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As stated many times and many places Nolan does not like Atmos or DTS:X so they can't be included.
Yes Agreed that he does not like immersive audio and the movies are great, But we are just voicing our disappointment and frustration that there is no Dolby Atmos or DTS-X immersive audio. Tthis would have made them greater. So if there is no immersive audio No Sale!
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I wish Nolan was into immersive audio too, especially for Dunkirk. But I will still be buying these Day 1. I've been holding off viewing Interstellar again just to wait for the 4k disc.

The Prestige is the only movie in this set that I've only watched once. Giving it another go in 4k will be awesome.

Damn I can't wait!
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Got my bullmoose order in a few days ago. $14.71 per movie is a steal, including the newest Dunkirk which will have a reference quality picture and will be incredible looking in 4k.
As did I, only to get the cancellation email the next morning. Sad, but what can you do...

Amazon pre-order is up though, so I placed my order. However, the slip art here does NOT show the "Digital HD" wording at the top.
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No Atmos and no Dolby Vision = no sale for me. I'm done with double and triple dipping.
I too am annoyed that Nolan has such a closeted view of immersive sound. His movies are exactly the type and style that would be most definitely benefit from a 64 channel mix (or 7.2.4 if that's all you've got). Maybe he thinks it is just a little too hard and/or would only add to the costs, with little benefit. Not to put too strong an emphasis on it but this kind of thinking is WRONG.

We ISL's (immersive sound lovers) need to make a noise (in Atmos of course) that he will hear. We want Inception, Interstellar, and the rest in 7.2.4 or more.
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Any further information regarding digital copies? While I am disappointed they will not have ATMOS, I trust Nolan will watch over the remastering process and the films will all look better than ever. That said, I see no point in double-dipping at $150 if I do not have access to digital copies for all films in the set.

Thanks for any feedback!
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Any further information regarding digital copies? While I am disappointed they will not have ATMOS, I trust Nolan will watch over the remastering process and the films will all look better than ever. That said, I see no point in double-dipping at $150 if I do not have access to digital copies for all films in the set.

Thanks for any feedback!
The article on Blu-Ray.com mentions digital copies for the individual films and the Batman box set, but nothing specific for the Nolan box set. But the cover artwork for the Nolan box set does say Digital copy, so it seems likely.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=22451

Also, the Intersteller cover art says 'Digital HD' whereas the others just say 'Digital'?

EDIT: Apparently that box art is wrong. No digital copies for the box set.

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Hopefully these will come with individual cases (well, Dark Knight Trilogy can be a single case) so I can keep them alphabetized on the shelf.

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Hopefully these will come with individual cases (well, Dark Knight Trilogy can be a single case) so I can keep them alphabetized on the shelf.

Can't wait!


People have asked on a different forum and it appears that all will have their own case with individual artwork. What this may be is all the individual releases just in one box and without digital codes.
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We ISL's (immersive sound lovers) need to make a noise (in Atmos of course) that he will hear. We want Inception, Interstellar, and the rest in 7.2.4 or more.
Maybe I've misinterpreted the technology so far but, AFAIK, there's no 7.2.4. When it's Atmos, it's the decoder that handles all the channels you can throw at it, and uses them to properly position "sound objects".
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Maybe I've misinterpreted the technology so far but, AFAIK, there's no 7.2.4. When it's Atmos, it's the decoder that handles all the channels you can throw at it, and uses them to properly position "sound objects".
Is this correct or have I got it wrong?
You got it right, so Atmos is pretty much future proof. OTOH, I believe DTS:X is still mixed in channels as of today, such as 7.1.4.

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Maybe I've misinterpreted the technology so far but, AFAIK, there's no 7.2.4. When it's Atmos, it's the decoder that handles all the channels you can throw at it, and uses them to properly position "sound objects".
Is this correct or have I got it wrong?
I don't know what AFAIK is but the 7.2.4 I was referring to is my Atmos configuration, I want more. I went so far as to add a 4K UHD player (I don't have a 4K projector or TV) just so I could get the Atmos soundtracks that are not on the Blu-ray versions.

Chris Nolan movies are absolutely the right style for Atmos sound mixes. A shame he thinks it's too hard to do. Or maybe he is a little too old school, like those who sit in their leather recliners listening to Andy Williams on the original vinyl.
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I don't know what AFAIK is but the 7.2.4 I was referring to is my Atmos configuration, I want more. I went so far as to add a 4K UHD player (I don't have a 4K projector or TV) just so I could get the Atmos soundtracks that are not on the Blu-ray versions.

Chris Nolan movies are absolutely the right style for Atmos sound mixes. A shame he thinks it's too hard to do. Or maybe he is a little too old school, like those who sit in their leather recliners listening to Andy Williams on the original vinyl.
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So has anyone received the box yet?

The 19th has come and gone, Amazon hasn't even showed that it was shipped yet...

Was the release delayed?

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So has anyone received the box yet?

The 19th has come and gone, Amazon hasn't even showed that it was shipped yet...

Was the release delayed?
Got my Dark Knight set yesterday. Watched Batman Begins lastnight. Fantastic.
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After contacting Amazon they apparently ran out of stock, they expect re-stock on the 29th.

They must not have had a lot of inventory initially, I pre-ordered the box about a month ago too.

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So has anyone received the box yet?

The 19th has come and gone, Amazon hasn't even showed that it was shipped yet...

Was the release delayed?
BestBuy stores have/had some on shelves but they're probably gone by now. I got one.
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Sadly the 4K UltraHD boxed set is way too expensive over here in the UK. Indeed it's cheaper to purchase the 7 movies individually

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After contacting Amazon they apparently ran out of stock, they expect re-stock on the 29th.

They must not have had a lot of inventory initially, I pre-ordered the box about a month ago too.

I didn't get mine either. Amazon is saying it won't come out until the 29th. I'm pretty bummed.
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Ok so I just got home with Dark Knight and Inception 4K and find out about this. Dark Knight is the only batman movie I really love enough to own, and I loved and have not watched Inception since my BD disc had a skipping problem in the middle of the movie. How are his other movies, Dunkirk/etc. . I think The Dark Knight and Inception are his best movies I've seen. I will buy Interstellar just for Hans Zimmer's score. But I am not sure about those other movies. What are the cream of the crop of this collection if you had to rate them among the 3 movies I'm buying.

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Got the box as a Christmas gift, and while I'm thrilled with the actual movies, was also saddened to see no digital copies included. Not only that but the movies are in generic cases that hold them all. (one for all the UHD's, and two for the BluRay's and special feature discs) Guess I was hoping for the real box-art cases that just fit into the box. Oh well.

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Ok so I just got home with Dark Knight and Inception 4K and find out about this. Dark Knight is the only batman movie I really love enough to own, and I loved and have not watched Inception since my BD disc had a skipping problem in the middle of the movie. How are his other movies, Dunkirk/etc. . I think The Dark Knight and Inception are his best movies I've seen. I will buy Interstellar just for Hans Zimmer's score. But I am not sure about those other movies. What are the cream of the crop of this collection if you had to rate them among the 3 movies I'm buying.
I kind of have two lists brewing here...


Best to worst (and none are bad):

1) The Prestige
2) Dunkirk
3) Batman Begins
4) Memento
5) Insomnia
6) Interstellar
7) Inception
8) The Dark Knight
9) The Dark Knight Rises
10) Following


Favorite to least (and I love them all):

1) Inception
2) The Dark Knight Rises
3) The Dark Knight
4) Interstellar
5) The Prestige
6) Memento
7) Dunkirk
8) Batman Begins
9) Insomnia
10) Following


If there is one thing this list shows, it is that you should absolutely check out The Prestige and Memento.

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Just received my copy of the Dark Knight Trilogy. Amazon showed out of stock, but due in on Dec. 26th. However once I placed my order on the 22nd, it showed as shipped the next day so it may be similar for the full box set or for the other movies individually.

As a side note, the trilogy does ship with each movie in their own case and does include a blu-ray and digital copy as well.
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My impressions of the Dark Knight are very good. I am awed by some of the scenes. The opening scene with the IMAX format and the big building with windows. Wow does it look super sharp. The Dark Knight is def one of my favorite movies of all time, so a worthy double dip upgrade IMO. Heath Ledger's performance deserves the biggest sharpest picture with biggest sound you can give it.

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I got an Amazon email saying the full Collection would be the 21st, then the next day an email saying it was pushed to the 28th or 29th, then an email saying it was shipped and arriving the next day (yesterday) and it did indeed arrive yesterday. I originally ordered it back in November as well.

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After contacting Amazon they apparently ran out of stock, they expect re-stock on the 29th.

They must not have had a lot of inventory initially, I pre-ordered the box about a month ago too.
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I kind of have two lists brewing here...


Best to worst (and none are bad):

1) The Prestige
2) Dunkirk
3) Batman Begins
4) Memento
5) Insomnia
6) Interstellar
7) Inception
8) The Dark Knight
9) The Dark Knight Rises
10) Following


Favorite to least (and I love them all):

1) Inception
2) The Dark Knight Rises
3) The Dark Knight
4) Interstellar
5) The Prestige
6) Memento
7) Dunkirk
8) Batman Begins
9) Insomnia
10) Following


If there is one thing this list shows, it is that you should absolutely check out The Prestige and Memento.

Very surprised you liked Rises the most out of the three Batman movies. Anything in particular? Badass Tom Hardy? haha.

Dark Knight, Interstellar and The Prestige are my favourite Nolan movies. Inception is always a great watch. Memento was alright but I can live without it to be honest.

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Very surprised you liked Rises the most out of the three Batman movies. Anything in particular? Badass Tom Hardy? haha.
I think it really just took everything home. I liked the route that they went by idolizing Batman as a symbol. Not to mention that even though this breaks the realism factor, the idea that Bruce had to instill fear in himself to acquire the survival instinct was great.

I have problems with that film though, same with TDK. I didn't have as many problems with BB, though of course I didn't like it as much as the others.

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Just thought I'd chime in on the regular Blu-Ray copies that are included with this set. I bought all of the original releases of the first 6 movies in this collection. The quality has definitely been improved over the original releases. I have not finished archiving all of the movies yet but the ones I've done are all over 30GB. The original release of Batman Begins weighed in at 16GB and the Nolan Collection version is more than double that in size. The Prestige was 24GB and this one is almost 34GB with the original being LPCM and this one being DTSMA 5.1. The Batman trilogy used Dolby TrueHD and these use DTSMA 5.1. I was going to pass on re-ripping these until I ripped a few and there was a huge difference in file size for a 1:1 rip.
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Just thought I'd chime in on the regular Blu-Ray copies that are included with this set. I bought all of the original releases of the first 6 movies in this collection. The quality has definitely been improved over the original releases. I have not finished archiving all of the movies yet but the ones I've done are all over 30GB. The original release of Batman Begins weighed in at 16GB and the Nolan Collection version is more than double that in size. The Prestige was 24GB and this one is almost 34GB with the original being LPCM and this one being DTSMA 5.1. The Batman trilogy used Dolby TrueHD and these use DTSMA 5.1. I was going to pass on re-ripping these until I ripped a few and there was a huge difference in file size for a 1:1 rip.
Wait, really? I heard only BB got a re-encode, and The Prestige UK did as well. Didn't hear anything about TDK and TDKR, I just heard those are the same discs. None are remasters.

For the record, I have the original TDK BD weighing in at 27.1 GB if you only include the Dolby TrueHD track. The entire original TDKR film (all audio, all subtitles) comes in at 35.8 GB.

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Just thought I'd chime in on the regular Blu-Ray copies that are included with this set. I bought all of the original releases of the first 6 movies in this collection. The quality has definitely been improved over the original releases. I have not finished archiving all of the movies yet but the ones I've done are all over 30GB. The original release of Batman Begins weighed in at 16GB and the Nolan Collection version is more than double that in size. The Prestige was 24GB and this one is almost 34GB with the original being LPCM and this one being DTSMA 5.1. The Batman trilogy used Dolby TrueHD and these use DTSMA 5.1. I was going to pass on re-ripping these until I ripped a few and there was a huge difference in file size for a 1:1 rip.
I ripped those original too. BB was 22GB on disc, but it was 14.9GB once it was re encoded to MKV and all the fat was trimmed [extra soundtracks and subs] TDK is at 27.1GB, and TDKR is 32.1GB after ripped. I believe both movies were longer than BB. Frankly unless you have a front projection with larger than 80" screen I could compress these files to half, and never see artifacts beyond what's already there.

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