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Ralph Potts 10-10-2017 10:58 AM

Baby Driver Ultra HD Review
 
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Ralph Potts reviews this fast-paced and stylish thriller from writer director Edgar Wright that stars Ansel Elgort as a young getaway driver who steers to the beat of his own playlist.




Details:

Studio and Year: Sony Pictures - 2017
MPAA Rating: R
Feature running time: 112 minutes
Genre: Thriller/Action

Disc Format: BD-66
Encoding: HEVC @ 4000 NITS
Video Aspect: 2.39:1
Resolution: 2160p/24

Audio Format(s): English Dolby Atmos (Dolby TrueHD 7.1 compatible), English, French, German Portuguese DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio (Blu-ray), Hungarian, Spanish, Turkish Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English, English SDH, French, Spanish, French, Czech, Romanian, Dutch, Arabic, German, Greek Portuguese
Starring: Ansel Elgort, Kevin Spacey, Jon Hamm, Jamie Foxx, Lily James, Elza Gonzalez
Written & Directed by: Edgar Wright
Music by: Steven Price
Region Code: A,B,C


Release Date: October 10, 2017


"All You Need is One Killer Track"


My Take:

Baby – a talented, young getaway driver – relies on the beat of his personal soundtrack to be the best in the game. When he meets the girl of his dreams, Deborah, Baby sees a chance to ditch his criminal life, and make a clean getaway. But after being coerced into working for a crime boss, he must face the music when a doomed heist threatens his life, love and freedom.

I didn’t get the chance to see Baby Driver in the theater, despite hearing nothing but praise from that did. I opted to wait for it to come to home video, hoping the wait would be worth it, and it was. Writer/Director Edgard Wright gets right to the heart of the matter, thrills. Reinforced by a terrific selection of songs, Baby Driver is an adrenaline-fueled film that doesn’t reinvent the wheel, but harnesses its energy with well-shaped archetypes that revolve around the primary character, Baby, played to near perfection by Ansel Elgort, who seizes each moment in his steely portrayal. The supporting players in Kevin Spacey, Jon Hamm, Jamie Foxx, and Elza Gonzalez handle their respective duties with aplomb. Lily James is turning up in more and more films which I am pleased about. Not only is she easy on the eyes, but she can act. I thought that she and Elgort had excellent onscreen chemistry here.

The production elements, stunts, and stunt driving are simply top notch, proving to be as necessary an element as the members of the cast. Baby Driver isn’t a deep film, and doesn’t proport to be. It makes no excuses, reaches out to the audience on a visceral level, and provides full throttle entertainment. I watched it with my wife and we had a blast.


Replay Value:https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...6&d=1210373692


Parental Guide:

The rating is for violence and language throughout.


AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


UHD Presentation: 84
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)






Dolby Atmos Rating: 100
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)





Ultra HD Blu-ray has finally been released and eager enthusiasts are ready and willing to see what it has to offer. For those not familiar with the details regarding Ultra HD Blu-ray you can refer to my article that includes some pertinent data on the subject. Here is the link:

Ultra HD Blu-ray Has Come to AVS Forum Blu-ray Reviews

Baby Driver comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 52 Mbps and lossless Dolby Atmos (Dolby TrueHD 7.1 compatible) sound that has an average bitrate of 4.3 Mbps.

For its presentation in Ultra HD Baby Driver (shot on film) was finished at a 2K Digital Intermediate. From a cinematic perspective, this film was shot with a specific visual aesthetic in mind and that comes through in this presentation. The Ultra HD presentation bests the 1080p version in every respect. Baby Driver is an especially colorful film. Other than several well-chosen moments where sepia tones and softer chromatic variants are used, the film makes for especially eye-catching levels of color. The sequence where Deborah and Baby are at the laundromat is a great example as the depth of the colorful clothing items tumbling around in the dryers is appreciably vivid. This was essentially the case throughout as the presentations variety of earth toned and primary colors benefited from UHD's wider color gamut. Resolution gets a minor boost as well, although I didn’t find the video to be razor sharp. Close-ups tend to offer improved refinement and deeper resolvable texture, while wide-angle shots revealed enough detail and dimension to be gratifying.

There is intermittent use of visual elements that utilize high dynamic range. I wasn't especially impressed with its application. There were instances where bright elements looked vibrant, but not as lifelike as I have seen. Low level sequences had excellent depth of field and emboldened contrast, while slightly obscuring the finest detail in backgrounds. All in all, I think that Baby Driver benefitted from the Ultra HD treatment. It doesn’t compare to the best presentations that I have seen from the format however, it easily trumps the Blu-ray rendering.

In listening to the Dolby Atmos surround mix I found it to be of the active variety that makes steady use of the platform. Its use of audio objects placed above is a mix of atmospherics, discrete effects and music accompaniment. This is done to excellent effect, creating a tangible level of immersion that coincides with the onscreen in an involving and sometime visceral fashion. The opening segment features a robbery/chase that sets the stage for what is to come, as the plethora of head turning effects bring the entire system platform to life. It only gets better later the various sequences featuring fast vehicles, and encounters with the police contain a host of swirling effects, near field pans, pulsating music and ambient extension that rotate around the soundstage, shifting overhead, passing by at ear level and coming directly at the listening position.

It's not just the action that sounds great either. There instances where characters on camera walk into or out of the frame, seemingly moving through the room. I love how the film’s music track is presented via the sound object based platform. On several occasions while watching, I found myself saying aloud (with a smile on my face) this mix sounds great. This is among those entertaining Dolby Atmos presentations that brings everything together in a resplendent blend of room traversing, and well-balanced sound that shows what this format is capable of.

I enjoyed the 5.1 channel track on the Blu-ray, however this Dolby Atmos immersive experience took it to the next level. Period.



Blu-ray Video:


Video: 82
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)





Audio: 94
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)



Baby Driver comes to Blu-ray Disc from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 25 Mbps and lossless DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio sound that has an average bitrate of 3.6 Mbps.

This video presentation offers little in the way of high Gloss, razor sharp imagery, but it seems to represent the film’s elements well. Primary, and secondary colors appear satisfying working well against the settings featured in the story. Complexions are texturally descriptive with lifelike tonality that varies among the cast. Resolution is very good although the film’s inherently softer elements leave some wide-angle shots with smoother lines and average delineation. Close ups and mid-level shots are more revealing of the resolvable detail that draws out subtle textures in the people and objects within the frame. Contrast is on the money and blacks are stable but not overly dynamic in appearance. Other than a few instances where low level noise was visible against dark backgrounds, I saw no distracting signs of video anomalies or compression related artifacts.

Incorporating elements of suspense and action, a film like this relies heavily on its soundtrack to elicit the intended effect upon the audience, and this DTS-HD Master Audio does just that. This is a fairly aggressive surround sound mix that features an array of well-placed sound effects that engage the listening position. The room is illuminated with an array of sounds that are both directional and ambient in nature. I appreciated the attention to detail that went into creating the surround mix as it effectively replicates the environments featured in the film. Bass reproduction is clean and hard hitting as it accentuates the audio’s excellent dynamic range with palpable impact. Dialog intelligibility is never a problem even during the film’s active moments. This is a great surround sound experience that made this film a bit more enjoyable.



Bonus Features:
  • Disc 1: Baby Driver Ultra HD Blu-ray
    Disc 2: Baby Driver Blu-ray
    •Extended/Deleted Scenes - 20 minutes of extended scenes and a few moments that were dropped from the final cut.
    •Mozart In A Go-Kart: Ansel Drives - Ride shotgun with star Ansel Elgort as he works with the talented stunt drivers to become the ultimate getaway driver.
    •I Need A Killer Track: The Music - Explore how the film’s phenomenal soundtrack dictated both the writing process and all aspects of production on Baby Driver.
    •That's My Baby: Edgar Wright - Follow Edgar Wright’s vision of Baby Driver from its inception two decades ago, to its ultimate realization on the big screen.
    •Meet Your New Crew: Doc's Gang - Led by powerhouse Kevin Spacey, the cast assembled to form Doc’s gang is perfectly constructed with stars like Jamie Foxx and Jon Hamm as well as up and coming talent like Eiza González and Jon Bernthal. Go behind the scenes to see this talented group at work as they bring these characters to life.
    •Find Something Funky On There: The Choreography - With every frame of Baby Driver set to a specific beat it took precise choreography by the cast, crew and editors to create a cinematic dance like nothing that’s been done before. Hear from the choreographer and filmmakers on this groundbreaking process.
    •Devil Behind The Wheel: The Car Chases - From closing down Atlanta’s interstates to creating eyepopping maneuvers for a variety of vehicles, witness the amazing craftsmanship and sheer determination that made the film’s incredible car chases possible.
    •Animatics - Check out over 35 minutes of the numerous pre-vis animatics developed by Edgar Wright as part of his meticulous preparation.
    •Ansel Elgort Audition - See firsthand the audition that proved without a doubt that Ansel Elgort was the perfect choice for Baby.
    •Annotated Coffee Run Rehearsal - Day one of production involved one of the film’s most elaborately choreographed sequences where every movement is carefully crafted. Check out the preliminary rehearsal and see the behind the scenes movement in concert with Ansel Elgort’s on camera choreography.
    •Hair, Make Up & Costume Tests - In this stylized montage, witness the transformation of the actors through costume, hair and make-up tests.
    •Mint Royale - "Blue Song" Music Video - This music video directed by Edgar years ago for the band Mint Royale showcases some early inspiration for Baby Driver.
    •Complete Storyboard Gallery - See the elaborate storyboards developed for the film in this gallery featuring storyboards for the entire film.
    •Director Commentary
    •Filmmaker Commentary (Edgar Wright and Director of Photography Bill Pope)
  • Digital HD Copy



Final Thoughts:

Written/Directed by Edgar Wright Baby Driver adheres to a formula that is blended with all the right ingredients, resulting in a highly entertaining action/thriller. It comes to Blu-ray from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment in this Ultra HD Combo Pack that enhances the image quality while invigorating the listening experience with a noteworthy Dolby Atmos immersive sound mix. Also included is a fan friendly assortment of extra that are worth exploring. Baby Driver is definitely worth considering as a blind purchase on Ultra HD Blu-ray/Blu-ray, despite any technical shortcomings. It’s lots of fun!












Ralph Potts
AVS Forum Blu-ray Reviews



Reference Review System:

JVC DLA-RS500 3D/4K Ready High Definition Front Projector
(Calibrated with Calman 5 & C6-HDR Meter from Spectracal)
Stewart Filmscreen - Studiotek 130 G3 100” 16x9 Screen
Carada Masquerade Electronic Horizontal Masking System
Marantz AV8802A 13.2 Channel Audio/Video Processor
Sherbourn Technologies - 7/200 Seven Channel Amplifier
B&K Reference 200.7 Series 2 Seven Channel Amplifier
Oppo UDP-203 Ultra HD Blu-ray Player
Sony Playstation 3 Blu-ray disc Player
System Controller: Apple iPad/iRule Pro HD Universal Remote Control
Canton "Ergo" and Canton In-Ceiling Series Speakers
SVS Ultra Surrounds (Gloss Finish in Bipolar Configuration)
SVS PB-13 Ultra (Rosenut finish)
SVS SB-13 Ultra (Piano Gloss finish)
Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner/Surge Protector
Wireworld, Better Cables (Silver Serpent) - Audio/Video/Speaker Cabling
AC Infinity Aircom T8 Component Cooling Systems

powertoburn 10-10-2017 11:20 AM

Looking forward to receiving my copy this afternoon!

afrogt 10-10-2017 12:40 PM

Saw it in the theater. Really looking forward to watching it again. Not sure if I'll buy but the soundtrack is awesome. And yes, Deborah (Lily James) is a cutie!

puddy77 10-10-2017 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph Potts (Post 54930704)
For its presentation in Ultra HD Baby Driver (shot digitally) was finished at a 2K Digital Intermediate.

Hey Ralph, thanks for the review. Looking forward to seeing this again on UBD.

One small thing. Baby Driver was shot anamorphically on 35mm film, not digitally.

Dreambo 10-10-2017 01:28 PM

Bridge Over River Kwai 4K release
 
Will you be reviewing Kwai soon? Great price of $14.99 this day...I wonder if it's worth it to upgrade?

Ralph Potts 10-10-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreambo (Post 54931586)
Will you be reviewing Kwai soon? Great price of $14.99 this day...I wonder if it's worth it to upgrade?

Greetings,

Yes, look for it in the next day or two. Please be sure to make posts like this on the "Blu-rays that are on Deck" thread. Thanks! :)


Regards,

Ralph Potts 10-10-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puddy77 (Post 54931532)
Hey Ralph, thanks for the review. Looking forward to seeing this again on UBD.

One small thing. Baby Driver was shot anamorphically on 35mm film, not digitally.

Greetings,

Thanks puddy77. Checked on IMDB and wasn't 100 percent certain. I appreciate your input! :)

Regards,

Gorilla Killa 10-10-2017 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreambo (Post 54931586)
Will you be reviewing Kwai soon? Great price of $14.99 this day...I wonder if it's worth it to upgrade?

It is;)

puddy77 10-11-2017 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph Potts (Post 54931900)
Greetings,

Thanks puddy77. Checked on IMDB and wasn't 100 percent certain. I appreciate your input! :)

Regards,

No problem, Ralph. IMDb lists all sources and sometimes makes if hard to figure out what the primary source is. Sometimes movies like this have a scene or two shot on digital even though the majority is film. If you want another source to bookmark, Kodak has a Shot on Film page that stays up to date: https://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/c...ns/default.htm

Dreambo 10-11-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph Potts (Post 54931896)
Greetings,

Yes, look for it in the next day or two. Please be sure to make posts like this on the "Blu-rays that are on Deck" thread. Thanks! :)


Regards,

Where would the BLu Ray "On Deck" be????

dan4081 10-11-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreambo (Post 54935828)
Where would the BLu Ray "On Deck" be????

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/187-of...iews-deck.html

mars5l 10-11-2017 06:19 PM

Fun ride of a movie and a really eclectic sound track which I loved. Was let down by the ending, not bad just could have been something different. I was hoping for a better look than what it was in the picture quality.

jaykay0222 10-11-2017 06:24 PM

With a star cast like Spacey, Jamie Fox, Jon Hamm, I expected must better script

It is just me, movie is boring with that kind of ending

Since I watched in the movie theatre, I would neither rent it nor buy it

Ovech-King 10-11-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaykay0222 (Post 54938490)
With a star cast like Spacey, Jamie Fox, Jon Hamm, I expected must better script

It is just me, movie is boring with that kind of ending

Since I watched in the movie theatre, I would neither rent it nor buy it

And you didn't even mention the superficial , forced love story

Rengozu 10-11-2017 10:40 PM

I loved it. Watched it last night and again tonight with a room full of friends. Great sound throughout.

mgproudfit 10-12-2017 06:14 AM

Can anyone confirm if the Atmos mix is on the blu-ray and the 4k or just on the 4k?

PioManiac 10-12-2017 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgproudfit (Post 54940228)
Can anyone confirm if the Atmos mix is on the blu-ray and the 4k or just on the 4k?

Its a Sony release, so Atmos is 4K/UHD exclusive.

From Raplh's very detailed (and accurate) review above...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph Potts (Post 54930704)

Baby Driver comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 52 Mbps and lossless Dolby Atmos (Dolby TrueHD 7.1 compatible) sound that has an average bitrate of 4.3 Mbps.



Baby Driver comes to Blu-ray Disc from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 25 Mbps and lossless DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio sound that has an average bitrate of 3.6 Mbps.

;)

mgproudfit 10-12-2017 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PioManiac (Post 54940300)
Its a Sony release, so Atmos is 4K/UHD exclusive.

Gosh I hate that. Thanks.

PioManiac 10-12-2017 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgproudfit (Post 54940302)
Gosh I hate that. Thanks.

The cost of NEVER missing an Atmos/DTS:X release again....as little as $149

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1507310871

(and that's in Canada where prices for CE's are usually 25-30% higher)


All 4K players are capable of down-converting to HD if by chance you don't have a 4K display.
...and most have dual HDMI outs if you need to split your audio/video.

mgproudfit 10-12-2017 06:43 AM

Yea, I just hate that it's something else I need/want to buy. I wish the PS4 could do UHD. I kinda don't want to add another component to my system.

PioManiac 10-12-2017 07:25 AM

Thanks for the Review Ralph, spot on as usual ;)

Loved the Sound design on this one with the gunshots cued up to the beat of the Music, Stellar ATMOS Mix!

Just a couple quick screen shots off my 65" OLED from my Smartphone,
Can't wait to re-spin it on the weekend on the JVC at 120" with friends that told me to buy this one in 4K/Atmos!

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...psv5ruldqd.jpg

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7je3yet5.jpg

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6mpieqha.jpg

:smile:

iFenixxZ 10-13-2017 11:28 AM

Unfortunately the master is from 2k..

But the sounds are amazing

bass addict 10-14-2017 03:01 PM

Can someone comment on the language? Is it F words throughout? I'd love to see this but personally can't stand movies chocked full of unnecessary profanity.

Ralph Potts 10-14-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bass addict (Post 54954360)
Can someone comment on the language? Is it F words throughout? I'd love to see this but personally can't stand movies chocked full of unnecessary profanity.

Greetings,

It's not pervasive. The rating is probably more for the use of violence.


Regards,

bass addict 10-14-2017 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph Potts (Post 54954640)
Quote:

Originally Posted by bass addict (Post 54954360)
Can someone comment on the language? Is it F words throughout? I'd love to see this but personally can't stand movies chocked full of unnecessary profanity.

Greetings,

It's not pervasive. The rating is probably more for the use of violence

Regards,

Thank you Ralph.

PioManiac 10-14-2017 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PioManiac (Post 54940558)
Thanks for the Review Ralph, spot on as usual ;)

Loved the Sound design on this one with the gunshots cued up to the beat of the Music, Stellar ATMOS Mix!

Just a couple quick screen shots off my 65" OLED from my Smartphone,
Can't wait to re-spin it on the weekend on the JVC at 120" with friends that told me to buy this one in 4K/Atmos!

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...psv5ruldqd.jpg


:smile:

Update, Baby Driver was just a impressive on the JVC in HDR at 120"
actually looked a little better on the JVC in HDR than the OLED in DV IMHO ;)

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4gzmnm3r.jpg


True 4K vs 2K intermediate master means very little, (IMHO)
The biggest difference on most 4K/UHD's vs regular BD's is the addition of HDR, WCG (and ATMOS Audio)

resolution means almost nothing when most 4K capable displays up-convert to 4K anyway

darthray 10-14-2017 06:16 PM

When I saw this one at my local Wal Mart (the only to buy Blu-ray in this town), I skip-it.
But after reading the review and the comments, I will now purchase-it and put it in my cue of movies pilling up.
Disappointed with the picture quality, but sound like the atmos sound track will make up for that:)


Thanks for another detail review Ralph.


Ray

darthray 10-14-2017 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PioManiac (Post 54955004)
Update, Baby Driver was just a impressive on the JVC in HDR at 120"
actually looked a little better on the JVC in HDR than the OLED in DV IMHO ;)

http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4gzmnm3r.jpg


True 4K vs 2K intermediate master means very little, (IMHO)
The biggest difference on most 4K/UHD's vs regular BD's is the addition of HDR, WCG (and ATMOS Audio)

resolution means almost nothing when most 4K capable displays up-convert to 4K anyway


Thanks for the follow-up with pictures.
Good info for me, since getting a 4K projector is my last up-date to do.
And honestly, cannot see that much of a difference between the two pictures, this make the waiting game for 4K projector to come down in price, a lot easier.


I guess my hearing is still very good, and much better that eyes:eek:


Ray

PioManiac 10-14-2017 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthray (Post 54955276)
Thanks for the follow-up with pictures.
Good info for me, since getting a 4K projector is my last up-date to do.
And honestly, cannot see that much of a difference between the two pictures, this make the waiting game for 4K projector to come down in price, a lot easier.


I guess my hearing is still very good, and much better that eyes:eek:


Ray

Both pictures are 4K, the main difference is the OLED is 65" and in Dolby Vision.
The JVC image is also 4K but nearly 4x Larger, and in HDR ( since no projectors can play DV).

My JVC only cost me about $2K more than my 65" OLED ;)

kcgr 10-14-2017 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bass addict (Post 54954360)
Can someone comment on the language? Is it F words throughout? I'd love to see this but personally can't stand movies chocked full of unnecessary profanity.

Not to plug another site, but I don't know anywhere else that can provide what you're looking for: Go check out the movie entry on IMDB. It should have a parents advisory section. Most popular movies have all the profanity, violence and sexuality detailed so a parent can make an informed decision about a movie.

IMDB= internet movie database.


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