase the chipset and pay the royalties). The ony used in the OPDV971H is the MTK 1389B (Rev 2), which does not upconvert, but is compatable with the Faroudja chipset.

Upconverting through the MTK chipset is not ass good looking as that of the Faroudja chipset, but is still better than Zoran.
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Well if that is what your waiting for, then 06 will be a good year for you on several fronts.
I know, I'm thinking about a 1080p PDP with a HD-DVD/Blu-ray player. :)
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For those of you who haven't read the video processing thread, the Oppo 970 has no faroudja, it will only be using the mediatek chip.

Will this player be 480i only or can it do progressive/upconverting with the mediatek chip?
480i, 480P, 720P, 1080i HDMI

I'm sure you'll get all the info you need when Oppo delivers a press release. Sorry I can't say more!

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480i, 480P, 720P, 1080i HDMI

I'm sure you'll get all the info you need when Oppo delivers a press release. Sorry I can't say more!
Cool. Now if they offer component upconversion (via secret menu maybe) this player can be recommended for pretty much anyone asking for non-Faroudja/macroblocking dvd player recommendations...

480i hdmi? Oppo
Non-macroblocking upconverting? Oppo
Motion adaptive upconverting (ie non-Zoran)? Oppo
Component upscaling? Oppo

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If the 970 is "under" the 971, don't expect video DACs, i.e. no component output at all. I'm just guessing given some of the statements that have been made about the player. Given the current Oppo is $200, how much "under" can you go? :)

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If the 970 is "under" the 971, don't expect video DACs, i.e. no component output at all. I'm just guessing given some of the statements that have been made about the player. Given the current Oppo is $200, how much "under" can you go? :)

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I'm sure it will have video DACs/component video. There's $30 prog-scan DVD players at WalMart, I'm sure Oppo can offord to squeeze some DACs in there.
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I'm sure it will have video DACs/component video. There's $30 prog-scan DVD players at WalMart, I'm sure Oppo can offord to squeeze some DACs in there.
True. Plus, isn't the component output on the Oppo now less than stellar? (I don't follow it much) If so, it wouldn't be a big deal to put in bargain basement DACs. I was just hoping to see the first "digital" transport/player.

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It has video DACs, and will have 480P via component. No upscaling via component though.

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It has video DACs, and will have 480P via component. No upscaling via component though.

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Ok. Cool. If we keep guessing at features maybe we can get Kris to spill all the beans. :)

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probably not. But it wouldn't be the first time we've had a long thread based on nothing but speculation!!! ;)

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Kind of like the long threads on the Panasonic DVD-S97 prior to its release -- will it have Faroudja or not? ;)

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Or maybe the deafening debate over HD-DVD and Blu-Ray despite neither product being available to the end user and all of the hype being nothing but hype.

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Or maybe the deafening debate over HD-DVD and Blu-Ray despite neither product being available to the end user and all of the hype being nothing but hype.
If all SD-DVDs looked as good as The Chronicles of Riddick that I watched last night, I wouldn't sqeal about HD-DVDs for a looong time ;)
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Riddick is one of my faves too for picture quality. I even have it recorded on HD and the difference isn't nearly as staggering as most comparisons are. Easily one of my top 5 DVDs in terms of picture quality.

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I'm a little confused. Is this the player that Oppo has reported will be released sometime around February 06'? I was ready to pull the trigger on the current 971 with DVI up convert but thought I would hold off to get the newer HDMI they will be releasing shortly. If all I want is to up convert 1080i from the Oppo to a Sony SXRD without another processor should I go ahead and get the Oppo 971 or would I be better off with the newer 06' release with the HDMI output? Thanks
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Riddick is one of my faves too for picture quality. I even have it recorded on HD and the difference isn't nearly as staggering as most comparisons are. Easily one of my top 5 DVDs in terms of picture quality.
Just last night I had "The Fifth Element" recorded on my DVR (not OAR) doing an A/B with the Superbit (UE) DVD. If there was a difference, there wasn't that much. The cropping of the HD recording making things bigger made it tough to compare switching inputs back and forth. I'm thinking the HD broadcast on TNT was just an upconvert, even though when watched with no comparison looked decent.

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I'm a little confused. Is this the player that Oppo has reported will be released sometime around February 06'? I was ready to pull the trigger on the current 971 with DVI up convert but thought I would hold off to get the newer HDMI they will be releasing shortly. If all I want is to up convert 1080i from the Oppo to a Sony SXRD without another processor should I go ahead and get the Oppo 971 or would I be better off with the newer 06' release with the HDMI output? Thanks
The 971 uses Faroudja processing. The 970 takes away the faroudja and only uses the mediatek and seems to be meant for its ability to output 480i via HDMI. One of the biggest appeals to the 971 is it's Faroudja (among other things). The mediatek is a good chip but it's not as good as faroudja.

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I'm a little confused. Is this the player that Oppo has reported will be released sometime around February 06'? I was ready to pull the trigger on the current 971 with DVI up convert but thought I would hold off to get the newer HDMI they will be releasing shortly. If all I want is to up convert 1080i from the Oppo to a Sony SXRD without another processor should I go ahead and get the Oppo 971 or would I be better off with the newer 06' release with the HDMI output? Thanks
OPPO has been relatively forthright about their replacement unit being released in Spring of 2006. They have not mentioned anything about the 970H, as it is a daughter product, and is not yet being discussed openly.
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