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Mission Impossible Ultra HD Blu-ray Review



Ralph Potts reviews the Ultra HD Blu-ray debut of the first installment in the Mission Impossible film series. Tom Cruise stars as IMF agent Ethan Hunt, who after coming under false suspicion of disloyalty, must discover and expose the real spy without the help of his organization.



The Review at a Glance:
(max score: 5 )

Film:

Extras:

Audio/UHD Video total rating:
( Max score: 100 )

89



Details:

Studio and Year: Paramount - 1996
MPAA Rating: PG-13
Feature running time: 110 minutes
Genre: Action/Thriller

Disc Format: BD-66
Encoding: HEVC
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 2160p/24

Audio Format(s): English Dolby TrueHD 5.1, French/Spanish/Portuguese Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English SDH, French, Spanish, Portuguese
Starring: Tom Cruise, Jon Voight, Henry Czerny, Emmanuelle Beart, Ving Rhames, Jean Reno, Vanessa Redgrave, Kristin Scott-Thomas
Directed by: Brian De Palma
Music by: Danny Elfman
Written by: David Koepp, Robert Towne
Region Code: A


Release Date: June 26, 2018


"Expect the Impossible"


My Take:

When U.S. government operative Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise) and his mentor, Jim Phelps (Jon Voight), go on a covert assignment that takes a disastrous turn, Jim is killed, and Ethan becomes the prime murder suspect. Now a fugitive, Hunt recruits brilliant hacker Luther Stickell (Ving Rhames) and maverick pilot Franz Krieger (Jean Reno) to help him sneak into a heavily guarded CIA building to retrieve a confidential computer file that will prove his innocence.

Based on the popular television series Mission Impossible was quite the spy thriller when it was released nearly twenty-two years ago. I remember seeing it and liking the effects laden update to the show’s take on espionage. The narrative works although if you look closely you can see what’s coming but, that’s not a shortcoming in a film like this. The script primarily stays on point and Brian De Palma’s direction doesn’t waver, keeping the primary focus where it should be.

Despite its advancing age I think it holds up fairly well, featuring several entertaining set pieces that allow its star to show off his chops. Needless to say Mission Impossible took Tom Cruise’s career to new heights, especially within this genre. This film isn’t my favorite in the series but, then again, they all rank roughly about the same, which is so say, fairly entertaining and fun. I am glad that it has come to Ultra HD Blu-ray as it gave me an excuse to revisit it. The ride was worth it.


Replay Value:

Parental Guide:

The rating is for some intense action violence.



AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


UHD Presentation(HDR-10): 90
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


  • HDR: Dark Highlights:
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  • HDR: Expanded Color:
  • Resolution:
  • Visual Impact:




UHD Presentation (Dolby Vision): 90
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


  • HDR: Dark Highlights:
  • HDR: Bright Highlights:
  • HDR: Expanded Color:
  • Resolution:
  • Visual Impact:



Audio: 88
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


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  • DSU Rating * (non-rated element):



Mission Impossible comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from Paramount Home Media Distribution featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video and lossless Dolby TrueHD 5.1 channel sound.

For its presentation on Ultra HD Blu-ray Mission Impossible was remastered from the original 35mm film elements and finished in 4K.

It's important to note that the ultimate goal for any release on home video is to present a film in the highest possible quality based upon its original elements. A film like Mission Impossible has an aesthetic that incorporates film grain and the use of optics that won't consistently result in the type of high gloss, tack-like sharpness of a film shot using digital cameras. This isn't a problem and shouldn't be seen as such.

Looking at the film's opening sequence, the improvement in depth, definition and color rendering was immediately noticeable. I was struck by the finer details present in the clothing and backgrounds. The exterior shots of Prague and London as well as the variety of earth tones and colors represented over the course of the film appeared noticeably more vivid and pleasing to the eye. The addition of high dynamic range added a tangible visual element that enriched both natural and artificial light. The car bombing and exploding fish tank sequences had excellent visual pop. This was the case during brightly lit exterior scenes also.

Dark highlights were rendered with excellent dimension especially when coupled with brighter visual elements, such as the extended train/helicopter/tunnel scene in the finale. The image isn't razor sharp and, there are intermittent issues with innate softening, but detail rendering is very good overall. Grain remains intact with predominantly natural rendering that occasionally takes on more emphasis. As I watched I felt as though I was rediscovering this film all over again. Hands down, this is the best Mission Impossible has ever looked on home video. Kudos to Paramount for giving this the treatment it deserves.



Dolby Vision vs HDR-10:

I utilize the TCL 55P607 UHD Dolby Vision HDR flat panel in my review system to enable me to compare the visual quality of titles that contained the Dolby Vision metadata versus its HDR-10 counterpart on the same disc. All titles are first watched via my JVC front projector. I then select specific scenes which are watched on the TCL, first via HDR-10 then via Dolby Vision. The TCL isn’t among the top tier flat panels with DV, however it came recommended by AVS Senior Editor Mark Henninger, and calibrates/performs extremely well for a set at its price point.

* The cumulative A/V score will still be based upon the HDR-10 rating, with the DV rating serving as informational only for now.*

Comparing the DV and HDR-10 presentations for Mission Impossible, I found the HDR renderings to essentially be the same. As I alluded to earlier, this film’s elements are lent to bright color and on occasion, vibrant highlights, however the subtleties that are present lie in the warm accents and reproduction of secondary hues. Switching back and forth between the DV and HDR-10 renderings yielded minute differences that are probably more subjective and not enough to warrant a rating difference.


Paramount saw fit to provide a lossless 5.1 channel soundtrack which offers a much-needed improvement over the previous lossy Dolby Digital track. The 5.1 channel Dolby TrueHD sound is quite good and makes active use of the entire system. This is a solid presentation that brings out the best in this 20 plus year old recording. It features noteworthy dynamic range and punchy bass that augment the impact associated with the films action-based elements and music. The mix facilitates seamless integration of the front and rear channels, creating a stable and proportioned listening experience. The surround channels are actively engaged with a blend of discretely placed sounds and spatial ambience. Dialog it reproduced with aplomb as I never had any trouble with prioritization even during the film's active segments.



For those not familiar with the details regarding Ultra HD Blu-ray you can refer to my article that includes some pertinent data on the subject. Here is the link:

Ultra HD Blu-ray Has Come to AVS Forum Blu-ray Reviews




Bonus Features:
  • Disc 1: Mission Impossible Ultra HD Blu-ray
  • Disc 2: Mission Impossible Blu-ray
  • Legacy Bonus Material
  • Digital Copy



Final Thoughts:

Based on the television series created by Bruce Geller Mission Impossible was a genre bending thriller at the time of its release. Twenty-one plus years later it holds up quite well and is still an entertaining watching experience. It’s making its Ultra HD Blu-ray debut in this Ultra HD Blu-ray Combo Pack from Paramount Home Media Distribution featuring transformative video quality, engaging and complimentary lossless surround sound and legacy bonus material. If you’re a fan this offering presents Mission Impossible in its finest light since coming to home video and is a must have.














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While the VFX were 2K this was a new 4K master derived from the original 35mm not an upconversion.

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I have the seven season Mission Impossible TV series DVD set and still occasionally watch some of my favorite episodes. When the Tom Cruise reboot of MI came out I really enjoyed it. It had a lot of what made the TV series so good and having Jim Phelps back was nice. I do have the first 4 movie Blu-ray set and Rogue Nation as a standalone. I'll probably get the 4Ks of MI-1, Ghost Protocol (which is a terrific film) and Rogue Nation. I'm not sure about MIs 2 and 3. They didn't strike me as being up to the same level of quality writing as the movie before it and those after it. It sounds like the 4K of MI-1 is more than a slight A/V quality upgrade from the Blu-ray, right Ralph?
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I'm not sure about MIs 2 and 3. They didn't strike me as being up to the same level of quality writing as the movie before it and those after it.

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I thought that the late Philip Seymour Hoffman was a great villain in MI 3.

MI 1 struck me as more of a deconstruction of the TV series than a continuation. I liked Ghost Protocol, but that was partly because I'm something of a Brad Bird (director) fan.
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That sounds good. Where did you hear this?
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I have the seven season Mission Impossible TV series DVD set and still occasionally watch some of my favorite episodes. When the Tom Cruise reboot of MI came out I really enjoyed it. It had a lot of what made the TV series so good and having Jim Phelps back was nice. I do have the first 4 movie Blu-ray set and Rogue Nation as a standalone. I'll probably get the 4Ks of MI-1, Ghost Protocol (which is a terrific film) and Rogue Nation. I'm not sure about MIs 2 and 3. They didn't strike me as being up to the same level of quality writing as the movie before it and those after it. It sounds like the 4K of MI-1 is more than a slight A/V quality upgrade from the Blu-ray, right Ralph?
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I didn't receive any documentation from the studio regarding how these were sourced so I erred on the side of them being upconversions. Truth be told they look good enough that I would suspect they were re-mastered but, I would hate to indicate that without verification.


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I'm really hoping for a 4K UHD box set at some point.
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I didn't receive any documentation from the studio regarding how these were sourced so I erred on the side of them being upconversions. Truth be told they look good enough that I would suspect they were re-mastered but, I would hate to indicate that without verification.





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If it's not verified, wouldn't it be better to state that you do not know if the DI is 2K or 4K and suggest from what you've seen what you suspect it to be?

Other reviews have suggested it is a new 4K scan.

Wasn't this one finished on film, a 35mm intermediate? So, likely a new 4K scan of the film intermediate?



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I believe it was a new 4K scan and looks it. My only gripe is the color timing is a bit different than the Blu-ray, specifically white, which is a tad too warm. This is apparent in the CIA headquarters scene...the walls aren't stark enough and when the CIA drone is walking back and forth from the bathroom, the scene looks a bit flat and "off." Overall, it's the best the film has looked on home video, that's for sure.

Great review Ralph.
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I didn't receive any documentation from the studio regarding how these were sourced so I erred on the side of them being upconversions. Truth be told they look good enough that I would suspect they were re-mastered but, I would hate to indicate that without verification.


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If it's not verified, wouldn't it be better to state that you do not know if the DI is 2K or 4K and suggest from what you've seen what you suspect it to be?

Other reviews have suggested it is a new 4K scan.

Wasn't this one finished on film, a 35mm intermediate? So, likely a new 4K scan of the film intermediate?



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I believe it was a new 4K scan and looks it. My only gripe is the color timing is a bit different than the Blu-ray, specifically white, which is a tad too warm. This is apparent in the CIA headquarters scene...the walls aren't stark enough and when the CIA drone is walking back and forth from the bathroom, the scene looks a bit flat and "off." Overall, it's the best the film has looked on home video, that's for sure.

Great review Ralph.
Thanks for chiming in Dave. Your feedback is always appreciated..


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Another lost opportunity for an Atmos presentation. Which would have been my only reason to re-purchase this movie. Bummer!!
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Indeed, why go through the effort and only do half a job?
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Thanks for the review, this is going into my collection. The first MI was an incredible movie experience, definitely ranks up there in my movie-going history. I saw it in the theater several times. I'm really, really excited to get this movie and rewatch it. I haven't seen it since the DVD!

It looks like you all figured out (correctly) that this is a native 4K film scan. My dad had free subscriptions to CineFX and Computer Graphics World magazines (among others) due to the expensive CAD/rendering software he's been using since the early 90s and he would give me all the magazines. I enjoyed reading up on the deep-dives into the burgeoning CGI market. Below is an excerpt I found online from CFX. For context, this was 1996: Twister, Independence Day, Multiplicity (so many Keatons!), The Rock, Broken Arrow, Executive Decision, Dragonheart, Space Jam, Star Trek First Contact, Mars Attacks, James and the Giant Peach. All had really good effects for the time and all were finished on film. The DI was still uncommon and most digital effects work was printed and then finished on film. Miniatures, pyro, projection tricks, matte paintings, blue-screen rotoscoping, and early were all used in MI and MI2. While the digital effects aren't great by modern standards, the rest of the content is solid, unlike early/poor 1.5K/2K DIs that are bad across the board.

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I love the first film but haven't bought it on anything post laserdisc. Glad to see that there's finally release that's doing the film justice.
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I have the HD-DVD of the first three. This was one of the few films where HD-DVD (with dolby digital plus) actually had a technical advantage over the blu. Will have to think whether I should upgrade.. it's enticing.

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Great review as usual Ralph. I think that this one goes on my UHD rental queue and then I'll decide if I want to get it. I never bought the bluray version because of the lossy sound.

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I have the HD-DVD of the first three. This was one of the few films where HD-DVD (with dolby digital plus) actually had a technical advantage over the blu. Will have to think whether I should upgrade.. it's enticing.
LOL, my HD-DVD player bit the dust ... I have this on both HD-DVD and Laserdisc! I’ll probably get this one again.
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Another lost opportunity for an Atmos presentation. Which would have been my only reason to re-purchase this movie. Bummer!!
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Indeed, why go through the effort and only do half a job?
I agree with you both. Unfortunately I will have to pass on this one too. Its a damn shame there is no Atmos.

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I agree with you both. Unfortunately I will have to pass on this one too. Its a damn shame there is no Atmos.
I totally understand wanting an Atmos re-mix, but, that does require extra work as, the only MI film, so far, to have an Atmos (cinema) mix is Rogue Nation, (none of the others were released in Atmos in cinemas).

I would think the upgrade to 4K HDR and from DD5.1 to 24-bit Dolby True HD 5.1 would be worth it. ...they probably thought it would take too much time/effort/$ to remix it, whereas you could turn on the dolby surround upmixer if you want it that bad?
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I totally understand wanting an Atmos re-mix, but, that does require extra work as, the only MI film, so far, to have an Atmos (cinema) mix is Rogue Nation, (none of the others were released in Atmos in cinemas).



I would think the upgrade to 4K HDR and from DD5.1 to 24-bit Dolby True HD 5.1 would be worth it. ...they probably thought it would take too much time/effort/$ to remix it, whereas you could turn on the dolby surround upmixer if you want it that bad?


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I would think the upgrade to 4K HDR and from DD5.1 to 24-bit Dolby True HD 5.1 would be worth it. ...they probably thought it would take too much time/effort/$ to remix it, whereas you could turn on the dolby surround upmixer if you want it that bad?
Well, they're charging for the 4k like they actually have taken the time/effort/$ for the audio track...
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Theatrical mix is DD 7.1.

Having said thst, parts 3 and 4 could have been remixed.

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Jeeze, Paramount has screwed up this release's distribution pretty bad. Pretty much unobtainable on release day. Some places are showing a month's wait, some a week, some just say "sold out".
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Really kicking myself for not pre-ordering this. Looks like Amazon will have it in a week though.
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Really kicking myself for not pre-ordering this. Looks like Amazon will have it in a week though.
I had it pre-ordered from both Amazon and BB, neither one shipped it.
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