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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Ultra HD Blu-ray Review



The surviving members of the resistance face the First Order once again, and the legendary conflict between the Jedi and the Sith reaches its peak bringing the Skywalker saga to its end. Ralph Potts reviews the Ultra HD Blu-ray release of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker from Disney Home Entertainment.



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95



Details:

Studio and Year: Disney - 2019
MPAA Rating: PG-13
Feature running time: 142 minutes
Genre: Sci-Fi/Adventure

Disc Format: BD-66
Encoding: HEVC
Video Aspect: 2.39:1
Resolution: 2160p/24

Audio Format(s): English Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1, Spanish/French Dolby Digital Plus 7.1
Subtitles: English SDH, Spanish, French
Starring: Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Billy Dee Williams, Domnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Naomi Ackie, Anthony Daniels, Richard E. Grant, Keri Russell, Lupita Nyong’O, Joonas Suotamo, Ian McDiarmid
Directed by: J.J. Abrams
Written by: J.J. Abrams, Chris Terrio
Music by: John Williams
Region Code: A,B,C


Release Date: March 31, 2020


"The Saga Concludes"


Synopsis:

“The surviving members of the resistance face the First Order once again, and the legendary conflict between the Jedi and the Sith reaches its peak bringing the Skywalker saga to its end.” – Disney Home Entertainment.


My Take:

In Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker the battle between the Jedi and the Sith comes to a thrilling conclusion in this final chapter of the Skywalker Saga. A year following the events of The Last Jedi, the remaining members of the Resistance are forced to confront their past while taking on the First Order one more time.

I thought that I would begin with some of my comments from my review of [i]Star Wars: The Last Jedi:

I, like many of you reading this am a Star Wars fan, with a particular love of Episodes IV, V, VI. When it was first announced that a new Star Wars film (The Force Awakens) was in the works I had mixed feelings, until I saw the first trailer. Those mixed feelings were replaced with eager anticipation. On December 29th 2015 I took Star Wars: The Force Awakens in at my local Cineplex. Prior to seeing it I heard minor complaints/rumblings that the film felt like a rehashing of Episode IV. My feeling is that with the direction taken with The Force Awakens, it was essential to establish a definitive correlation between the iconography and thematic foundation of Star Wars (particularly episode IV) and the development of the progression of this next generation.

As I sat and watched The Last Jedi with my wife and son, who, is a SW fan, I found myself somewhat perplexed at what appeared to be the film’s primary plot point. It revolved around a group of the Resistance being pursued by a fleet of heavily armed ships from the First Order, and the deployment of two Resistance members, whose objective is to obtain a code breaker, and return with him to assist with disabling the First Order Fleet’s primary weapon, which is aboard their main ship.

In the meantime, the Resistance vessels, which are dangerously low on fuel, have to maintain just enough distance to reduce the effectiveness of the First Order’s cannon volleys on their defense shields. The remaining subplots involve Rey and Luke Skywalker, coming to terms with the status of the Jedi, Rey and Kylo, their place in the ongoing conflict, and what their futures look like, and lastly, the aforementioned exploits of Resistance members, Finn, and newcomer Rose, as they struggle to stave off the impending destruction of the Resistance Fleet, by locating and code breaker.

I really wanted to sit back and settle in for an enjoyable fantasy adventure. I can be forgiving of small narrative shortcomings, but, when it comes to Star Wars, there needs to be enough meat on the bone to bind the elements to the iconic status of the franchise. We get some of that here, but, not enough. The primary plot and its execution is not only thin, but, a little silly. I thought that the mystery surrounding Supreme Leader Snoke in TFA, was effectual but, that isn’t fleshed out at all. Given his status and abilities, there needed to be more development behind not only him, but, the First Order. Nope. After how TFA ended, I looked forward to the establishment of the relationship between Luke and Rey. That didn’t happen, and, to say that Luke Skywalker was drawn as a shell of his former self would an understatement. His reasons for this are stated clearly enough, but, doesn’t hold water.

I continue to like Poe, Finn, BB-8, and Rey. I really liked newcomer Vice Admiral Holdo (played very well by Laura Dern), and Rose, but, wasn’t crazy about the proposed relationship between she and Finn. We’ll have to see about that, I suppose. I don’t know, I didn’t dislike The Last Jedi but, there were things ABOUT it, that didn’t sit right, making it feel less traditional than any of the Star Wars films in the franchise. I was very curious to see how I would feel after a second viewing. My feelings haven’t changed. Overall, I enjoyed the moments that felt Star Wars like, and it is my hope that things get back on track.


So, enter Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. As with the other two films in this series I took it in at the theater with my wife and son. Co-writer/director J.J. Abrams is at the helm which gave me some confidence that perhaps things would get back on track. And, for better or worse, they did. By that I mean it returned to more of a Star Wars like feel, bringing the iconic Skywalker storyline to conclusion in predominantly good fashion. It’s by no means a complete or wholly befitting sendoff but, accomplishing that to that level would require lots more time in order to bring all of the narrative threads together.

I think in general to does what it sets out to do and that’s to allow us to tick certain boxes via a narrative that brims with familiar elements set to a formulaic context that is what we have all seen from Star Wars. The question is, does it get old? I don’t know, for me, it doesn’t, not really. The tension surrounding Kylo and Rey is what sparks the film’s essence. The rest of it revolves around that like planets orbiting the sun. Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver OWN these characters and their handling of them is what makes the film fun to watch.

I personally liked the ending of Stars Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. No, every T isn’t crossed and every I isn’t dotted but, I found myself engaged, rooting for the outcome that I got and, didn’t walk away feeling let down. As I watched it for the second time my feeling didn’t change. I am glad that the series has come to a close and am amazed at how many years have passed since I sat in the theater at 13 years old and was awestruck by Episode IV which is where it all began. I will be ready for whatever comes next and hope that it offers the little kid in me the same feeling that it did in 1977. Thanks for the memories.


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The rating is for sci-fi violence and action.


AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100/EXCELLENT = 83-91/GOOD = 74-82/AVERAGE = 65-73/BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


UHD Presentation: 96
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Dolby Atmos Rating: 94
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker comes to Ultra HD Blu-ray from Disney Home Entertainment featuring 2160pHEVC encoded video and lossless Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1 channel sound.

For its presentation in Ultra HD Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker was rendered from 35/65 MM film sources and finished on a 4K DI. The 1080p transfer looks solid and this Ultra HD rendering takes it up a notch with a discernible increase in detail, color depth, and emboldened highlights, both light and dark. The film has a series of fiery explosions, streaming/cascading light and mixed visual elements, that look terrific.

This is primarily a dark film and its low-level sequences had excellent depth and dimension. Blacks are rich, and defining, and the rendering of shadow detail in most respects, is excellent. The film’s opening sequence with Kylo Ren provides a glimpse of what lies instore. Following that, there are a host of visuals that incorporate elements of brilliant light, such as the speeder chase during the festival, Rey and Kylo’s exchange when he is on Kajimi and she is in his quarters on the star destroyer, the arching/flashing lights that illuminated streets/alleyways of the settlement on Kajimi, or the HDR showcase during the extended battle, both in the skies above and below, in the Sith throne room, during the finale, which featured specular highlights that were bright enough that I found myself blinking is response to them. The use of shadows mixed with light, such as in the labyrinth below the quicksand, looked very natural as well.

The film utilizes varying chromatic schemes, incorporating splashes of vivid color (the aforementioned festival for example), that appears faithfully reproduced in Ultra HD. This isn’t a razor-sharp presentation but, overall resolution is excellent. Close ups revealing plenty of fine detail and textures that generally imparted a reach out and touch aesthetic.

Comparing this presentation to the 1080p rendering I would say that the Blu-ray appears slightly flatter. Whereas the Ultra HD’s vivid colors, enriching contrast and vibrant dynamic range elevate it to a cut above, making for a distinctive improvement that discerning viewers can appreciate.


Dolby Atmos:

In listening to the Dolby Atmos surround mix I found it to be of the active variety, which was welcomed. Its use of audio objects placed above is comprised of a mix of atmospherics, panning fills and discrete sounds. This is done to good effect when implemented and creates an enriching level of immersion that coincides with the onscreen events nicely. Nearfield sound placement is noteworthy, providing an involving listening experience that emboldens the "being there" effect when applied.

During the various sequences where the sci-fic action ramps up, such as in the aforementioned speeder chase, or Rey taking the skimmer over rough seas to the Death Star wreckage, followed by what occurred both within and just after, the track features environmental cues and discrete sound effects that extend the soundstage. Everything comes together in the large set piece in the finale, where Rey faces her destiny and the Rebellion takes on the massive Star Destroyer fleet. There are a host of explosions, nearfield pans, and weapon fire that rotate around the soundstage, shifting overhead, passing by at ear level and coming directly at the listening position. It all makes for a resplendent blend of room traversing, and well-balanced sound. I had a great time with this superb audio mix.

NOTE: I did find that a minor increase in volume, approximately 4db, was required to derive the most from it. Once there, it kicked nicely with no signs of dynamic compression or anemic bass. Speaking of which, I ran direct comparisons to several sequences between the Atmos track and DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio track and found that the Atmos track hit harder and deeper.


For those not familiar with the details regarding Ultra HD Blu-ray you can refer to my article that includes some pertinent data on the subject. Here is the link:

Ultra HD Blu-ray Has Come to AVS Forum Blu-ray Reviews


Blu-ray Video:


Video: 92
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Audio: 96
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  • DSU/DTS Neural:X Rating * (non-rated element): NA



Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker comes to Blu-ray Disc from Disney Home Entertainment featuring 1080p AVC encoded video and lossless DTS-HD 5.1 Master Audio sound.

This film essentially utilizes two distinct visual styles to convey its thematic content. One makes use of darker/monochromatic color schemes, while the other features richer contrast and vibrant colors emboldened by warm accents. Each provides the look that the filmmakers strove for to drive the narrative components. Close ups reveal crisp definition and perceptible detail that reveals the presence of fine detail, including the minutia visible in the costumes and make-up worn by the members of the cast. The texture on the surfaces of objects is just as defining which give them visibly apparent structure and lifelike quality. Black levels are slightly elevated, leaving only the darkest scenes lacking in dimension and, contrast is spot on which delivers bright punchy whites and appreciable depth of field when mixed light/dark elements are present onscreen. The video has a noticeably clean and pristine quality that appears devoid of video related anomalies and artifacts.

I had high hopes for this soundtrack on Blu-ray, especially given the disappointing tracks on some of the recent home video release from Disney. I am happy to report that this 5.1 channel DTS-HD Master Audio/Dolby TrueHD (Atmos core) presentation didn’t disappoint, and essentially matched what I heard in the theater. This lossless soundtrack is dynamically supported which accents the active nature of the sound design. Dialog has excellent presence with clear, defining vocal character and noteworthy room penetration. The mix makes involving use of the surround channels as multi-layered sound effects are appropriately placed within the soundfield so that they coincide with the events transpiring onscreen.

The surround mix utilizes the subwoofer to accentuate the action-based sequences which feature a palpable and occasionally room shaking low end. Throughout the presentation the quality of the bass is excellent, as it fills the room with clean, resonating, low frequency detail.

* Note: As with other recent Disney releases on Blu-ray I found that I needed to set playback at volumes above where I normally listen. In this case I found it to be less of an increase, only requiring a 4db boost. Once there, it played back as expected with no signs of unwanted dynamic compression, allowing me to become immersed in the film without distraction. Let’s hope this trend continues.


Bonus Features:
  • Disc 1: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Ultra HD Blu-ray
  • Disc 2: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Blu-ray
    • The Skywalker Legacy – The story lives forever in this feature-length documentary that charts the making of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.
    • Pasaana Pursuit: Creating the Speeder Chase – Dive into the making of the movie’s epic landspeeder chase and discover how this spectacular sequence was brought to the screen.
    • Aliens in the Desert – See what it took to create the Pasaana desert scenes, from the sheer scale and complexity of the shoot to its colorful details.
    • D-O: Key to the Past – Explore the ship that connects Rey to the mystery of her missing parents and get to know the galaxy’s newest, irresistible droid.
    • Warwick & Son – Warwick Davis, who played Wicket in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi, dons the Ewok costume once more; this time joined by his son Harrison.
    • Cast of Creatures – The team behind the film’s memorable creatures reveal the puppetry, makeup, prosthetics and digital magic that bring them to life!
  • Digital Code



Final Thoughts:

Co-written and Directed by J.J. Abrams Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is the ninth and final episode in the iconic Skywalker film series. While not a thoroughly gratifying film that will appeal to all series fans, it capably closes out the final chapter with ample heart and entertaining action/drama. It comes to Blu-ray in this Ultimate Collector’s Edition from Disney Home Entertainment featuring terrific Ultra HD video, excellent lossless surround sound, including an involving Dolby Atmos immersive listening experience and a fan friendly supplemental package that is worth exploring. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker looks and sound great on Blu-ray and deserves a place in the collections of series fans.











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"I did find that a minor increase in volume, approximately 4db, was required to derive the most from it. Once there, it kicked nicely with no signs of dynamic compression or anemic bass"

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While I didn't dislike this film unlike TLJ in fact if this was some sort of stand alone feature it would been just fine with me but since this was part of a saga and a final episode at that, that is where things really fell apart.
Screen Crush did a really good and short analysis of this with a pseudo "interview with JJ [sock puppet] that flashes out nicely of this films problems.


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I'm a massive fan of this movie. For me, it was perfect, and tops my rankings for star wars, right alongside, but even slightly better than, The Force Awakens. It's just a fantastically exciting adventure, with a wonderful conclusion to the Rey/Ben arc, that felt satisfying to me. The main villain felt threatening, and the visuals and sound design were incredible. I've heard from some sources that the Atmos mix doesn't match what we heard at theaters, which would be disappointing if true, because it was truly one of the best sounding movies I've ever heard. Your review seems to suggest this isn't lost when you increase volume. I hope you're correct. It sounds like the UHD presentation is just as good as The Force Awakens was on Disney+, but of course with the added benefit of higher bit rate.

Looking forward to this! I preordered the Walmart edition. Hopefully they can get it to me on time! I have also preordered the 3D edition from the UK, as well as The Force Awakens and Rogue One UHDs from Amazon (the only other ones in the series worth owning imo, based on how they looked on Disney+)

This was my favorite movie of 2019, so I can't wait to watch it again in UHD!

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I didn’t hate Rise of Skywalker as much as the internet did but it did feel a bit clumsy, stuffed with too much plot, and was trying too hard to retcon the Last Jedi. Abrams should have just taken the themes from the prior movie and expanded on them. My biggest problem with this movie (and the sequel trilogy writ large) is that they feel disjointed and it’s obvious that Disney did not have an overall blueprint and made things up as they went along. Also, hiring three different filmmakers was a mistake and they should have hired just one to keep a consistent tone.

One small note on the audio. On my grading scale, if I have to turn up the volume at or above reference to get the full effect, that should be an automatic 10 point deduction. Therefore, no Disney 4K movie would ever get above a 90 from me.
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I went in with low expectations, but was pleasantly surprised with this Skywalker finale. By far from perfect, but no SW films are. Best of the 3 imo.

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Thanks for the review Ralph. I didn't care too much for TLJ but both my wife and I really enjoyed Rise of Skywalker. It wasnt perfect but I thought all in all they did a good job. Im relieved to hear that the mix is good to go.
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Saw it, liked it a great deal and hopefully the Skywalker Saga box set will be at my local Best Buy on March 31st for curbside pickup. BB has Rogue One 4k listed but there's still no ability to pre-order it so that one is coming (again hopefully) from Amazon.
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it’s obvious that Disney did not have an overall blueprint and made things up as they went along.
So, just like George Lucas with the Original Trilogy?

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Saw it, liked it a great deal and hopefully the Skywalker Saga box set will be at my local Best Buy on March 31st for curbside pickup. BB has Rogue One 4k listed but there's still no ability to pre-order it so that one is coming (again hopefully) from Amazon.
I suppose that the "saga" set won't include an option to show the original theatrical versions of episodes IV-VI?

I'm not the sort of fan that thinks they're canonical, and that any changes are blasphemous. However, Lucas' tinkering was usually worse than useless.
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I'm not the sort of fan that thinks they're canonical, and that any changes are blasphemous. However, Lucas' tinkering was usually worse than useless.
Those editions of the movies simply do not exist in any official sense. Lucas replaced the original masters. There are of course fan communities who have worked hard to restore them as best as possible, but those aren't perfect either.

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Great Review, Ralph!

I actually liked this movie better than the previous two as it was pretty much from action scene to action scene. And I definitely agree on the bass as it rumbled and pummeled me throughout... although I was cheating and used BEQ to boost it to epic Force proportions!


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Those editions of the movies simply do not exist in any official sense.
I have them on DVD and got them from Walmart as they were limited editions. They came with the original theatrical releases, the restored updated versions and different graphic novels with each film of the original trilogy...


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It's interesting to me to see just how wildly folks' estimations of these last three films vary. I think it's because Lucas' storytelling left enough to the imagination that each person ends up seeing different elements of the originals as more important than others.

In any case, I liked this film well enough. The Kylo/Rey relationship was handled fantastically. That said, the world needs a bigger intensifier to describe the over-the-top climax. There was one point in particular where a certain character was doing a certain thing with electrical magic, and I looked over at my friend in the theater and said, "Ok, that's about enough of that."
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My adult son and I saw it at a Dolby Cinema (AMC Theaters) and we enjoyed it.

I’ve never found any of the SW movies to be examples of acting or plot excellence, and this movie was similarly lacking. However, it was worth the time and money spent, and I look forward to owning and viewing the 4K disc in my home theater.
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I suppose that the "saga" set won't include an option to show the original theatrical versions of episodes IV-VI?

I'm not the sort of fan that thinks they're canonical, and that any changes are blasphemous. However, Lucas' tinkering was usually worse than useless.
I've never really had a problem with a film's creator re-doing or digitally enhancing certain scenes. The newer version of the original Death Star exploding in SW IV looked very good to me. I figure that if George Lucas wants to enhance the visual effects in movies that he has sunk his heart and soul (and money) into, he has that right. If certain devoted fans don't like it they can stick with the DVD versions and not buy the Blu-rays or the upcoming 4Ks. One of the few exceptions was when Spielberg, during the bicycle chase towards the end of ET, substituted radios for the racked shotguns that the federal agents were holding at the roadblock. I don't think that Spielberg should have bowed to pressure to make the scene less "frightening" for the kiddies. It looked pretty odd in some ways since the agents were armed.
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So, just like George Lucas with the Original Trilogy?

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I have them on DVD and got them from Walmart as they were limited editions. They came with the original theatrical releases, the restored updated versions and different graphic novels with each film of the original trilogy...

Yeah I believed they used old low quality scans for those releases. Like, I believe even the laserdiscs may be better quality.

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Yeah I believed they used old low quality scans for those releases. Like, I believe even the laserdiscs may be better quality.

So you go from claiming they don't exist in any official sense to denigrating them as "old low quality" scans. Basically you'll do everything you can to claim LucasFilm can do no good when it comes to Star Wars.

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Curious to see this. Really enjoyed Force Awakens and have watched it many times. The second film in this latest trio was pretty bad IMO and my one time at the theater viewing was plenty as I never even rented it on blu. In light of all that, I'm curious to see what I think of this one.
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So you go from claiming they don't exist in any official sense to denigrating them as "old low quality" scans. Basically you'll do everything you can to claim LucasFilm can do no good when it comes to Star Wars.
Huh? No I'd love to see the original theatrical versions. I'm saying Lucasfilm hasn't kept any of the masters of those. They replaced them with the special editions.

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I agree Ralph. While I would have liked to have seen a more coherent narrative for the last three films, it was loads better than The Last Jedi, which I absolutely hated with a passion.

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I think I'm probably an odd one out in that I loved both The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker. That being said, Rise of Skywalker was better. TLJ was more original in its ideas, and was effective at subversion of expectation, but those twists on the narrative never felt wholly satisfying (although I loved the way Luke was handled), and the whole casino side plot felt like a waste of time, although it added action/adventure and giving Finn more sympathy for the Resistance cause.

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I've never really had a problem with a film's creator re-doing or digitally enhancing certain scenes. The newer version of the original Death Star exploding in SW IV looked very good to me. I figure that if George Lucas wants to enhance the visual effects in movies that he has sunk his heart and soul (and money) into, he has that right. If certain devoted fans don't like it they can stick with the DVD versions and not buy the Blu-rays or the upcoming 4Ks. One of the few exceptions was when Spielberg, during the bicycle chase towards the end of ET, substituted radios for the racked shotguns that the federal agents were holding at the roadblock. I don't think that Spielberg should have bowed to pressure to make the scene less "frightening" for the kiddies. It looked pretty odd in some ways since the agents were armed.
I don't object to an effort to "enhance" the movies, per se. I'm no fan, and no purist. But, for example, the scene in Episode IV where Han Solo has a chat with Jabba the Hutt has a net negative value (IMHO). It was derived from sweepings from the cutting room floor, where a human Jabba was digitally replaced with the repulsive alien. It also made the dialog with "Greedo" partly redundant.

I don't understand Lucas' motives in tweaking the films. Maybe I will after I've made my first billion dollars.
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So you go from claiming they don't exist in any official sense to denigrating them as "old low quality" scans. Basically you'll do everything you can to claim LucasFilm can do no good when it comes to Star Wars.
This seems uncalled for.
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I actually liked this more than most as well. I think without the internet, people wouldn't have piled on so hard. Don't get me wrong, it has moments where it really annoys me (The fake out death scene near the beginning and the whole C3PO memory thing) but as a whole I thought it wrapped up things pretty well and a few things that happened I really enjoyed.

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There are two types of Star Wars fans: 1) those who love the Jedi vs Sith philosophical debates; 2) those who love the spaceships that go shoot-shoot.

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The digital version with Dolby Vision looks really good. I thought Force Awakens looked a little better (Disney+) but these films are a nice showcase for the DV format.

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The prequel trilogy stunk worse than the 300 yards of sewage Andy Dufresne crawled through to escape Shawshank. It is evidence of what happens when a tyrant like Lucas makes tons of casting, writing, and narrative mistakes and refused to hear or take any outside input.

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The sequels are complete rubbish. Worst of the 9 by far. The prequels aren't obviously cinematic gold either but I'll take narrative consistency over flashly surface material like these sequels which is really all they have to offer according to these comments.
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The prequel trilogy stunk worse than the 300 yards of sewage Andy Dufresne crawled through to escape Shawshank. It is evidence of what happens when a tyrant like Lucas makes tons of casting, writing, and narrative mistakes and refused to hear or take any outside input.

But I’️ll give Lucas credit for one thing. Because he was in control of the entire operation, at least the prequels has some tonal and narrative consistency which the sequels did not. But the sequels are miles better than Lucas’️s prequel atrocities which should have gotten him tried before the Hague.
The sequels are complete rubbish. Worst of the 9 by far. The prequels aren't obviously cinematic gold either but I'll take narrative consistency over flashly surface material like these sequels which is really all they have to offer according to these comments.
By the standards you're using, the original three don't hold up either.

The sequels are far better than the prequels, which are basically spliced local insurance company commercials. Bad dialog, horrible acting, and no point.

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Very exited to pick this up, sounds like a buy for sure. Ralph I noticed you replaced your Cantons with SVS’s, without trying to derail the thread just wondering how you like em.

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