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first one. I explained it isn't suitable for children, and he was disappointed but understood there many other movies he could watch.
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Thanks for the review!

Thanks everyone for the thoughts.
Although there were maybe 2 scenes with 4th wall break commentary I liked from the Extended cut in general I preferred the Theater cut and I like the first DP movie better...at least so far.

Both the Audio and Video on the 1080p BD were stellar. There weren't as many opportunities for bass FX as in the first movie.

I viewed the Theater cut after the Extended. I found my second viewing more enjoyable in general since I knew what to expect. There are certainly some more serious scenes in this movie compared to the first movie (sometimes to make fun of the X-men movies and sometimes maybe not), this felt a bit choppy or uneven the first viewing, perhaps because of my expectations based on viewing the first movie the night before, on second viewing I was expecting the shifts which made the movie more enjoyable, at times this movie had the emotional sense of an X-Men movie (particularly the death/water scenes) which the first movie never seemed to visit.

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Great in the theater and liked the home re-watch too.

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Damn it Marvel with another 2K DI... A shame since many of their movies do look fanstastic and I'm sure this will too but.. I want real 4k!
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Damn it Marvel with another 2K DI... A shame since many of their movies do look fanstastic and I'm sure this will too but.. I want real 4k!
Why focus more on the process rather than the result?



A great looking 2K DI is much better than a poor looking 4K DI. Even if Deadpool 2 is a 2K DI it looks pretty damn good.

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Will be watching... and more accurately "listening" to this movie tonight.

100 rating for the Blu-Ray audio! (looking forward (listening) Ralph)
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I must say, I didn't noticed Domino's non shaved underarms in the cinema. Only when I watched it at home did I notice it lol. And Deadpool even makes a joke about it in the film.

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I must say, I didn't noticed Domino's non shaved underarms in the cinema. Only when I watched it at home did I notice it lol. And Deadpool even makes a joke about it in the film.
She must be Swedish. (I didn't notice. My eyes were drawn to several elsewheres.)
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I watched this today on 4K disc. I enjoyed it largely because it's constantly making fun of itself.



The picture was stunning on my RS400. Thanks to Chadb. for making this thing shine on good content.
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Nice review Ralph. That initial 25 minutes with little use of overhead audio is very curious but it sounds like from that point on Deadpool 2 doesn't suffer from what Disney's recent Marvel releases have in terms of low volume and some deficits in overall dynamics. Is that a reasonable assessment? I picked up the 4K today and I'm actually going to listen to the commentary track for a change since Ryan Reynolds promises to be hilariously snarky. It's impressive that the package contains the theatrical and Super-Dooper versions on separate 4K and Blu-ray discs respectively.
How about the ATMOS? Available on the blu-ray as well?
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How about the ATMOS? Available on the blu-ray as well?
The Blu-ray has DTS-HD MA 7.1 audio.
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The Blu-ray has DTS-HD MA 7.1 audio.
Thank you for that. Guess you have to ask -- I find Ralph's wording confusing -- appearing in the blu-ray numerical scoring (plus independent review) section:


"The Dolby TrueHD 7.1 (core accompanying the Atmos track) and DTS 7.1 Master Audio soundtracks contained in the Ultra HD and Blu-ray discs are demonstration quality and sure to please those who like to play their systems near reference."

If Ralph had included the qualifier "respectively" after "Blu-ray discs" in the sentence above, I think it becomes more clear. But it could be that both formats are contained on both discs, so had to ask. Thanks Cal1981 for the clarification....
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Thank you for that. Guess you have to ask -- I find Ralph's wording confusing -- appearing in the blu-ray numerical scoring (plus independent review) section:


"The Dolby TrueHD 7.1 (core accompanying the Atmos track) and DTS 7.1 Master Audio soundtracks contained in the Ultra HD and Blu-ray discs are demonstration quality and sure to please those who like to play their systems near reference."

If Ralph had included the qualifier "respectively" after "Blu-ray discs" in the sentence above, I think it becomes more clear. But it could be that both formats are contained on both discs, so had to ask. Thanks Cal1981 for the clarification....
You're very welcome. Depending on your speaker setup, most DTS audio tracks sound great when Neural:X expands them beyond their baselines. The same goes for Dolby Surround expanding non-Atmos Dolby 5.1 and 7.1 tracks. I have a 5.1.2 setup (using Front Height speakers configured as Top Fronts by my Denon AVR) and the DP2 Blu-ray sounds great with Neural:X. It may not be quite as immersive as a native Atmos or DTS:X track but it's plenty good enough.
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Thank you for that. Guess you have to ask -- I find Ralph's wording confusing -- appearing in the blu-ray numerical scoring (plus independent review) section:


"The Dolby TrueHD 7.1 (core accompanying the Atmos track) and DTS 7.1 Master Audio soundtracks contained in the Ultra HD and Blu-ray discs are demonstration quality and sure to please those who like to play their systems near reference."

If Ralph had included the qualifier "respectively" after "Blu-ray discs" in the sentence above, I think it becomes more clear. But it could be that both formats are contained on both discs, so had to ask. Thanks Cal1981 for the clarification....
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Sorry about that @Emaych , I typically word it that way, but can see where it might be ambiguous. Thanks @Cal1981 for chiming in.


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Great review Ralph. I concur, the disk looked and sounded great, so glad it's not a Disney film with neutered audio.

TBH the actual movie wasn't as good as the first. Remind me who the bad guy was again? Cable? Firefist? Juggernaut? All of them felt a bit underused. At least Domino was good and even Dopinder got a few good lines in.

The glaring issue is the kid who played Russel/Firefist. He's not a strong actor. I found him annoying and his weakness dragged down the whole film for me. I don't go to an R rated superhero film to see child actors, let alone ones who can barely act at that! He makes Ajax look like Thanos.
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Sorry about that @Emaych , I typically word it that way, but can see where it might be ambiguous. Thanks @Cal1981 for chiming in.


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I have not converted over to 4K just yet (may never), but often enough get the 4K versions. It is nice when they put the ATMOS on the blu-ray. I do find it just slightly more immersive, I suppose -- mainly psychological perhaps, as I have over fifty driver elements operational anyway, not counting the two added in for ATMOS. And I do use the NEURAL X (or whatever that is) on my Marantz -- that adds in the sides. So I'm good.

I do try and look up what it is I'm getting -- just found some ambiguity of language that was not giving me complete assurance of what that was. Hate that the studios seem to be trying to compel sales of the 4K for the higher form sound format, but if you are going to buy the combo pack anyway...come on, put the ATMOS on the blu-ray!
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You're very welcome. Depending on your speaker setup, most DTS audio tracks sound great when Neural:X expands them beyond their baselines. The same goes for Dolby Surround expanding non-Atmos Dolby 5.1 and 7.1 tracks. I have a 5.1.2 setup (using Front Height speakers configured as Top Fronts by my Denon AVR) and the DP2 Blu-ray sounds great with Neural:X. It may not be quite as immersive as a native Atmos or DTS:X track but it's plenty good enough.
Oh, I would agree, if my experience with other great reference tracks is any guide. Not even sure I could easily detect the difference -- my system is pretty immersive with the Neural: X factor especially. That's what four pairs (plus) of speakers weighing between 400-700 lbs. gets you, not to discount my pair of dual eighteens, each powered by 4K watts...Thanks for your help -- appreciated!
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Great review Ralph. I concur, the disk looked and sounded great, so glad it's not a Disney film with neutered audio.

TBH the actual movie wasn't as good as the first. Remind me who the bad guy was again? Cable? Firefist? Juggernaut? All of them felt a bit underused. At least Domino was good and even Dopinder got a few good lines in.

The glaring issue is the kid who played Russel/Firefist. He's not a strong actor. I found him annoying and his weakness dragged down the whole film for me. I don't go to an R rated superhero film to see child actors, let alone ones who can barely act at that! He makes Ajax look like Thanos.
I echo your sentiments. I'll add that it seemed like almost every joke was the same as in the first movie, just executed in a slightly different way. It felt used and I remember laughing way harder watching the first Deadpool. Maybe it's because it was so different at the time, but I lmfao for the first three times I watched Deadpool. I still laughed at times, but it definitely wasn't as good as the first.

What saved it for me was Domino. She did a great job of being [email protected]$$ and looked great at the same time. Wow.
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i thought the first 1/2 of the movie was a little too serious, but really picked up in the second half around the time the X-Force was put together. I love the Domino character, and Cable had a good balance vs DP.
Juggernaught was OK and the kid wasn't too bad. Maybe his New Zealand accent threw everyone off who didn't like him



but overall the movie was just a little different from the first. Also, I liked the super duper cut a little more, after watching it the day after watching the theatrical version. I wasn't bothered by the change in song for the action sequence at the end, actually thought the movie was improved with the minor changes


I think I still like the first one a little more, but still like DP2


like the first one, I thought the PQ wasn't as good as could be for movies coming out these days, especially with the bigger budget
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The bad guy was
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i thought the first 1/2 of the movie was a little too serious, but really picked up in the second half around the time the X-Force was put together. I love the Domino character, and Cable had a good balance vs DP.
Juggernaught was OK and the kid wasn't too bad. Maybe his New Zealand accent threw everyone off who didn't like him



but overall the movie was just a little different from the first. Also, I liked the super duper cut a little more, after watching it the day after watching the theatrical version. I wasn't bothered by the change in song for the action sequence at the end, actually thought the movie was improved with the minor changes


I think I still like the first one a little more, but still like DP2


like the first one, I thought the PQ wasn't as good as could be for movies coming out these days, especially with the bigger budget

I thought Deadpool 2 looked great in 4k HDR!

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Are there still many rude dialog/sex scenes with many F words as seen in EP1? I actually really don't like EP1 because of that. My son heard of this movie from his friends at school and asked for watching for few times. I said NO. It was disgusting. It is a public movie with so many young audiences. I think both actors and director should be careful on what they put on screen. Think about the influence on next generation instead of just making profit.
I have 3 kids ages 12, 14, and 16, I have sorta de-sensatized them over the years such that I do let them view certain PG-13 (when really young, like 8-9) and now R rated movies.

That said, while no overt sex scenes I still won't let my 12 year old watch this. My 14 and 16 year old watched it this weekend.

How old is your son? What's his maturity level? Can and do you have frank talks with him about sexuality, morals, ethics, reality vs comic book staged dramatics, etc?
>>Have you seen Lucy, it's also R rated, do you know why? Would you let your boy watch it? Do you engage and talk with your son after watching movies about certain scenes as a parent?

I can swear and cus with the best of them - at times - even then the usage of the F bomb seemed over the top, but hey it's deadpool and that's the genere here, I get it.
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You're very welcome. Depending on your speaker setup, most DTS audio tracks sound great when Neural:X expands them beyond their baselines. The same goes for Dolby Surround expanding non-Atmos Dolby 5.1 and 7.1 tracks. I have a 5.1.2 setup (using Front Height speakers configured as Top Fronts by my Denon AVR) and the DP2 Blu-ray sounds great with Neural:X. It may not be quite as immersive as a native Atmos or DTS:X track but it's plenty good enough.
Yes thank you. I rented the BluRay from RedBox tonight and was surprised to find it didn't have a Atoms soundtrack, only DTS Master. I haven't run into this before though I don't rent a lot of movies and thought it might be because it was a Redbox disc so I checked here?

That said I did find the DTS Master using Neural X upmixing a tremendous sounding track. Running at reference 0 had me jumping in my seat at shots, etc; or spinning my head to hear a very real sounding bit of dialog off to the side or back like someone was in the room. Very dynamic mix with a very clear dialog mix, I didn't miss a word of the talking. I first saw the movie at a local IMAX screen and thought my system provided as good as I heard that the theater, maybe better. A demo quality movie when played on my rig. May end up having to purchase a 4k disc for the Atmos mix when I can grab it cheap second hand off ebay. LOL

As to the movie itself, I actually enjoyed it more the second time around for some reason. I did like it at the theater but tonight here at home I found the movie so much fun that I think I enjoyed it a bit more.

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I have 3 kids ages 12, 14, and 16, I have sorta de-sensatized them over the years such that I do let them view certain PG-13 (when really young, like 8-9) and now R rated movies.

That said, while no overt sex scenes I still won't let my 12 year old watch this. My 14 and 16 year old watched it this weekend.

How old is your son? What's his maturity level? Can and do you have frank talks with him about sexuality, morals, ethics, reality vs comic book staged dramatics, etc?
>>Have you seen Lucy, it's also R rated, do you know why? Would you let your boy watch it? Do you engage and talk with your son after watching movies about certain scenes as a parent?

I can swear and cus with the best of them - at times - even then the usage of the F bomb seemed over the top, but hey it's deadpool and that's the genere here, I get it.
My 9 year old watched this with me , I’m not worried about it
He’s a great kid and understands it’s just a movie
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Yes thank you. I rented the BluRay from RedBox tonight and was surprised to find it didn't have a Atoms soundtrack, only DTS Master. I haven't run into this before though I don't rent a lot of movies and thought it might be because it was a Redbox disc so I checked here?

That said I did find the DTS Master using Neural X upmixing a tremendous sounding track. Running at reference 0 had me jumping in my seat at shots, etc; or spinning my head to hear a very real sounding bit of dialog off to the side or back like someone was in the room. Very dynamic mix with a very clear dialog mix, I didn't miss a word of the talking. I first saw the movie at a local IMAX screen and thought my system provided as good as I heard that the theater, maybe better. A demo quality movie when played on my rig. May end up having to purchase a 4k disc for the Atmos mix when I can grab it cheap second hand off ebay. LOL
Check Amazon also for used discs. With the hardware listed in your signature, you should always get 4K versions of movies if they have Atmos or DTS:X soundtracks. With that rig of yours you could probably blow the roof off your house
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Just watch this one, on 4K/UHD.

While, I did enjoy-it, it was not at the same level, as the first one.

Sound was, the sound was amazing, so was the picture.


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This is my favorite form 2018. Domino must have the most creative superpower in recent memory and I'm touched by the ending which very few films, let alone super hero films, can do.
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My 9 year old watched this with me , I’m not worried about it
He’s a great kid and understands it’s just a movie
My son if fairly mature but still didn’t understand some of the times I was laughing
I am sorry but this is really bad parenting.

15+ would be slightly acceptable but under that would be a strict no-go in my books, no matter how mature or understanding the children are.

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I really liked this movie. A lot. I didn’t laugh a lot with the original Deadpool, but this sequel had me laughing out loud MULTIPLE times during the movie. Gosh it’s a well crafted movie. The A/V is awesome—just awesome! The crisp picture and high-quality audio mix really drew me into the action. Also, the characters are just great. Cable was really well cast—I never looked at Josh Brolin as even remotely capable of action sequences until I saw Sicario, but he blew my expectations to smithereens in Deadpool 2.


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