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My CNC guy loved the suggestion and immediately bought the Oneida. I told him he should definitely buy the canister filter as well so he doesn't have any long-term problems or feel obligated to wear a mask all the time. Thanks again for the suggestion.
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The following weekend the theater is going on a 6-8 week hiatus and loaded with all the building materials, furniture, etc. while I finish the main part of the basement. This was always part of the plan.
Like a kick in the nuts. What will I do at work for two months? Oh well the 24s look awesome. Please take lots of pics of how those sub enclosures go together. I've never been so interested in an mdf box before...
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I'm not concerned. If I hired professional contractors to build my room from scratch like Dave did, it would have been complete long before the Savoy. Dave just insulated, painted, hung a few acoustic treatments and helped put together a couple of MBMs...and yet *HE* built the theater. I could also dredge up several hundred e-mails exchanged as I took time out from my construction to help him with his room design. Oh, snap!

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I guess we can move on to drywalling now.
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Paint??? I made the kids paint!
Ah yes...and your wife insulated...

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Like a kick in the nuts. What will I do at work for two months? Oh well the 24s look awesome. Please take lots of pics of how those sub enclosures go together. I've never been so interested in an mdf box before...
Don't worry, now the room dimensions are finalized I will be working on finalizing the aesthetic, so renders of the room are in your future thread while I figure things out. I'm also going to send out the vintage lock set I bought for refurbishment....and BUILDING OUT THE RACKS since they are in the main part of the basement. I have a bunch of AV gear getting installed in the basement so I will be happy to share that as well. And don't forget the visit to Kris Barber's house to pick up my new Procella P815-AMP speakers and the Lumonyx for my columns. In other words, more than enough to keep entertained while construction shifts to the rest of the basement. I promised my wife she would have the basement available by the start of summer so she and the kids can camp out in the coolest part of the house and have direct access to outside with the walk-out basement. Plus it gets rid of 99% of the clutter I have been dealing with in terms of cabinets, furniture, construction materials, etc....and it will be nice to use when I need a break!

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I guess we can move on to drywalling now.
Agreed! Being delivered Thursday afternoon. I'm going to try and install as much as I can between delivery and Saturday morning when the cavalry shows up to help me finish the job!
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I promised my wife she would have the basement available by the start of summer so she and the kids can camp out in the coolest part of the house and have direct access to outside with the walk-out basement. Plus it gets rid of 99% of the clutter I have been dealing with in terms of cabinets, furniture, construction materials, etc....and it will be nice to use when I need a break!
Fair enough.

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Don't worry, now the room dimensions are finalized I will be working on finalizing the aesthetic, so renders of the room are in your future thread while I figure things out. I'm also going to send out the vintage lock set I bought for refurbishment....and BUILDING OUT THE RACKS since they are in the main part of the basement. I have a bunch of AV gear getting installed in the basement so I will be happy to share that as well. And don't forget the visit to Kris Barber's house to pick up my new Procella P815-AMP speakers and the Lumonyx for my columns. In other words, more than enough to keep entertained while construction shifts to the rest of the basement.
This is acceptable.
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Those 24" subs will be pretty insane, can't wait to see them assembled.

Out of curiosity, how come you picked 1.5" MDF over 1.5" or even 2" plywood?

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Those 24" subs will be pretty insane, can't wait to see them assembled.

Out of curiosity, how come you picked 1.5" MDF over 1.5" or even 2" plywood?
Every time I go down to the basement and see the raw sub drivers I am shocked with how large they are. Pictures don't do any justice to their sheer size. And I can't wait to see them come together either!!

The 1.5" MDF was a found deal as the pieces were offcuts from a custom furniture guy. He sat on them for a couple years and finally decided to clean house. At $10 per offcut ($50 per box), I jumped on it. I'm not sure what approach I would have used if I was starting from scratch....probably Baltic Birch to your point for that 'little extra' of box strength.
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Every time I go down to the basement and see the raw sub drivers I am shocked with how large they are. Pictures don't do any justice to their shear size. And I can't wait to see them come together either!!

The 1.5" MDF was a found deal as the pieces were offcuts from a custom furniture guy. He sat on them for a couple years and finally decided to clean house. At $10 per offcut ($50 per box), I jumped on it. I'm not sure what approach I would have used if I was starting from scratch....probably Baltic Birch to your point for that little extra of box strength.
At that price it was a steal. Baltic Birch would have been a lot more in similar thickness.

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County inspector just left. He APPROVED the theater room to be closed up with drywall! WOOT!

Drywall delivery was pushed from yesterday to today because of all the intense thunderstorms here in the South. They should be by shortly with the delivery.

Volunteer labor from a neighbor and @24Changer confirmed, so we are set to go for tomorrow morning. I'm going to see what I can do on my own tonight and very early tomorrow morning to save time tomorrow when the full crew is here and give us the best chance to finish in one day. I I thoroughly cleaned my Green Glue gun and lubricated with WD40 so there won't be any hiccups with the applicator. I have 2 full five gallon pails of Green Glue plus a bit of extra in a third pail which should be plenty even if I start to get a bit liberal with the application.

I'm going to rig up my GoPro (or iPhone) to shoot a time lapse video of the drywall installation.

Have a good weekend everyone!
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The 1.5" MDF was a found deal as the pieces were offcuts from a custom furniture guy. He sat on them for a couple years and finally decided to clean house. At $10 per offcut ($50 per box), I jumped on it. I'm not sure what approach I would have used if I was starting from scratch....probably Baltic Birch to your point for that 'little extra' of box strength.
Do you still hear from Fusick? Still seems odd not to have him on the forum.

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County inspector just left and APPROVED the theater room to be closed up with drywall! WOOT!

Drywall delivery was pushed from yesterday to today because of all the intense thunderstorms here in the South. They should be by shortly with the delivery.
Not sure why I had it in my head you were from the Northeast. I'm in GA, right at the TN line. Storms have been crazy. A co-worker had $5400 in hail damage to his car from the storms.
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County inspector just left and APPROVED the theater room to be closed up with drywall! WOOT!

Drywall delivery was pushed from yesterday to today because of all the intense thunderstorms here in the South. They should be by shortly with the delivery.

Volunteer labor from a neighbor and @24Changer confirmed, so we are set to go for tomorrow morning. I'm going to see what I can do on my own tonight and very early tomorrow morning to save time tomorrow when the full crew is here and give us the best chance to finish in one day. If I thoroughly cleaned my Green Glue gun and lubricated with WD40 so there are no hiccups with the applicator. I have 2 full five gallon pails of Green Glue plus a bit of extra in a third pail which should be plenty even if I start to get a bit liberal with the application.

I'm going to rig up my GoPro (or iPhone) to shoot a time lapse video of the drywall installation.

Have a good weekend everyone!
Wish I was able to make it this weekend to help with drywall. Looks like you will have lots of fun over the weekend! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

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OK. Not to toss a subwoofer question out there, but is there a "threshold" in size where MDF shouldn't be used for subwoofer construction, or are you saying that it should never be used? There are a LOT of MDF subwoofers out there, but nothing in the realm of a 24" woofer one, usually they top out around the 12" woofer range.

Just wondering. I'm not building a sub any time soon, but thought that I would ask.
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Sad news to report....drywall installation had to be cancelled due to our oldest having a stomach bug. Started yesterday afternoon and hit again just after 1AM last night. All I have to say is thank God for a second set of bedding and a Hoover SteamVac to address the carpeting. My wife was committed to volunteering for today's Easter Egg hunt and luncheon at our church and was going to take both kids. Now she has one with her and I have the sick kid here at the house. Whatever it is seems to have passed, but we're all a bit tired this morning, that's for sure.
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We're Facebook friends, also he's active on the group HTE, a moderator like me.
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OK. Not to toss a subwoofer question out there, but is there a "threshold" in size where MDF shouldn't be used for subwoofer construction, or are you saying that it should never be used? There are a LOT of MDF subwoofers out there, but nothing in the realm of a 24" woofer one, usually they top out around the 12" woofer range.

Just wondering. I'm not building a sub any time soon, but thought that I would ask.
It's more so proper internal bracing, both my 15" and 18" sealed are MDF.
My work friends 18" ported is MDF.

These 24" beasts take bracing to the next level.
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Sad news to report....drywall installation had to be cancelled due to our oldest having a stomach bug. Started yesterday afternoon and hit again just after 1AM last night. All I have to say is thank God for a second set of bedding and a Hoover SteamVac to address the carpeting. My wife was committed to volunteering for today's Easter Egg hunt and luncheon at our church and was going to take both kids. Now she has one with her and I have the sick kid here at the house. Whatever it is seems to have passed, but we're all a bit tired this morning, that's for sure.
Oh no! Hope your oldest gets well. And hope the rest of the family does not catch it.

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Sad news to report....drywall installation had to be cancelled due to our oldest having a stomach bug. Started yesterday afternoon and hit again just after 1AM last night. All I have to say is thank God for a second set of bedding and a Hoover SteamVac to address the carpeting. My wife was committed to volunteering for today's Easter Egg hunt and luncheon at our church and was going to take both kids. Now she has one with her and I have the sick kid here at the house. Whatever it is seems to have passed, but we're all a bit tired this morning, that's for sure.
Sorry to hear that I know you were looking forward to closing up. But family comes first even over home theater builds - and those stomach bugs are the worst to deal with. They've been going around with regularity here in Alabama. Wish I didn't have to work all the damn time or I'd come help. Maybe my lottery tickets will come through...
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Do you still hear from Fusick? Still seems odd not to have him on the forum.
Believe it or not, I actually dropped by to see Mfusick's theater in-person a couple weeks ago. Looks like it's been Loganed....


He's got plenty to do with trying to get his family back into the house. I was there the day before drywall in the main part of the house, so the theater was being used as storage.

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OK. Not to toss a subwoofer question out there, but is there a "threshold" in size where MDF shouldn't be used for subwoofer construction, or are you saying that it should never be used? There are a LOT of MDF subwoofers out there, but nothing in the realm of a 24" woofer one, usually they top out around the 12" woofer range.

Just wondering. I'm not building a sub any time soon, but thought that I would ask.
I'm certainly not a sub design guru, but from my understanding, MDF is more acoustically inert than other materials. I'm not sure anything short of sensitive instrumentation could clearly hear the difference.

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These 24" beasts take bracing to the next level.
Awesome work.
All design credit to @baniels who modified his own 24" sub design to match my needs.

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Sorry to hear that I know you were looking forward to closing up. But family comes first even over home theater builds
Thanks to all for the well-wishes. In typical kid fashion, he was back on his feet by Sunday, though he was still a bit cranky!!
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County inspector just left. He APPROVED the theater room to be closed up with drywall! WOOT!
Funny enough, my rough-in inspection happened Friday, and I passed it at about 0930 CDT. Such a good feeling that they will be out of my business for a while. Luckily enough, in my area, I apparently don't need to do an insulation inspection, or drywall inspection. So from rough-in, I go straight to final (with a bit of work in between). Just thought it was funny we got approved probably within the same hour for our theaters.
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Really? A *month* Tim?? Did I miss something? What's going on? I know you were going to re-direct a bit, but this is sheer madness!
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Really? A *month* Tim?? Did I miss something? What's going on? I know you were going to re-direct a bit, but this is sheer madness!
It gets worse....He said six to eight weeks! But he's finishing the rest of the basement in that time so once he gets back going sounds like we will get some serious progress. It's been a tough month at work - I'm actually having to work because there's no more Stonewater discussion.
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I've had quite a bit on my plate for the last 7 weeks. I have some updates, but will provide you with this cryptic update of what I was doing yesterday which was tangentially theater related.

This is a real pic I took with my iPhone....
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You won the lottery. You're picking out your new ride, while Keith Yates and his crew are ripping out all your old stuff and starting again from scratch?
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The chrome plating on that grill was done by the same folks who are doing some metalwork for the theater. (Yes?)
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You simply relish the thought of being a theater tease... (Yes??)
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I'm voting lottery...

Because if that's your new ride I can only imagine what theater equipment you're contemplating. Perhaps 11 Goldmund Apologue Annisversary towers for the bed channels?
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Since I live 30 minutes from him I should check on him to make sure he isn't procrastinating. LOL

Seriously, what you been up to? Inquiring minds wants to know!

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You're considering a change to an Art Deco theme, so you're visiting inspirational locations??
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The chrome plating on that grill was done by the same folks who are doing some metalwork for the theater. (Yes?)
Interesting point and the answer is maybe...but I haven't selected a Nickel plater yet (chrome wasn't invented or available in the Art Deco era, just polished Nickel).

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You simply relish the thought of being a theater tease... (Yes??)
Not really....I wish the theater was done so I didn't have the project hanging over my head anymore!

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Because if that's your new ride I can only imagine what theater equipment you're contemplating. Perhaps 11 Goldmund Apologue Annisversary towers for the bed channels?
Well, this Bugatti was only the most expensive car in the world at $38 million until a Ferrari 250GT hammered at $39 million at auction just two years ago. Oh yeah....I saw that car up close and personal too....


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Since I live 30 minutes from him I should check on him to make sure he isn't procrastinating. LOL

Seriously, what you been up to? Inquiring minds wants to know!
Been on the road for work the last 18 days straight. Just got home last night. As you would expect, I'm moving a bit slow today but still at work in the home office. I have a bunch of 'life' to handle over the next couple days, but I might make it down to the basement this weekend....might.

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You're considering a change to an Art Deco theme, so you're visiting inspirational locations??
Winner winner chicken dinner! Primarily looking at different genuine Art Deco metalwork geometries first-hand. I was in LA for a solid 9 days and ended up visiting the Petersen Automotive Museum with the main attraction for me being the Art Deco car collection they were currently featuring along with 70 years of Ferrari history and hundreds of other unique vehicles. Too many to mention, but here's a few more photos below. I also had a chance to visit some of LA's Art Deco buildings one afternoon. Next month I'll be in NYC and will be taking a personal day to visit some of New York's top Art Deco sites in-person, including another visit to the Chatwal Hotel near Broadway and just off Times Square. I'd like a closer inspection on a few wood trim and metalwork details.

The real Delorean from Back to the Future on loan from Universal Studios:




The Duesenberg used in the Great Gatsby movie:


Full carbon fiber McClaren P1:


For you Formula 1 fans, Michael Schumacher's 2006 Championship winning Ferrari F1 car:


One of more than a dozen Bugattis on display:


Close up of grill metalwork:


I have hundreds more photos of all kinds of cars from all different angles. Well worth the $15 admission ticket if you have the time and inkling to go.
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I have hundreds more photos of all kinds of cars from all different angles. Well worth the $15 admission ticket if you have the time and inkling to go.
Thanks for that - come the winter our fleet start flying to LAX, so will stick that on my to do list!
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