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How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World Ultra HD Blu-ray Review



Nearly ten years after the first movie wowed audiences around the world, Hiccup and Toothless return to captivate fans with an adventure of a lifetime in DreamWorks Animation’s How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. Check out Ralph Potts’ review of the Ultra HD Blu-ray release.



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Audio/UHD Video total rating:
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96



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Studio and Year: Universal/DreamWorks - 2019
MPAA Rating: PG
Feature running time: 104 minutes
Genre: Family

Disc Format: BD-100
Encoding: HEVC
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 2160p/24

Audio Format(s): English Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1, Spanish/French Dolby Digital Plus 7.1
Subtitles: English SDH, Spanish, French
Starring: Voices of: Jay Baruchel, Gerard Butler, America Ferrer, T.J. Miller, Kristin Wiig, Craig Ferguson, Jonah Hill, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Cate Blancett, Kit Harrington, F. Murray Abraham
Written & Directed by: Dean DeBlois
Music by: John Powell
Region Code: A,B,C


Release Date: May 21, 2019


"The Friendship of a Lifetime"


Synopsis:

“What began as an unlikely friendship between an adolescent Viking and a fearsome Night Fury dragon has become an epic trilogy spanning their lives. In this next installment, the heroic pair finally fulfill their destinies; Hiccup (Jay Baruchel) as the village chief and ruler of Berk alongside Astrid (America Ferrera), and Toothless as the dragon leader of his own kind. As the Vikings and dragons of Berk face their darkest threat yet, the evil Grimmel (F. Murray Abraham), and Toothless discovers his soulmate, Light Fury – the bonds of Hiccup and Toothless' friendship are tested like never before.” – Universal Pictures Home Entertainment



My Take:

From DreamWorks Animation comes a surprising tale about growing up, finding the courage to face the unknown…and how nothing can ever train you to let go. What began as an unlikely friendship between an adolescent Viking and a fearsome Night Fury dragon has become an epic adventure spanning their lives. Now chief and ruler of Berk alongside Astrid, Hiccup has created a gloriously chaotic dragon utopia.

When the sudden appearance of female Light Fury coincides with the darkest threat their village has ever faced, Hiccup and Toothless must leave the only home they’ve known and journey to a hidden world thought only to exist in myth. As their true destines are revealed, dragon and rider will fight together—to the very ends of the Earth—to protect everything they’ve grown to treasure.


I am admittedly a fan of How to train your Dragon and its sequel How to Train your Dragon 2. Each is a big hit with my family and I have seen them numerous times. These are wonderfully entertaining animated films that never seems to lose their luster. When How to train your Dragon: The Hidden World was released earlier this year we saw it opening weekend. Like its predecessors the story is well developed and carries a positive message about friendship, family and loving devotion, while adding a spirited element of adventure that combine for a delightfully entertaining animated film that’s easy to get lost in as it warms the heart, tickles the funny bone and closes out the wonderful story of Hiccup and Toothless.

While there is no doubt that the How to train your Dragon films are primarily aimed at a specific target demographic, the themes of coming of age, familial estrangement, loss, and devoted friendship, elevate it, providing resonant tones that appeal to a broader audience. Having seen How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World twice now, I found myself every bit as caught up and reveling in the well spun and familiar humor, spirited adventure, superlative animation and, effecting emotion. I actually found this second viewing to be better than when I saw it in the theater.

The entire voice cast from the first two films reprise their roles and are every bit as fun. The production elements are simply amazing and add an enriching element that makes the experience all the better.

I can’t say enough about the How to train your Dragon film trilogy. The Hidden World is a befitting sendoff that builds upon the foundation of the first two installments. It’s an endearing family film that is sure to see plenty of replays in my home. I will miss the gang from Berk but, luckily I can visit them in my home theater again and again…




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Parental Guide:

The rating is for adventure action and some mild rude humor.


AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


UHD Presentation: 100
(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


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Dolby Atmos Rating: 92
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How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from Universal Pictures Home Entertainment featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video and lossless Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1 channel sound.

I watched the Blu-ray version of How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World first, so going into viewing the Ultra HD presentation it's 1080p video quality was still fresh in my mind. Digital animation tends to look quite good in high definition so I couldn't help but have preconceived notions regarding a positive viewing experience of this film in Ultra HD. This presentation is rendered from a 2K DI and up-converted to 4K.

In terms of resolution the differences are apparent as there is a noticeably finer texture in the minutia, especially in the characteristics/physical makeup of the characters. The first shots of Berk just after the opening sequence look stunning. This also applied to backgrounds, such as the structures, mountains, and interiors of the dwellings in Berk, which had excellent depth of field. The image has lots of pop as the expanded color gamut and emboldened dynamic range draw out the broad chromatic palate, and use of contrast. The scene where Hiccup and Astrid arrive at the Hidden World looked fantastic.

Whites are gradational and bright and the monochromatic grays, blues and black featured in the sequences that take place at night, or with limited lighting, such as the scene where the Light Fury teaches Hiccup how to use his flame bursts as camouflage, appears multi-staged and dimensional in appearance.

The application of HDR added a complimentary and defining element that proved eye-catching. The opening scene features a murky/foggy rescue where Hiccups flame sword looks dazzling against the light gray background. The encounter at Grimmel’s lair features fiery bursts and mini explosions that sparkle against the deep, shadowy backgrounds. The brief scene at the Hidden World is a showcase for HDR.

As good as HTTYD: The Hidden World looks in 1080p, the Ultra HD rendering takes it to another level, entirely, making for a visually engaging, faithful and, gratifying video presentation.



Dolby Atmos:

In listening to the Dolby Atmos surround mix I found it to be of the active variety that makes steady use of the platform. Its use of audio objects placed above is a mix of atmospherics, music, and discrete sound effects. This is done very well and creates a tangible level of immersion that coincides with the onscreen events nicely. The mix effectively places effects/sounds within the soundstage which place you within the scene, in turn, adding an enriching element that heightens the intended feeling like something is passing overhead, traveling through the room, or emanating from a specific location.

There are ample times where near field objects, and multi-staged atmospherics places you inside the scene as sounds rotate and revolve around the sound field from both above and at ear level. While this is not what I would regard as an aggressive Atmos mix, it is an active one, that complimented the source material and made for an entertaining listening experience.


For those not familiar with the details regarding Ultra HD Blu-ray you can refer to my article that includes some pertinent data on the subject. Here is the link:

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Blu-ray Video:


Video: 100
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Audio: 94
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How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World comes to Blu-ray Disc from Universal Pictures Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video and lossless Dolby Atoms/TrueHD 7.1 channel sound.

This is an excellent video presentation that boasts vibrant colors that are rich in saturation and bold in depth. Detail rendering is terrific as the video has three-dimensional quality with crisp texture and excellent fine articulation. Contrast is boldly applied, whites are crisp, and colors pop without distortion or loss of detail. Blacks are deep with excellent dynamic and enriching gradational highlights. This is a beautiful and pristine quality digital transfer that sparkles on Blu-ray.

The 7.1 channel Dolby TrueHD (Atmos core) soundtrack makes for a rewarding home theater experience. Dynamics are solid, providing the elements contained within the recording with definitive energy and potent impact. John Powell’s music score plays an integral role in this presentation and the entire surround platform is used to present the instrumental performance.

Dialog is crystalline with appreciable tonal inflection and non-sibilant vocal character. The auditory is rich in clarity and detail which allows the subtle environmental sounds in the recording to easily be heard. The mix creates an immersive surround sound experience that achieves excellent balance which correlates nicely with the events transpiring onscreen. Low frequency effects are solid and when called upon engage the room with palpable low-level bass. This is an involving surround sound mix that makes for an entertaining audio presentation. Be sure to give the volume knob a few extra clicks.


Bonus Features:
  • Disc 1: How to train Your Dragon: The Hidden World Ultra HD Blu-ray
  • Disc 2: How to train Your Dragon: The Hidden World Blu-ray
    • Alternate Opening with Intro by Writer/Director Dean DeBlois
    • DreamWorks Shorts:
    o Bilby – Directed by Liron Topaz, Pierre Perifel and JP Sans; produced by Jeff Hermann and Kelly Cooney Cilella. Threatened daily by the deadly residents and harsh environment of Australia’s Outback, a lonesome Bilby finds himself an unwitting protector, and unexpected friend, to a helpless (and quite adorable) baby bird.
    o Bird Karma – Directed by William Salazar and produced by Jeff Hermann, the beautifully artistic 2D short film Bird Karma tells a delightfully lyrical and fully unexpected tale of a long-legged bird’s journey of blissful joy, inescapable greed and the accidental discovery of the consequences when too much is not enough.
    • Deleted Scenes with Intros by Writer/Director Dean DeBlois
    • How to Voice Your Viking – Go behind the scenes with the cast as they record the Viking voices of HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD.
    • Creating an Epic Dragon Tale – Discover what filmmakers learned while crafting this epic dragon trilogy.
    • How I Learned from Dragons – The diverse cast of characters reveal why they think the dragon trilogy is so special.
    • Brave Wilderness Presents: Nature + Dragons = Awesome – Join Coyote Peterson, host of Brave Wilderness, as he explores what it takes to make the dragon’s characters come to life.
    • The Dragon Sheep Chronicles – Protecting sheep from the dragons of Berk is no easy task but Hiccup has a plan.
    • A Deck of Dragons – Observe four new dragons as Fishlegs unveils his original deck of dragon trading cards.
    • Growing Up with Dragons – After years of being with these characters, hear the lasting effects of the dragon trilogy from the filmmaker’s perspective.
    • The Evolving Character Design of Dragons – Cast and crew reveal what it was like to evolve not only the characters of HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD, but themselves as well.
    • Drawing Dragons – Get a glimpse of what goes in to designing a DreamWorks dragon.
    • Epic Villain – A different kind of villain, Grimmel brings great challenges to the village of Berk. Go behind the scenes as filmmakers breakdown this epic character.
    • Astrid’s Whole Dragon Trilogy in 60 Seconds – Hold on tight as Astrid sums up the whole dragon trilogy in a legendary 60 seconds.
    • Welcome to New Berk – With Hiccup as your guide, get a firsthand look at the updated Viking village of New Berk.
    • Feature Commentary with Writer/Director Dean DeBlois, Producer Bradford Lewis and Head of Character Animation Simon Otto
  • Digital Copy



Final Thoughts:

Like its predecessors How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World is high flying family entertainment that warms the heart, thanks to a strong script, excellent casting and apt direction from writer/director Dean DeBlois. DreamWorks doesn’t miss a beat with its stellar video presentation and rousing lossless sound (including a complimentary Dolby Atmos immersive listening track) that shines in Ultra HD and standard high definition on Blu-ray Disc.

Universal Pictures Home Entertainment includes a host of bonus material which includes DreamWorks animated short films, filmmaker commentary, a behind the scenes look and more. I thoroughly enjoyed the How to Train Your Dragon trilogy and found this final installment to be a fitting conclusion. How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World comes highly recommend for inclusion in your Blu-ray library.














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Thanks Ralph. I thoroughly enjoyed (and enjoy) the first two iterations - a perfect blend of humor, drama, action and peril and a heartwarming story. So looking forward to this being delivered next Tuesday.
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In listening to the Dolby Atmos surround mix...
Weren't the previous two HTTYD home video releases in DTS:X? Surprised they didn't stick to the format for consistency across the trilogy. Thanx for the excellent review.
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Weren't the previous two HTTYD home video releases in DTS:X? Surprised they didn't stick to the format for consistency across the trilogy. Thanx for the excellent review.


Greetings,

Yes, they were. Not sure about the change but, sound quality is excellent, so, it's all good.



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Didn't expect a rave review, for a second sequel. I'll have to pick this one up. Thanks.
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Thanks Ralph! Will definitely pick this up. Do you happen to know if there will be a 3d release? Loved the 3d on the first film.
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My preorder is on the way... 3 films, 3 steelbooks. I haven't watched any of them yet... but I am a fan of dragons. D&D stuff back in the day... WoW... and GoT.



Thanks for the review Ralph!
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The press release on this one didn't make mention of a 3D version Todd but, that isn't always indicative of the fact that there isn't one.


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Weren't the previous two HTTYD home video releases in DTS:X? Surprised they didn't stick to the format for consistency across the trilogy. Thanx for the excellent review.

The second film should have been released in Dolby Atmos as that too had a theatrical Atmos mix. Unfortunately, Universal dumbed it down to DTS: X 7.1.4 and didn't fix the anemic bass track.



Hopefully, we'll find out if this Atmos mix is locked at 7.1.4 or not once the lucky Trinnov owners get their hands on the disc.
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Thanks Ralph, do i have to watch the first two before watching this 3rd one for understanding the story? Thanks
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You haven't watched the first two, I envy you, you also get to watch them in 4K as well !


I'm sure Ralph will answer you but, I think you should watch the first two.


It's like skipping the first courses of a really great dinner just to get to the desert...


And I haven't had desert yet !
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Understanding of the story won't be a problem but, connecting to its characters, theme, humor and emotion is another matter. So, to answer your question, you should definitely see the first two.



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Another stellar review @Ralph Potts. Really enjoyed this one with my girls!
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Definitely wont miss this....didn't see it in the theater on purpose. These tend to make me.....well lets just say I need to be in my home to see it. Not sure why but they make me very emotional....it's kinda weird. Needless to say I hold the first two very close to my heart. I'm sure this one will be no different.
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One of the greatest moments in my theater journey was watching the final dragon battle of the original HTTYD. It was so creatively done, and the top-tier audio and video just made it stellar. Do the sequels have similar production elements from an A/V standpoint? If so, I will order them right now. Our 8 month old has started sleeping through the night, so the theater is getting regular use again. I need to play catchup on content.


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Thanks Ralph! Will definitely pick this up. Do you happen to know if there will be a 3d release? Loved the 3d on the first film.
It's available in 3D, just not distributed in North America.
...following Disney's lead on 3D support it would appear

Can be found on ebay, Zavvi or Amazon UK ...among several other sources that can often be found here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/196-3d-content/

I pre-ordered through Zavvi, it's listed as Region B, but my Oppo 203 is modded for region free

https://www.zavvi.com/blu-ray/how-to...ductsuggestion

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After having seen the first two movies, I have not seen Hidden World yet, though I intend to.

I think that anyone who enjoys these movies would equally like the series Dragons: Race to the Edge just as much. It is presently streaming on Netflix - as Netflix paid for many seasons of the series. It has just as much, IMO, appeal to a wide audience as the movies do. Heck, I'm nearly 60, and I am not ashamed to say that I enjoyed the series.

A mention of one specific character in this review makes me think that there is a substantial amount of backstory told in Race to the Edge that is wrapped up in Hidden World. It does sound like there is a bit of discontinuity in story line, but that is all I will say since any more might be spoilers.

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Httyd 3 3D

Thanks for the review @Ralph Potts !! The 3D version was released in Australia on April 10th, it took about 2 weeks to arrive.

The 3D was excellent and of the same great quality as the previous 2. There are many great 3D moments in the movie and worth importing for fans of the 3rd dimension
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One of the greatest moments in my theater journey was watching the final dragon battle of the original HTTYD. It was so creatively done, and the top-tier audio and video just made it stellar. Do the sequels have similar production elements from an A/V standpoint? If so, I will order them right now. Our 8 month old has started sleeping through the night, so the theater is getting regular use again. I need to play catchup on content.


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Once 3 joins HTTYD 1 and 2 on my shelf I foresee a Dragonfest in the very near future!
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^^^^^^^^^^

I just watched HTTYD #1 last night and plan to watch #2 tonight. It's been awhile since I've seen them so I thought it would be good to refresh my memory. It was as good as I remembered, including the awesome audio mix. My Denon AVR did a fantastic job with the Dolby Surround sending signals to my Atmos speakers and my subs loved producing the incredible LFE/bass. If I recall, the sequel (#2 ) is disappointing when it comes to the audio mix...for whatever reason Dreamworks chose to set a limit on the LFE/bass. According to Ralph's review of #3 the Dolby Atmos mix should be incredible.
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I picked up the 4K/UHD steelbooks of HTTYD 1 + 2 at BestBuy for $24 a couple months ago,
The DTS:X audio was excellent and with a little BassEQ the second one wasn't bad at all.



My part 3 4K Steelbook to finish off the trilogy just shipped today from BB and should arrive by Tuesday
We've already got BEQ settings for that one loaded up and ready to roll...(link to the graphs below)



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I picked up the 4K/UHD steelbooks of HTTYD 1 + 2 at BestBuy for $24 a couple months ago,
The DTS:X audio was excellent and with a little BassEQ the second one wasn't bad at all.



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Thanks. Can you pls advise how to do BassEQ? Thx
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Thanks. Can you pls advise how to do BassEQ? Thx
We started a dedicated thread just for BEQ last August,
and we currently have over 700 movie titles done already.
...so most of the work is already done.

You just need a miniDSP 2x4HD ($200)
...and couple mouse clicks on your laptop.

Thread: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post56610134
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Thanks. Can you pls advise how to do BassEQ? Thx
We started a dedicated thread just for BEQ last August,
and we currently have over 700 movie titles done already.
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You just need a miniDSP 2x4HD ($200)
...and couple mouse clicks on your laptop.

Thread: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post56610134
Thanks Man! Great jobs
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Nice review Ralph. Im very glad to see the high audio and video scores. Ive enjoyed the other two movies quite a bit; the first one having such an incredible audio mix. I have the 3D version preordered from the UK. Cant wait!

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Truly sick of the studios screwing US viewers out of a 3D release.
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Bought this today, watched it tonight.

Impressive. Both from an A/V aspect and for its story line.

Not upbeat in its view of humanity, though.
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