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More Subs

Thinking of adding 2 subs to the rear columns, any suggestions on what to pair with the 2 - UM18-22 18" Ultimax DVC Subwoofer 2 ohms that are in the front? Was wondering if I could mount an in wall sub inside of the rear columns?
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Triad Silver, Triad Bronze or Procella P10Si are going to be your most cost-effective balancing subs. Most use the 6" deep Triad Bronze in-wall sub because it is a great performer for the least amount of scratch. As you probably know, balancing subs will never be able to compete / augment LFE from your front subs.

But if you are looking to scramble your inards even more with near-field sub goodness, then you're into quite a bit more construction with recessing more 15" or 18" subs into your rear columns / walls in a soundproof way.

You have a new marquee on order yet??
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You have a new marquee on order yet??

We were looking at just 2 nights ago, trying to agree on a style.
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Thinking of adding 2 subs...
I had to laugh when I noticed you went from 'having awesome bass' to 'wanting more bass' in 31 posts.... just sayin'....
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Was needing to replace a few cup holders as the rims were getting brittle on some of the older chairs and pieces were starting to break off. So I went with some lighted holders from Stargate Cinema.

They are lit with 3 - AAA. I knew even before watching a movie that they were going to be to bright so I remove 1 battery and installed a jumper wire in its place to dim them down a bit. If I find that they are still to bright I will look to adding a resistor. Watching film tonight, so we will see.


I ended up installing a 1k resistor in line with all 3 AAA batteries, it is now has just amount of illumination.
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Great Theater. Thank you so much for taking all the time to take pictures and post.

Quick question and forgive me if you have already spoken about this, but I may have missed it. I noticed you redid your ceiling with DD, GG, and clips. Have you notice a big difference in sound level outside the room?

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Great Theater. Thank you so much for taking all the time to take pictures and post.

Quick question and forgive me if you have already spoken about this, but I may have missed it. I noticed you redid your ceiling with DD, GG, and clips. Have you notice a big difference in sound level outside the room?

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Thanks Jerry.


I will state that the room was not officially done as a sound proof room and don't claim that it is. We did the ceiling that way to cut down on noise going up from the room as well as the foot traffic, echo of hardwood floors and sliding of chairs, dining table is right above the theater, noise coming down. Although it was a royal pain, it did make a difference.


The biggest escape of sound is through the door as I have not invested in seals "yet" but I will get there eventually.
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A year later

Finally made to the point on my project list where "trimming out the panels on the wall" could be crossed off.



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Hopefully you won't have any problems with you projector vibrating like I did.

...well it has been a little over a year now that the room has been finished and no real issues with the projector vibrating. But what does vibrate is the screen from time to time. The screen hangs down a foot or so in front of the subs and I am thinking if I had a greater distance to set the subs further away from the screen it would not happen. (faintly see it in the picture)



That maybe why I see some subs turned sideways so the air does not push against the screen but it also maybe that there is not enough room for them to sit facing out.
Anyways, it just ads a little effect in those deep bass moments. That's my story anyways
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Nice touch with the trim on your panels, 24C. Did you ever add those 2 additional subs?

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Was needing to replace a few cup holders as the rims were getting brittle on some of the older chairs and pieces were starting to break off. So I went with some lighted holders from Stargate Cinema.

They are lit with 3 - AAA. I knew even before watching a movie that they were going to be to bright so I remove 1 battery and installed a jumper wire in its place to dim them down a bit. If I find that they are still to bright I will look to adding a resistor. Watching film tonight, so we will see.


I ended up installing a 1k resistor in line with all 3 AAA batteries, it is now has just amount of illumination.
I like the stone work and color combinations in the room. Very warm and inviting. Great job.

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Nice touch with the trim on your panels, 24C. Did you ever add those 2 additional subs?

Thanks!
Subs ~ Not yet, that is on the someday list. And I am not sure if it would even matter, the 2~18's up front do a decent job of delivering the bass. If I were to put a couple of subs in the rear, they would probably be in wall subs, something I could put in the columns, as I do not want to make the necessary modifications to the back wall to fit 15's or 18's. TMcG had mentioned a few post back about some Procella's in post #332.
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I like the stone work and color combinations in the room. Very warm and inviting. Great job.

It is a great room to separate yourself from the house and the world for that matter. Thanks
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I love the colors. The black ceiling with the white trim and the warm tone walls. How do you think it all works as far as light reflection? Do the walls or white trim give you any trouble?

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I love the colors. The black ceiling with the white trim and the warm tone walls. How do you think it all works as far as light reflection? Do the walls or white trim give you any trouble?
The ceiling looks black in some photos but is actually Well Bred Brown from SW as well as the columns and the chair rail. The walls are done in Gold Coast and the crown is Craft White(SW). I am a big fan of Sherwin Williams paint, I think it covers well and goes on smooth. IMO there are no issues with reflection due to the lighter colors and nothing was brought up about during 4.5 hours of calibration with Jeff M, I do not think I would go any lighter than what I have but I feel as longs as you have a color that has some richness to it you will be fine.


I have given some thought as to painting the 1st crown level the brown to tie in the wall and soffit, but have not committed. I'll post pictures if I do.


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Jeff Meier with AccuCal has confirmed to stop in on May 7th for a tune up. I am excited, the room still looks and sounds great but I am interested to see where the audio & video are after 15 months of use. I have 872 hours on the lamp and have tweaked the subs a bit to ear and am interested in what the professional will find with those.
I will keep ya'll posted on what Jeff finds and does.
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First i want to start our by saying thanks to Kevin & his wonderful wife yesterday for the theater demo. His theater is a masterpiece. Not sure why it hasn't been home theater of the month yet. Thanks again so much for your time & knowledgeable info.

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First i want to start our by saying thanks to Kevin & his wonderful wife yesterday for the theater demo. His theater is a masterpiece. Not sure why it hasn't been home theater of the month yet. Thanks again so much for your time & knowledgeable info.

Lucky to have a demo of such a great setup. I second your thought that this is "Theater of the month" worthy.
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First i want to start our by saying thanks to Kevin & his wonderful wife yesterday for the theater demo. His theater is a masterpiece. Not sure why it hasn't been home theater of the month yet. Thanks again so much for your time & knowledgeable info.
Nexgen76 any time man if I can help in any way, let me know. Thanks for stopping over and the kind words. I would have watched the whole movie with you.


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Thanks. I have driven 300 miles for an AVS meet before, but alas, 3000 miles is just outside my limit.
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Jeff Meier with AccuCal has confirmed to stop in on May 7th for a tune up. I am excited, the room still looks and sounds great but I am interested to see where the audio & video are after 15 months of use. I have 872 hours on the lamp and have tweaked the subs a bit to ear and am interested in what the professional will find with those.
I will keep ya'll posted on what Jeff finds and does.
I'm having Jeff calibrate my theater on May 12th. After reading about your great experience with Jeff, I can't wait!

Superb job on your build! I also have the 1099's and they are FANTASTIC.
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I'm having Jeff calibrate my theater on May 12th. After reading about your great experience with Jeff, I can't wait!

Superb job on your build! I also have the 1099's and they are FANTASTIC.

Thanks!
I just read through your thread. It is nice to start with a clean space. I think Jeff will do a great job for you and I look forward to your comments after his visit.
I read in your thread that you have your projector on the low setting. Depending on the light control in your room, it will probably end up there after the calibration. Mine has been on low setting since Jeff's visit and still looking great; over 900 hours on it now.
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Aw; what's another zero?
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Post Calibration Report

As scheduled, Jeff Meier stopped by yesterday for a tune up of the room. It had been 16 months and 903 hours since the original calibration was performed. The first thing Jeff noticed before setting up all of his equipment, was the picture, it had lost some of it's luster, "but not to worry, I can correct that". Jeff made a few minor adjustments to brightness, contrast, color, white balance and gamma. All due to the aged SRXD panels. Jeff used Sony Image Director software to correct the gamma and white balance.
Here are some settings from the original 12/2014 calibration to the 5/2016 correction.
Contrast 82 86
Brightness 54 50
Color 48, 50
Hue 50, 50
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Gain Red 0, 0
Gain Green -8, -4
Gain Blue -15, -10
Bias Red-1, 0
Bias Green 1, -2
Bias Blue -1, 0

As far as the audio portion, all seemed to be as it should, although to bring the subs back into proportion with the rest of the audio settings for the room, we turned the volume down about 5db on the subs. It was all worth the investment to know if the audio had change and how much; which it had not and the picture is looking brand new again, the Falcon screen really pops. The flesh tones are vibrant and the contrast is rich. I thought the image was still looking great but now with these changes I really noticed the fall off. Small changes from day to day and you don't notice how much things are changing. (There is more truth to that statement other than AV). I should be all set for another 18-24 months.

Thank you Jeff for stopping by and for the great conversation on many diverse topics.


Here is some conversation on Sony's SRXD panels
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Man, I have got to get back out there and see / hear all the improvements. I was there pre Peavy sub amp fix, pre-calibration, pre-finishing all the last details, pre-black velvet behind the screen..... I need to do something about that!!!

Did you ever order that new marquee? Any plans for Creekside 2.0 with Atmos and 4K upgrades? Still pondering more subs in the rear despite having awesome bass?
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Man, I have got to get back out there and see / hear all the improvements. I was there pre Peavy sub amp fix, pre-calibration, pre-finishing all the last details, pre-black velvet behind the screen..... I need to do something about that!!!

Did you ever order that new marquee? Any plans for Creekside 2.0 with Atmos and 4K upgrades? Still pondering more subs in the rear despite having awesome bass?
You're welcome any time, shoot me a text on what works for you.
No marquee, no plans for Atmos at this time. You need to listen to the room and then we will discuss the Atmos. Between the coaxial Volt 8's, the 10' center ceiling and the acoustic, it's like I already have Atmos at some degree. imo


As far as the rear subs, I do not really need them either. When I posted that comment(need to go and edit) I did not realize that I had not saved my settings in the Peavey so when I was messing around with the amp a little, it had defaulted back to factory settings. All fixed now.
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Annoyance

I have a small annoyance; because the front 18" subs sit inches away from the bottom screen panel, I can hear the bottom screen panel fabric vibrate/slap against the panel frame supports during deep base scenes. I was looking for thoughts or suggestions on rectifying the problem.


- could I build the bottom screen panel out of solid material?
- could I use duct board and fill in the panel between the supports
- I could turn the subs down
- or I could remodel the wall and move the subs further away from the screen panel. I really would like to avoid this option altogether for multiple reasons.
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3M Super 77 spray adhesive to attach the fabric to the frame. Probably difficult to retrofit. Could mean redoing the fabric panel so you could glue and then staple.


PS - you may also be able to use a fabric tape or heat-activated iron on tape you could apply between the wood and the fabric. Test first so the adhesive doesn't show through the fabric.

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