Originally Posted by Emaych
I've separated out a line that seemed particularly consequential to me. The phrase "proven all the time" troubles me -- it seems inexact of course by using "all the time" in place of specific instance, but the main reason I'm troubled is the term "proven" seems to want to suggest certainty where any certainty here weighs in the opposite direction. "People claiming differences" suggests to me not that people are liars, but that they actually experienced something differently. That is a very very powerful change -- some might say all the difference.
Yeah it's called placebo, or power of suggestion, which all humans are susceptible to.
I told a doctor one time that if I caught a cold at earliest inception, then bombarded with vitamin C, it seemed to lessen the symptoms over the course of the following days. He then proceded to inform me of studies which he meant to have the effect of dismissing my experience. I responded that it was immaterial to me how the effect I described came about -- I was perfectly happy with activating a positive mindset with "falacy," since the difference remained quite real in any event. So people claiming differences equates to real differences which becomes what is "proved," and not the opposite, that you can prove there were no differences.
You like to mince words, but the relevant fact [to this discussion] remains: There are no remixes involved on these releases you referring to, therefore any differences you experience is solely yours, and none of it can be attributed to the codecs or the mix, since they are the same. So however you wanna justify it is up to you as long as you accept the facts.
Perhaps that is something of an arcane existential exercise, but hearing is believing in my world, so I withhold judgment on how it might sound different to me. I did watch again all the action sequences of CR in pure PCM and did not find it lacking in LFE potency, but "info" on my MARANTZ showed that unlike with DTS MA or DOLBY TRU HD, DSU did not kick in with my back channels, so that seems one reason to favor the Collector's version.
Of course, and as I've said already there are very good reasons why studios use these codecs.
I also looked into other versions of CR, and it is presented in DTS MA as well -- steelbook, I think. At one point or another, I will sample the Collector's version, and will be eagerly hoping to hear an augmented presentation -- that would be a most welcome difference whether "empirically based," or magic -
You can also look for a sunrise on the west while you at it.
hey, it's all magic to me -- spin a plastic disc and you get more colors than the rainbow, and somehow traveling down those speaker wires are all the shades of the audible sonic spectrum, and somehow all that trickery lends itself to an emotional response? -- SORCERY!
No magic just pure science, which is what tech is based on, but I would give you this there is plenty sorcery going on in audio as well, think of it like a Jedi mind trick...........