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I only understand what this means in the loosest sense, can you please dumb it down? I read this as "sorry if you just figured out how to rip 4k, but the manufacturers are changing encoding versions and your solution won't work soon", is that correct?
Your understanding is correct, as of a few weeks ago. Check the link I shared a few minutes ago - the hackers have found a way.
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This is getting crazy. I mean, soon it won't be worth the effort to try and rip 4k disks. I already have two programs to try and rip. Getting and learning a 3rd is not that appealing to me. And what if they come out with something else soon after. I may have to stick with disks for 4k. I guess my only hope is that the one program that I have now that can rip 4k disks gets upgraded to do be able to do this.

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Your understanding is correct, as of a few weeks ago. Check the link I shared a few minutes ago - the hackers have found a way.
Thanks, I'll check out the link.

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This is getting crazy. I mean, soon it won't be worth the effort to try and rip 4k disks. I already have two programs to try and rip. Getting and learning a 3rd is not that appealing to me. And what if they come out with something else soon after. I may have to stick with disks for 4k. I guess my only hope is that the one program that I have now that can rip 4k disks gets upgraded to do be able to do this.
Don't say that, I just bought two drives! #SMDH
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I got you Doug I got you. I am just can't do as much as many of you other people can do that's all.

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I got you Doug I got you. I am just can't do as much as many of you other people can do that's all.
I dig it, we all have different capabilities. I have to admit tho, I'm trying not to pry, while not really being sure of your own personal situation.
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I dig it, we all have different capabilities. I have to admit tho, I'm trying not to pry, while not really being sure of your own personal situation.
look for a PM later.

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I sometimes envy those who just learned about HD last year, and think the term "4k" is simply missing the "0" and "1" before the K.

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Aarrgghh, the Russians. In between spearphishing, no doubt. Somebody with a white hat better comb the code for backdoors.
Wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.

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I don't know which, but I think one of us is overcomplicating "categories". I just have multiple folders on my NAS "pictures, movies, demo, TV_Shows, music, music_videos, etc". Various things around the house map drives, per usage. For example, my PC has everything mapped, but the Shield only has "movies, demo, TV_shows, music" right now. I rip a movie on my PC, then move it over to the "movies" directory on the NAS. I downloaded those Atmos demos from the site you found, and put them in demo. I rip TV_shows, put them... When I set up the Shield, I have one "library" for each "folder" on my NAS. When pull up the Shield on the PJ, it just shows me a library per folder, and I go to what I'm looking to do.



Is there another level to "categories" than I'm thinking?



I think you and I are at the same but different levels. Your description is basically how I rip and use my stuff too.



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I hear someone mention ripping a 4K disk of the tracks/demo clips being auditioned?!?!

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I think you and I are at the same but different levels. Your description is basically how I rip and use my stuff too.
Yeah, it used to be about absently changing discs on the PC, while doing other things. Lately I've been noticing that the increasing size of the discs is making it take longer and longer, so I've been looking to upgrade the ~4 y/o PC. I just spent a bunch on the HTPC tho, to get everything up to speed for an i9 processor, and wasn't looking forward to doing it again. That's why I was so excited by Matt's Shield experiment and the cool stuff they're doing in the UHD ripping thread. Now there's a new plan...

As of last week, I had a ~4 y/o PC upstairs in my office, that I rip everything on, and send it down to the NAS. In the HT I have the HTPC which is a pretty monster Windows 10 PC, with drives mapped to the NAS. From it I ran my MoviePoster app TV and Kodi for presenting movies on the NAS, and occasionally iTunes for music. I also kept an Oppo in the rack for the 4k stuff since I couldn't rip it, an Apple TV for iTunes and legacy iTunes movies, and a FiOS cable box.

The new plan which is currently in progress is the Shield (already in place) mapped to the NAS, running Plex. It's already doing double duty, replacing Kodi and iTunes from the HTPC, as well as YouTube. I also upgraded the Apple TV to 4k, since sometimes you just want to rent the movie. I bought a miniPC to take over the MoviePoster app duties, and I'm pulling the HTPC from the rack. I'll take everything out of the HTPC and move all the parts upstairs into my current PC, upgrading it to 2066 and i9 processor compliant, and add the 2 new drives that I just bought so I can start ripping 4k movies. I originally ordered 2 so I wouldn't have to worry about "the one" I ordered not working, but now I'm actually starting to hope that I can rip two at the same time. With any luck I can clear out the 4-5U HTPC from the rack, potentially the Oppo, and put an amp or two back in. That would not only get me back to discless (where I was before UHD came out), but also allow me to fit another amp in the rack and potentially add more speakers to the room.
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Yeah, it used to be about absently changing discs on the PC, while doing other things. Lately I've been noticing that the increasing size of the discs is making it take longer and longer, so I've been looking to upgrade the ~4 y/o PC. I just spent a bunch on the HTPC tho, to get everything up to speed for an i9 processor, and wasn't looking forward to doing it again. That's why I was so excited by Matt's Shield experiment and the cool stuff they're doing in the UHD ripping thread. Now there's a new plan...



As of last week, I had a ~4 y/o PC upstairs in my office, that I rip everything on, and send it down to the NAS. In the HT I have the HTPC which is a pretty monster Windows 10 PC, with drives mapped to the NAS. From it I ran my MoviePoster app TV and Kodi for presenting movies on the NAS, and occasionally iTunes for music. I also kept an Oppo in the rack for the 4k stuff since I couldn't rip it, an Apple TV for iTunes and legacy iTunes movies, and a FiOS cable box.



The new plan which is currently in progress is the Shield (already in place) mapped to the NAS, running Plex. It's already doing double duty, replacing Kodi and iTunes from the HTPC, as well as YouTube. I also upgraded the Apple TV to 4k, since sometimes you just want to rent the movie. I bought a miniPC to take over the MoviePoster app duties, and I'm pulling the HTPC from the rack. I'll take everything out of the HTPC and move all the parts upstairs into my current PC, upgrading it to 2066 and i9 processor compliant, and add the 2 new drives that I just bought so I can start ripping 4k movies. I originally ordered 2 so I wouldn't have to worry about "the one" I ordered not working, but now I'm actually starting to hope that I can rip two at the same time. With any luck I can clear out the 4-5U HTPC from the rack, potentially the Oppo, and put an amp or two back in. That would not only get me back to discless (where I was before UHD came out), but also allow me to fit another amp in the rack and potentially add more speakers to the room.


That’s where you get to be a couple levels above me. Currently I have an old laptop on a pull out shelf in the rack and I’ll hook that to an external drive I can burn Blu-ray from. Burn to laptop, move folder to the NAS, delete folder from laptop. I recently got an older desktop(newer then the laptop) and upgraded the video card so I could watch Blu-ray through Plex on the desktop. In my eventual perfect world I will get an internal drive for the desktop and can take the laptop out of the rack. Desktop is used for Plex playback, internet browsing, and streaming shows from the internet. Physical discs are watched on a regular Blu-ray player. Other streaming is done through Netflix and Prime using either the Blu-ray players app or the apps on the Xbox 360. No 4K or Atmos yet so I don’t need to be too fancy.


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@DougUSMC you can def rip 2 simultaneously...I used to rip 4 blu rays simultaneousl. I just ran 4 instances of makemkv arranged in quadrants onscreen. As long as your processor is up to the task (i9 clearly is), then you're good to go if you run 2 instances of makemkv!

Also, we are the same on the folders...one folder per library. I just didnt want to create new libraries.

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@DougUSMC you can def rip 2 simultaneously...I used to rip 4 blu rays simultaneousl. I just ran 4 instances of makemkv arranged in quadrants onscreen. As long as your processor is up to the task (i9 clearly is), then you're good to go if you run 2 instances of makemkv!
Very cool, I was more concerned that MakeMKV wouldn't let me run 2 instances on the same machine. I think I have about 20x 4ks that I want to get ripped before your shindig, and there's no way I make it if I have to do it serially...

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Also, we are the same on the folders...one folder per library. I just didnt want to create new libraries.
I'm a simple-OCD kinda' guy. I just organize it in a way that makes sense, and leave it until I see a reason otherwise. I will say tho - the "Demos" folder is new, since I didn't like the way they showed up under the movie folder in Plex. It think it's much cleaner this way.
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@mercracing THE FOAM STRIPS WORKED!!!! THANK YOU!

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I just finished figuring out how to make 4k backups using MakeMKV.

As is always my way, I think I did it the hardest, most convoluted way possible. The good news is, that generally helps me to learn a lot about how to get 'r done, and I've whipped through another in almost 1/2 the time.

I have what I think is a fool-proof set of steps for helping others - Any desire for a quick run-through of the steps @ the G2G tomorrow?
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G2G day will be interesting.

Wife is currently in labor. I'm typing this from a hospital's Labor & Delivery ward.

G2G is not cancelled--attendees, please check email for details. It will be happening later in the day.

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Good luck Matt & Wifey

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G2G day will be interesting.

Wife is currently in labor. I'm typing this from a hospital's Labor & Delivery ward.

G2G is not cancelled--attendees, please check email for details. It will be happening later in the day.

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Hope all goes well! And congratulations!!
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A new audio/videophile soon to be born!! Hope all goes well in the delivery room. If your wife allows you to go on with this G2G, she needs to be crowned The Queen of Understanding (or equivalent) and most certainly should get some kind of reward.

Her timiing, by the way, is impeccable !!
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I’d suggest a postponement otherwise this will be a story your grandchildren will laugh about for decades.
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The G2G has been rescheduled...

2:30...still in labor. All are healthy... baby is just taking her time.

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You're getting this in 4k and Atmos, right?
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