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The lost data just showed up.. send the $5 please

I forgot I ordered this when first announced, checking it out tonight on the JVC RS600 with my custom HDR curves and also the UB820 with the tone mapping




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Thanks. I'm sure that Ralph will compare them when he does his review. When I get my copy I'll do the same on my OLED.
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I spent about 4 hours last night with the movie - starting with the laserdisc version, bringing the pioneer CLD-99 out of hibernation. a look at the 2007 BD release and finally the UHD. The UHD was excellent and think Kubrick would have certainly appreciated this effort 50 years after the movie was made.



I think the BD release is ready for retirement, the UHD is a must have for fans of the film. I think they did a great job with this transfer.




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More interestingly, it distinguished itself from the modern mix by spreading dialogue across the front three channels, thus following characters’ placement. It’s not so gimmicky as it sounds on paper. I’d say it’s fairly subtle until confronted with HAL’s voice which is spread across all three front channels simultaneously. This gives him an omnipresence that, depending on the viewer, is chilling and heightens the sense that man may now be the tool at the whim of his own creation.
In the original 70mm 6-track theatrical presentations wouldn't this have been the front five channels (with HAL's voice possibly emanating from five behind the screen speakers simultaneously)? I believe the original 6-channel audio was the Todd-AO arrangement which had five behind the screen channels and one surround channel.
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can you please explain what the differences are here:
"The 4K UHD also includes both a remixed and restored 5.1 DTS-HD master audio track, as well as the original 1968 6-track theatrical
audio mix (formatted for 5.1 DTS-HD master audio)
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The way I'm understanding this is that there is one DTS-HD MA track that has been remixed and restored, and one DTS-HD MA track that has been created from the original 1968 6-track theatrical audio mix, making a total of 2 audio options.

Remixed possibly means that a new final mix has been rebuilt from original audio stems or sources (such as separate tapes of dialog, music, and sound effects) assuming they were available. There has probably been some optimization of the mix for the home theater environment, such as having two surround channels rather than one, and having an LFE channel available. Restored probably means that there was some work done to clean up the sound and remove noise and distortion.

I believe the original 1968 6-track theatrical audio mix (for 70mm) would have been Todd-AO format with 5 behind the screen channels and 1 surround channel. To format this for 5.1 DTS-HD MA playback in the home, the five behind the screen tracks of the source have to be mixed down to three front tracks, and the single surround track of the source copied to both surround tracks. There was no LFE track on the 6-track as a source for the DTS .1 channel, so there's really no need to use it at all. However it's possible that some of the lower frequency content from the 6 channels was filtered from them and used to create an LFE track. That doesn't really accomplish anything for anyone who has a playback system with bass management as it would do the same thing. Ultimately that makes this 4.0 audio in a 5.1 format.

It looks like there may also have been an original 4-track theatrical audio mix (for 35mm). If so it may have been a mix-down from the 6-track, or it may have been a completely independent creation. I don't think creating independent mixes for different audio formats was unusual at the time, but I'm not sure if it was done with 2001.
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It will be interesting to hear the difference, if any in the tracks. Thanks for the explanation. So you are saying that the 6 ch track does not have a LFE channel and they made one. Like I said, it will be interesting and I am really looking forward to Ralph's review of this.

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I hope they didn't fabricate an LFE channel for the "original" mix. That kind of double bass management seldom works out very well.
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A lot of film buffs and Kubrick experts have raised a lot of objections to Nolan's "meddling" with the color timing. I saw the restored 70mm print here in Portland. The Dawn of Man sequence seemed *less* cinematic, but that was the only thing I found weird.
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So you are saying that the 6 ch track does not have a LFE channel and they made one. Like I said, it will be interesting and I am really looking forward to Ralph's review of this.
I'm saying that an LFE track may have been created by filtering some of the bass from the original 6 tracks. It's also possible that the LFE track contains no audio information, which would be more faithful to the original. I don't know which.
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OK, so this whole time I thought the UHD version was going to be Nolan's "unrestored" version. I've since learned that that is not the case. Good to know
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I'm saying that an LFE track may have been created by filtering some of the bass from the original 6 tracks. It's also possible that the LFE track contains no audio information, which would be more faithful to the original. I don't know which.
Which ever is fine with me. I guess no LFE would be light work for my sub . I am interested in hearing some reviews of the different sound tracks.
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No LFE track does not mean light on the sub, unless you run your system without bass management (which is very rare and seldom good).
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I had also pre-ordered mine over two months ago on Amazon and they're still saying "Arriving Tuesday", so I guess I'll find out. Could it be the deluxe edition that is pushed out to November?

Now, what I really want to hear is that Lawrence of Arabia is coming to UHD 4K! What's the holdup?
Got a notification today (on the scheduled delivery date) that the product is delayed and will be sent out at a new date, specified as Oct 30th (which is also today). So.... either I get it today, or I don't get it today. Guessing not and they haven't updated the new ship date.

Weird how some on here already got theirs...

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A lot of film buffs and Kubrick experts have raised a lot of objections to Nolan's "meddling" with the color timing. I saw the restored 70mm print here in Portland. The Dawn of Man sequence seemed *less* cinematic, but that was the only thing I found weird.
I hope the film grain wasn't touched. Nothing worse than that waxy look.
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Got a notification today (on the scheduled delivery date) that the product is delayed and will be sent out at a new date, specified as Oct 30th (which is also today). So.... either I get it today, or I don't get it today. Guessing not and they haven't updated the new ship date.

Weird how some on here already got theirs...
Mine shipped today also. I never got an email about a rescheduled shipping date. I pre-ordered mine back in Aug.

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Mine shipped today also. I never got an email about a rescheduled shipping date. I pre-ordered mine back in Aug.
Very weird. Just got a notification it has shipped and is delivering tomorrow. I had preordered on 6/28.
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Ordered two days ago, no shipping notice .


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