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The Boss Baby Ultra HD Review



Ralph Potts reviews this DreamWorks Animation comedy about how a new baby's arrival impacts a family, told from the point of view of a delightfully unreliable narrator -- a wildly imaginative 7-year old named Tim.



The Review at a Glance:
(max score: 5 )

Film:

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Audio/UHD Video total rating:
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86



Details:

Studio and Year: 20th Century Fox - 2017
MPAA Rating: PG
Feature running time: 97 minutes
Genre: Family

Disc Format: BD-66
Encoding: HEVC
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 2160p/24

Audio Format(s): English Dolby Atmos/Dolby TrueHD 7.1, English DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio, Spanish/French Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English SDH, Spanish, French
Starring: Alex Baldwin, Lisa Kudrow, Jimmy Kimmel, Tobey Maguire, Steve Buscemi, Miles Bakshi
Directed by: Tom McGrath
Music by: Hans Zimmer and Steve Mazzaro
Written by: Michael McCullers based on the book by Marla Frazee
Region Code: A


Release Date: July 25, 2017


"Cookies are for Closers"


My Take:

Seven-year-old Tim Templeton suddenly finds his share of parental love plummeting when his new baby brother (Alec Baldwin) arrives - wearing a suit and toting a briefcase - and makes it clear to everyone that he's in charge. But when Tim discovers that Boss Baby is on a secret mission, he reluctantly agrees to team up with his pint-sized sibling for an epic adventure that might just change the world!

The Boss Baby features a decent cast, contemporary themes, pop culture references and an elementary plot aimed at younger viewers. It keeps things simple, and builds upon its familial based elements, while adding a bit of adventure. The dialog feels rather familiar, the production elements are excellent, and there are a few charming moments, but there is nothing here that we haven’t seen before, and quite frankly the laughs were too infrequent. Maybe I was simply hoping for more, but The Boss Baby never really grabbed hold tight enough to keep me engaged throughout. I do think that little ones will get more out of it, so in that light, it may have something tangible to offer.


Replay Value:img]https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=109942&d=1210373647[/img]

Parental Guide:

The rating is for some mild rude humor.


AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


UHD Presentation: 94
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


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Dolby Atmos Rating: 78
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Ultra HD Blu-ray has finally been released and eager enthusiasts are ready and willing to see what it has to offer. For those not familiar with the details regarding Ultra HD Blu-ray you can refer to my article that includes some pertinent data on the subject. Here is the link:

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The Boss Baby comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video and lossless Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1 channel sound that has an average bitrate of 4 Mbps.

I wasn’t able to determine whether The Baby Boss was rendered from a 4K or 2K DI for its presentation on Ultra HD Blu-ray. With the limited exposure to Ultra HD either sourced from 2K or 4K Digital Intermediates we are left to judge based upon what we have seen thus far.

In terms of resolution the differences between this and the 1080p version are appreciable as there is a noticeably finer texture in the minutia, especially in the characteristics/physical makeup of the animated characters. This also applied to backgrounds which emphasized depth of field and fine detail. The image has lots of pop as the expanded color gamut and emboldened dynamic range draw out the film’s bright chromatic palate and use of contrast. Whites are gradational and bright and the monochromatic grays, blues and black featured in the sequences with limited lighting, such as those that take place in Francis Francis’ office, or the file room at Puppy Co., are multi-staged and dimensional in appearance.

As good as The Boss Baby looks in 1080p, the Ultra HD rendering, while not heads and shoulders above it, enhances its attributes, making for a visually stimulating and top notch video presentation.

In listening to the Dolby Atmos mix I found it to be of the less aggressive variety, which considering the source material, was a bit disappointing. To be honest, I felt that this soundtrack had the potential for abundant use of elements that would allow for a busier object based mix, especially with respect to atmospherics. In general, its use of audio objects placed above, is limited to occasional panning fills. I would say that where applied it's done to good effect, and created a fair level of immersion that coincides with the onscreen events. As an enthusiast, I appreciate a well-crafted sound mix that draws me into the onscreen elements, regardless of where the sounds are emanating from. This Atmos mix is fair, but leans toward being at the ear level listening plane more than I would have liked. Overall it got the job done, but failed to thoroughly engage me.



Blu-ray Video:


Video: 100
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Audio: 88
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The Boss Baby comes to Blu-ray Disc from 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 33 Mbps and lossless DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio sound that has an average bitrate of 4 Mbps.


This is a reference quality video presentation that boasts vivacious colors that are rich in saturation and bold in depth. Detail is superlative as the video has definitive three-dimensional quality with crisp texture and excellent fine articulation. Contrast is strong and well balanced so that whites are crisp and colors pop without distortion or loss of detail. Blacks are deep with excellent dynamic and enriching gradational highlights. This is a beautiful and pristine quality digital transfer that sparkles on Blu-ray.

The 7.1 Dolby TrueHD (Atmos core – UHD version) and the DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio soundtrack (on the Blu-ray) makes effective use of the surround platform and offers detail rich sonic clarity, and crystalline dialog reproduction. This mix doesn’t bombard you with aggressive surround sound. It applies it when appropriate and combines discretely placed directional cues with supporting ambience that fills the listening area nicely. The front and rear sound field never collide but work in unison to render the soundtrack’s elements. Dynamic range and bass response is appropriate, adding thematic emphasis and resonating punch when called upon. This is a solid audio presentation that mates well with the source material.




Bonus Features:
  • Disc 1: The Boss Baby Ultra HD Blu-ray
    Disc 2: The Boss Baby Blu-ray
    • NEW Mini Adventure: The Boss Baby and Tim’s Treasure Hunt Through Time ¬– Narrated by Wizzie, the magical wizard, join Boss Baby and Tim on their adventure!
    • The Forever Puppy Infomercial – Always playful, always snuggly, and everlastingly cute; The Forever Puppy is destined to win the cuteness competition with babies once and for all.
    • BabyCorp and You – Helpful advice and more for new infants on the job at BabyCorp.
    • Babies vs. Puppies: Who Do YOU Love? – Who has won the hearts of familes once and for all? This “scientific” experiment compares and contrasts factors such as “cuddliness,” “adorability,” and “attention grabbing techniques” used by both demanding competitors.
    • The Boss Baby's Undercover Team – From Staci, the note taker who can’t read, to Jimbo the huge baby who’ll take a suction cup arrow for the Boss, to the triple-threat of the Triplets, Boss Baby dives deeper into this team of cute corporate board members.
    • Cookies are for Closers: Inside BabyCorp – Go behind the scenes with Director Tom McGrath as he introduces us to BabyCorp, a secret organization of infants united for a common goal in
    THE BOSS BABY.
    • The Great Sibling Competition – A fun, kid-friendly and humorous look at the competition among siblings to win the affection of their parents. Explore conversations with the cast and crew on their competitive sibling relationships and get very special insights from Boss Baby himself: Alec Baldwin.
  • Digital HD Copy



Final Thoughts:

The Boss Baby is a mildly entertaining, formulaic, family adventure, that will appeal more to young viewers, while, aside from a few well-placed pop culture references, will leave their parents rather bored. It comes to Blu-ray in this Ultra HD Blu-ray Combo Pack from 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment featuring excellent Ultra HD quality, sparkling high definition video, rewarding lossless surround sound, a fair Dolby Atmos mix, and a fan friendly assortment of extras. The Baby Boss didn’t make for a wholly gratifying family film, but should make for an entertaining evening for the kids, especially on Blu-ray.





Ralph Potts
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Thanks for another great review! Also just wanted to point out it says "Trolls" under the audio description... i'll slot this movie for this weekend with the kids
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Thanks for another great review! Also just wanted to point out it says "Trolls" under the audio description... i'll slot this movie for this weekend with the kids

Greetings,

Thanks guys! Whew! had a problem with the site yesterday which led to all kinds of problems getting this one done. Definitely "The Boss Baby"...


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No worries Ralph.
I think it sounds better the other way..
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Come on Ralph, it wasn't that bad, I found it just the opposite, "but there is nothing here that we haven’t seen before, and quite frankly the laughs and too infrequent" really ???

I thought it was a new enough twist on the stork thing to be original. And the bit where Tom thought how it was gross when his parents told him about the birds and the bees _ it couldn't possibly be that way !!...
I found it very funny, laughing at the many satires through out the story.

Well worth the rent.

Maybe you need to eat some chocolate truffles before watching stuff like this.
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Anyone know how good the 3D version is?
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Thanks for the honest review, Ralph!

With that, I think I'll put this on the 'rental' and/or 'streaming' list. There are too many re-playable animated movies out there to save my money for....

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Come on Ralph, it wasn't that bad, I found it just the opposite, "but there is nothing here that we haven’t seen before, and quite frankly the laughs and too infrequent" really ???

I thought it was a new enough twist on the stork thing to be original. And the bit where Tom thought how it was gross when his parents told him about the birds and the bees _ it couldn't possibly be that way !!...
I found it very funny, laughing at the many satires through out the story.

Well worth the rent.

Maybe you need to eat some chocolate truffles before watching stuff like this.
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Hello,

My wife and I watched it a few days ago in 3D. Minimal ghosting and otherwise very well done in 3D. Recommended.

Thank you for your review Ralph, as always appreciated; although this time I have to say we enjoyed it probably more than you did. Might have been the very good 3D, but we had wonderful 90 minutes. As I said a while ago, with our new LG 65 inch 3D TV even usually mediocre films are a whole lot of fun - as an example R.I.P.D.

Anyways, always enjoying your reviews. With that being said, you might want to add some more 3D reviews?

Cheers and ciao from Italy
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My wife and I watched it a few days ago in 3D. Minimal ghosting and otherwise very well done in 3D. Recommended.

Thank you for your review Ralph, as always appreciated; although this time I have to say we enjoyed it probably more than you did. Might have been the very good 3D, but we had wonderful 90 minutes. As I said a while ago, with our new LG 65 inch 3D TV even usually mediocre films are a whole lot of fun - as an example R.I.P.D.

Anyways, always enjoying your reviews. With that being said, you might want to add some more 3D reviews?

Cheers and ciao from Italy
Greetings,

Thanks for posting your thoughts and I am glad you enjoyed The Boss Baby. I would love to cover more 3D and request them when available. However, with Ultra HD releases becoming more frequent the studios rarely send along both.


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Thanks For The Review Ralph.
Could tell me if there is portuguese tracks in 4k Disc, please.
According to blu-ray.com, it has, but I like to confirm.
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