Originally Posted by jdburton07
Finally got some downtime at work so I can post some thoughts.
Now, I don't know if any of you go through home theater crises like me where nothing seems to be working right and you wonder why you care so much or spend the obscene amounts of money on this hobby that we do. But every so often a moment comes along that makes you realize exactly what got you into this crazy pursuit and makes you wonder how you could have ever questioned it. Spending time in The Savoy brought out that cinematic elation more acutely than anything I've encountered yet. Watching the aforementioned Cream drum solo was an experience that I will do anything to replicate in my own home.
I am close to starting a complete overhaul of my theater and, while I've looked forward to the final result, I was dreading the work it will take to get me there. Now after being reminded what hard work and planning can get you, I can hardly keep myself from calling in sick to work and getting started right away. (DD: considering how big a part you seemed to play in David's theater and how well it turned out, I might try to enlist you to help with mine by offering food and alcohol or whatever other vice that will convince you).
The 215's were intimidating in the best of ways. I would love to hear them in a treated room like the 212's because I was astounded by how much I liked the 212's for music and I believe Jeff said that the 215's are the better choice if music is a priority.
Nyal's presentation was fascinating and the information about not fully absorbing first reflections is something I'm going to be experimenting with. It certainly worked for David so I wonder if the same is true in my much smaller space.
Throughout the first demo I thought that my seat had a buttkicker or something similar because my chair was rumbling so much. It was so awesome. There were a lot of discussions about bass and sub placement in the theater, but for my tastes I doubt the bass could be much improved upon. Admittedly, my subwoofer setup is practically a tweeter compared to what the Kansas City folk seem to have.
I loved the combination of the calibrated Sony projector and the Darbee Darblet--before I was convinced that the next projector I buy will be a JVC but now I'm not so sure. I was interested in how Sony's reality creation compared to the darblet, but unfortunately there wouldn't have been time to play around with that. Either way, I'm going to see if I can pick up a used darblet in the near future.
The GTG itself could not have been better organized. David has a knack for cracking the whip to get people moving and organized while still making things really fun and relaxed. The food was great and it was very kind of his wife and kids to help out. The movie tickets were charming and helpful, ensuring that there was an even mix of people getting seats and standing (and thus preventing jerks like me from hogging the good seats all day). You can consider me preemptively RSVP'd for any future GTG's.
After more time to think about things, I think that the first scene where the sound rumbled the seats was due to the large 18" in the back that probably (David could confirm) is sitting right on the riser effectively. So you were getting the vibration of the monster 18" transferring through the riser and into the seats. I say this because to feel it THAT much in the seat, would mean that you would have felt it even more in your chest via air movement, and that wasn't the case. It was definitely more in the seat than the air. Don't get me wrong, it was an AWESOME thing, and I am not knocking it, and we know darn well that there was a lot of air movement from all of the 18s in the room. I am just thinking about it because I am thinking about adding an extension behind my riser and putting a 3rd sub back there. My front row won't "feel" it since it is not on a riser, but the back row would love it... And yes, I already have bass shakers attached to each of my 8 seats.
Secondly, projector calibration is very nice. The Sony really did really well in the demo space. I have my JVC RS45 calibrated and the image seemed about the same, maybe even slightly favoring my JVC, but then again, that is what I am used to. I too have the Darblet and was one of the biggest skeptics on AVS before I got it. I was offered one heck of a deal on it because I was SOOO skeptical, and now I am a firm believer in what it can do. Having such inky blacks with nice detail enhancements from the Darblet is great. So don't take JVC out of the running just yet. If you need 3D, then sure, look elsewhere. If you don't have full lighting control, then you won't benefit from the JVC black levels either and would benefit more from something like the Sony. There are so many variables with projectors.
So yes, the GTG really got me thinking... Thinking about how awesome The Savoy is... Thinking about what my space does well, and what I want to try to improve (without my wife totally freaking out).
I also have a game plan should I make it to V5.0 of my theater, which would be in a whole different home at this point, and I really don't want to think about that.