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OSB is very different from particle board.  Particle board has little strength and will easily fall apart with a load on it.  Fine for shelves and cabinets, bad for structural use.

Interesting....been looking here for about a year figuring out my design and never saw that. Makes a lot of sense of you're going to de-couple the walls and want to add the wainscoting, etc.

Why not 5/8" for walls, or is that just overkill?
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Interesting....been looking here for about a year figuring out my design and never saw that. Makes a lot of sense of you're going to de-couple the walls and want to add the wainscoting, etc.

Why not 5/8" for walls, or is that just overkill?
The prescription for soundproofing a room usually calls for double 5/8" drywall with green glue on the walls and ceiling. I think a lot of people are starting to go with OSB on the first layer instead of drywall so their nails will hold better for soffits, wainscoting, etc.

It sounds like your wanting to soundproof your room. I would give a call to The Soundproofing Company and see what they have to say. I've heard they give tons of advice and are really good with their customers. You should also start a build thread of your own. We would love to help you out.
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The prescription for soundproofing a room usually calls for double 5/8" drywall with green glue on the walls and ceiling. I think a lot of people are starting to go with OSB on the first layer instead of drywall so their nails will hold better for soffits, wainscoting, etc.

It sounds like your wanting to soundproof your room. I would give a call to The Soundproofing Company and see what they have to say. I've heard they give tons of advice and are really good with their customers. You should also start a build thread of your own. We would love to help you out.

Thanks,much appreciated! I am starting serious work n the next few months. I started a vet owned Digital FX company and I am an author(code name sonny). So...the build will be the Digital Fx Studio. I will start a thread this week and post pics :-)
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post #34 of 163 Old 10-26-2014, 04:19 PM - Thread Starter
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch.

So, after a family death in the spring and work running off the rails (pays the rent, and the HT, but has been super-busy)... we're picking up our regularly scheduled broadcast.

Got back downstairs about a month ago and am making good progress.

Framing is done, getting gas fireplace installed soon, and after running all of the electrical myself, I'm having my guy install and wire up the subpanael next week.

An overview to start with:
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- Mechanical room with branch wiring.
- Electrical done, waiting for subpanel this week.

- Showing the bath, mechanical, and behind the bookcase the hobby/train room.
- Showing the entrance to HT, the game room with gas fireplace framing in the corner, and the bar area.
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- Looking into bath. Going to do an in-floor warmer and then ceramic tile TBD.
- The bookcase door going into the hobby/train room.
- Again.
- Hobby/train. Will be building in a work desk/shelving to the right of the display case.
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- View while sitting at the bar looking to where back bar will be, and to where 32" TV will be on wall. Also to wine closet to right of TV.
- The bar area. Very poor drawing of location of back bar. Two fridges under back bar top and then shelving to either side of mirror.

- Area for 60" TV in game room. Planning on HDMI splitter to be able to show same content in HT, GR TV and bar TV.
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And onto the good stuff:

- Equipment room, back of rack. All speaker wire running through the orange "smurf tube". I have conduit/wiring for a 7.2 system but I'm going to add wiring so that I can evolve to an 11.2 system. One main coax coming in from cable box. Ran coax to GR TV and bar TV as well 'in case'. The HDMI and cat6 is to the PJ, the game room TV, the bar TV, and a small 16" LCD monitor in the HT to be able to program/etc without turning on projector. The one receptacle is 20A dedicated for rack, the other is for the PJ, small monitor, and receptacle.

- Front of HT. I taped up a 120" 2.35:1 screen that is 30" off the floor just as a very rough mock up. Room is 144" wide unfinished so I feel the 120" might be a bit big, and a 110" might be the ticket. Don't have a screen yet. Also considering CIW and going 16:9.

- Rear of theater. Deep 4 gang on left for GE. Will have ceiling/soffit cans, cans above screen, soffit rope light, and behind screen light. Probably get a 6 zone for expansion capabilities.
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- The (mostly) complete electrical plan (if anyone is doing garage work, I strongly suggest epoxy flooring, see pic).
- HT elevation. Planning on Panasonic PTAE8000U. 110" or 120" screen.
- GOM samples. Deciding between the 'blue or red' and then whether to do black or grey for the lower half of the walls (painted MDF wainscoting). Black for the screen wall.
- Couldn't stand all the boxes of equipment just sitting around so I busted some out to set it up and try it out. Amazing sound quality.
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Making progress. Sub-panel is in and running. All branches tested and works like a charm. Feel pretty chuffed at doing all the wiring myself after having considered hiring it out.

Also started to insulate the HT. Starting to feel a bit like a real 'room'.
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An amazing space you have to work with! And you're completing the entire basement & HT - big task. Love the hidden door idea to the hobby room, and your bar / game room should be a great place to hangout.

Thoughts on your screen - go as big as possible (120" isn't too big), and make sure the height is set so eye level from first row is about 1/3 distance from the bottom of the screen. 30" is likely too high.

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... And you're completing the entire basement & HT - big task.
Thanks. It is nice to see it shaping again. And I severely underestimated the 'job'. It started as doing a hobby room then ballooned from there... and it occurred to me that now it is just building a house without a roof.
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mtmd11, such a great "winter" project. I finished my whole basement (about 1600 finished sqft) when I built my theater space. As incentive, I did everything else first before running a single cable (minus power) into the home theater. I even drywalled everything else first. The ONLY things that I paid someone to do was to mud/tape (and honestly I am not satisfied with some of that work and have gone back and fixed things, but at least *I* didn't have to do it like I did for the previous 3 basements I finished), and I paid a plumber to put in the underground plumbing lines. There was no way that I was going to tackle that and have an issue later on that was buried under concrete in the bathroom.

I didn't do anything fancy like a hidden door, but I think that is a great idea.

FYI that I am also up in your neck of the woods today and most of tomorrow. I am in Exton, PA for work. I head down to Baltimore tomorrow after work, otherwise I would seriously offer to come and help for a few hours. One thing that I learned was that having any amount of help seems to really move things forward quickly.

I guess that I will just have to watch the progress from the forums instead.
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Christmas In November.
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Well, progress continuing, slow but steady.
Getting all the insulation in the HT done. Getting all the rest of the basement ready for drywall.
Planning on drywall end of next week. First big thing I am hiring out, which is hard to do, but I know that if I tackle it myself, as a one man job, it will be months and months before it is all hung, let alone finished. I'm happy to write a check for this one.
Little 'before' and 'after' of the HT.
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Shiny

(firefly reference...)
Right on!

When I get this whole project done... "I aim to misbehave" in the new HT!
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I watched all of Firefly for the first time this year. It was really good and I love Nathan FILLION and his comedic timing and expression. It has definitely carried over into the Castle series, which I've watched ever since it aired.

Anyhoo, back to the HT. Nice job so far. It looks to have good bones.
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just a suggestion: you will do yourself a disservice by not doing a height layer of speakers... they really do sound awesome. At least wire for them now.
Took this to heart and added 4 more 'pre-wired' speaker locations, 2 front and 2 rear, so at some point can go from 7.2 to 9.2 or 11.2.

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What are you using for those bar cabinets? Are you going to stain them? What about the side you will see? Are you going to make your own end panel?
(Edited, repost, sorry.)

After the HT, the bar is what I'm looking forward to most!

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...FYI that I am also up in your neck of the woods today and most of tomorrow. I am in Exton, PA for work. I head down to Baltimore tomorrow after work, otherwise I would seriously offer to come and help for a few hours. One thing that I learned was that having any amount of help seems to really move things forward quickly.

I guess that I will just have to watch the progress from the forums instead.
Thanks for the offer of help, very kind of you. PM sent.
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Pretty close to my room dimensions.

Have you thought about a lighting plan yet? Backer boxes, in soffits, etc.? Do you have any beams or other ceiling obstructions in the theater space?
Plan for lighting is going to be a 3 inch recessed above each column (8 in total) and then 4 of those same across the front of the stage highlighting the screen.

Also will have rope light in the sofit and a rope light vs 'spot lights' just behind the screen to showcase speakers.

There will be a small accent light under the 'bar' (third row of seating) as well as 2 lights for the riser step.

The Grafik Eye that I got is a 6 zone, for right now I'm planning on the following:
Zone 1: recessed above columns.
Zone 2: lights above stage.
Zone 3: rope light.
Zone 4: behind screen lights.

and then setting up the 'scenes' for:
1 - "pre/post show" with midlevel brightness.
2 - "watching" with everything turned down.
3 - "intermission" with midlevel lighting, enough for some egress but not too much brightness.
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Looking great! Keep the updates coming. PS - nice to see another Polk speaker user.

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Might want:


Scene 4: "Cleaning".
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Scene 4: "Cleaning".
Right on. I knew I was forgetting something, and a "all lights, full on" is just the one.
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Well, A trip to the ER and yet I managed to get everything ready for the drywall guys tomorrow.

As for the head injury, I was popping up the ladder peaking between joists and forgot about the 6in recessed light can above me. Those edges are sharp! Went back together ok, though.

The drywall guys show up in the AM and I am really looking forward to seeing it take shape as rooms and details.

Then it will be time for construction to begin on the HT stage and riser and bar, and the Bar out in the game area.

Pics to come.
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yup that is an ouchie for sure...

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So, 2 days of the drywall guys being here and they are about 95% done with the hanging... soon to start with the 'finishing'.

So in the end, for the HT, it was 1/2 inch drywall over 1/2 inch OSB with green glue between. The one wall in common with the rest of the basement (the game room in this case) is a 6 inch wall with staggered studs and dual insulation (R13 from both sides).

The ceiling is DD on hat track with GG with this over insulation between the joists.

Even with the open doorway, it is amazing how much the walls dampen surrounding noise.
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And after that nasty cut, I might take to wearing some protection...
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Damn!

That was a pretty bad cut. That may top my worst one so far.

Nice progress so far! I think you'll appreciate not doing the drywall once its done.
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