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Equipment room looks great! Nice job engineering a practical solution to make the wires look nicer...I think it looks pretty clean.

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Equipment room looks great! Nice job engineering a practical solution to make the wires look nicer...I think it looks pretty clean.
Thx. You were up late working in the theater I presume. Brings back memories of late nights last fall followed by lots of coffee the next day and repeat.

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Guilty. But I also did a ton of research on accent lighting controls.

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Also bought 120 feet of 1" x 8" plywood to make baseboard for the basement. Spent a few hours one weekend sanding all of the wood, then primed and sanded. Used the router to put a 3/8" chamfer on the top edge of the base board.
Wiring looks clean! Besides, hopefully, you are the only one who will ever need to be seeing them. I'm not looking forward to dealing with the spaghetti monster of wires I have hanging behind my rack.

You said you used plywood for your baseboard. Does the primer hide the edges of the plywood well? I have a bunch of plywood left over in my build and I want to start laying down some baseboard. I dont think it would work well for me because I want to do a 1/2" 45 degree bevel on my trim. I think the plywood layers would chip out alot. Does the primer help with that?

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Wiring looks clean! Besides, hopefully, you are the only one who will ever need to be seeing them. I'm not looking forward to dealing with the spaghetti monster of wires I have hanging behind my rack.

You said you used plywood for your baseboard. Does the primer hide the edges of the plywood well? I have a bunch of plywood left over in my build and I want to start laying down some baseboard. I dont think it would work well for me because I want to do a 1/2" 45 degree bevel on my trim. I think the plywood layers would chip out alot. Does the primer help with that?
Brain fart. That would be pine not plywood. I had plywood on the brain because that's what I used above the equipment rack. I corrected my post.

Plywood would be very tough to work with. Not worth the effort to route and finish a nice edge as you suggested.

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Wiring looks clean! Besides, hopefully, you are the only one who will ever need to be seeing them. I'm not looking forward to dealing with the spaghetti monster of wires I have hanging behind my rack.



You said you used plywood for your baseboard. Does the primer hide the edges of the plywood well? I have a bunch of plywood left over in my build and I want to start laying down some baseboard. I dont think it would work well for me because I want to do a 1/2" 45 degree bevel on my trim. I think the plywood layers would chip out alot. Does the primer help with that?

1x MDF would be a good option, and those can be found in 16ft lengths.
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1x MDF would be a good option, and those can be found in 16ft lengths.
Perfect! Thanks for the suggestion!

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Worked on finishing the rack opening over the past couple weeks. The rack opening had been unfinished since January.



What size/brand equipment rack is that ?
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I used this 32U rackfrom Snap AV. The build quality is fine, maybe not as good as Mid-Atlantic. But, it was a good fit below my stairs and pricing was reasonable.

How is your build coming along?

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Taming OC705

Has been over 2 months since I've posted to my thread. No great excuse. Bunch of summer family stuff. More movie watching than working on the basement. Work has been keeping me pretty busy too. Enough of that.... time to catch up on a few updates.

Borrowing from the technique @BIGmouthinDC used to tame the OC703/705 in @auburnu008 's build, I tamed the OC703 that was visible through my rear wall art.

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Cut Scott's landscape fabric large enough to fit around the OC705 and be tucked between the OC705 and drywall. Then tucked in place:



Then put the fabric frame back in place



I'm thinking about replacing the full color panel with the same scene in greyscale. @nickbuol did the work last time to convert my jpeg into the format Spoonflower needs. I'll have to reach out again to see if he has time to work his magic

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Preparing for wet bar and wine cabinet

I've made much more progress outside the theater. We had a basic wetbar that was ripped out after the basement flood that kicked this project off in May 2014. We decided to replace that with a wet bar that includes a microwave, dishwasher, refrigerator and wine cabinet.

Had to move the plumbing to accommodate the new sink and dishwasher locations. Also had to do some electrical. Had pulled a dedicated 20A circuit for the wine cabinet when the 2 new theater circuits were pulled last year. Also added a 20A for the microwave to supplement the 20A that was installed for the previous wetbar.

We settled on three new lighting zones:
1) LED gimbals to light the wetbar and wine cabinet
2) Under cabinet LED strip above the sink
3) Hanging fixture over a counter height (or bar height table)

Pictures of the wall and ceiling after plumbing and romex pulled:








Next step was to replace the 1/2" drywall. Went pretty smoothly after the experience of hanging drywall in the theater






Over the next couple weeks, I worked on mud and tape and mud and sanding as I had time. Here's a pic after I started with primer.






Next, I put one coat of primer on the wall and followed up with two coats of Benjamin Moore Satin to match the rest of the basement. Didn't take any pictures after the wall was painted.

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Wet bar and wine cabinet install

From order to first delivery of the cabinets took about 3 months. Felt long to me, but I was told that isn't unusual. Then, when the cabinets arrived, one was wrong - a side was should have been finished was not - and the shelves were missing. Took another 3 weeks before we had all the right pieces to complete the install.

My wife and I moved the very heavy wine cabinets into place and bolted the 2 cabinets together. We had to make sure the 2 wine cabinets were in the right location so the base cabinet which would hold the microwave would fit between the theater door and the wine cabinet.

Took about four days to load the wine into the cabinet. The manufacturer (Vigilant Woodworks) recommended filling no more than 25% f the cabinet per day to avoid overloading the cooling system.

I did get some help to install the remaining cabinets. After I showed the installer the theater, he asked me "what do you need me for?" Flattering, but I seriously did not want to screw up custom cabinets. Professional help was worth it.

A couple weekends after the cabinets were installed, I put in the lighting. Here are a few pictures of the wet bar / wine cabinet setup.










Picture looking past the wetbar cabinets into the theater




To do list:
1) Select counter tops. Have counters fabricated and installed
2) Select backsplash and install
3) Install sink, faucet and disposal
4) Install dishwasher
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Are you using an under the sink reservoir sump pump? Any brand you like better?
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Great job on theater lobby.......

Lots of wine there..........where the cheese and bread?
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I'm thinking about replacing the full color panel with the same scene in greyscale. @nickbuol did the work last time to convert my jpeg into the format Spoonflower needs. I'll have to reach out again to see if he has time to work his magic
I need to go mow my grass (waiting as late as possible as it is HOT and HUMID here in the middle of Iowa, but it will just take a few seconds to run downstairs to my office and make it grayscale. I should have it done in about 90 minutes (takes a little over an hour to mow the grass)...

EDIT: Scratch that. I just did it now. They are uploading to the same file location I sent you back last year when I did them. I will send you a PM with the link again...

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I need to go mow my grass (waiting as late as possible as it is HOT and HUMID here in the middle of Iowa, but it will just take a few seconds to run downstairs to my office and make it grayscale. I should have it done in about 90 minutes (takes a little over an hour to mow the grass)...

EDIT: Scratch that. I just did it now. They are uploading to the same file location I sent you back last year when I did them. I will send you a PM with the link again...
Fantastic and totally unexpected that you would be able to convert it within hours of me indirectly asking!

I just placed the order with Spoonflower. Should ship within 8 days.

You're one of the reasons I love this forum. Thanks again!
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...as it is HOT and HUMID here in the middle of Iowa.
Ah yes, I can recall a few times on RAGBRAI dealing with the sweltering summer weather in Iowa. Like putting you bike on a trainer in front of an open kitchen oven. Saggy Thursday's ride into Sigourney was brutal.
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Are you using an under the sink reservoir sump pump? Any brand you like better?
Yes, also need to install a drain pump. I'm leaning towards Liberty Pumps. The 404 drain pump has 1/3 hp. Dimensions are 11" tall and max width of 13 3/4".



I haven't laid out the plumbing, but those dimensions should allow me to fit a reasonably sized sink, the disposal and pump in that cabinet (standard 24" width)

That said, most of my research has been reading web reviews. What brand and model would you recommend? Any that you would stay away from?
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I've never installed one just read about them, looking to you to gain some knowledge. I think I would also invest in a battery operated water alarm to put on the shelf next to pump as an early warning device. A household training seminar on never using the sink during a power failure wouldn't hurt.
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Great job on theater lobby.......

Lots of wine there..........where the cheese and bread?
Thanks Cory.

Cheese, sliced meat and soft drinks will eventually be stored in the beverage refrigerator next to the sink. For now, I make the trip upstairs for food and snacks, then pull out a bottle, pour and settle in for a movie.

We have about 300 bottles in the cabinet. The cabinet capacity is 420 bottles. I've mistreated most of the wine by storing the bottles at about 70F ambient temperature in the basement. Some experts may be able to taste the the damage, but I cannot.

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I've never installed one just read about them, looking to you to gain some knowledge. I think I would also invest in a battery operated water alarm to put on the shelf next to pump as an early warning device. A household training seminar on never using the sink during a power failure wouldn't hurt.
Great advice on the water alarm and the training - especially for the kids.

Both are on my list. Thx.

I'll report back on the pump.

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Sometimes black and white is better than color

After living with a full color acoustic panel on my rear wall for a few months, I decided to swap it out for a greyscale panel that blends into the room color scheme.

Within a couple hours of me asking, @nickbuol converted the photo to greyscale. Thanks again!

I placed the Spoonflower order eight days ago. The fabric arrived today. Took me about an hour to remove all of the staples, pull off the full color fabric and replace it with the new greyscale fabric.

The verdict. We like the greyscale much better. What do you all think? Opinions are welcome.

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After I put the panel in place, my wife came down to help me remove the Ekornes Stressless sofa that we have been using since December. We made space for a Jaymar Jesse sectional which is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow! Can't wait to see it in the room after work
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love the greyscale. a perfect change
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Looks amazing!!
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This build is amazing! Looks total kickass! So much work and so much attention to detail. When do you plan on ordering your furniture? Also how is the bass?

Considering how much beefing up the room, how is the sound transmission out of the room? I know its damn near impossible to sound proof but how loud can you turn up before they start to hear it upstairs?
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wow. yeah grey scale looks way way way better.

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Re-branding

When I started my build thread, I thought my dedicated theater would have a hidden entrance so I included "Hidden" in the thread name. I obviously hadn't thought through how I was going to build a hidden entrance. After talking with a few experts, I realized a hidden entrance was not going to work without a lot of compromise.

I thought I stuck with the "Hidden" in the thread name until a few months ago when @kmhvball explained how he changed the name of his thread. Thanks!

So, today I re-branded the thread to The Salt Mine - A Dedicated Family Theater

Why "The Salt Mine"? A few weeks into the build, my kids asked me "Why are you always covered in white dust?" The first couple times, I explained what I was doing and why I was covered in drywall dust. They kept asking. Then, one day I said "I've been working in the salt mine".

The name stuck. Months into the build, long after the drywall work was done, my wife and kids would ask "Are you working in the salt mine today?" Even now, they ask "Can we go down to the salt mine to watch a movie?"

That's the story and I'm sticking with it.

Hope the name change isn't confusing to those of you who have been following along.
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Looks amazing!!
Thanks guys. We really like it too!

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I have to admit I like it, I really do, Im just not sold on that picture in the back, feels more like a lobby piece then something you put into a fairly balanced color scheme BUT that is just me and this is your theater, so if you love it then that is what truly matters.

Looking forward to more progress on this really well detailed build. Thank you.
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wow. yeah grey scale looks way way way better.
I had to go back to your previous post about the "lobby piece" in the back. I appreciated the feedback. Yes, the greyscale is a way better fit in the balanced color scheme.
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This build is amazing! Looks total kickass! So much work and so much attention to detail. When do you plan on ordering your furniture? Also how is the bass?

Considering how much beefing up the room, how is the sound transmission out of the room? I know its damn near impossible to sound proof but how loud can you turn up before they start to hear it upstairs?
Thanks for the kind words. A lot of work, but worth every minute.

The furniture was ordered back in late April/early May. I can't recall when the order was finally placed. The sectional was delivered this morning, but I haven't seen it yet.

The room is relatively small 16' x 12' x 9' high. I have a Triad Cinema Plus sub on the stage behind the AT screen and a Triad in wall balancing sub in the left front column. Combined the bass is more than enough to shake the room.

The OSB/GG/Drywall combined with a nearly 4" thick door work wonders on sound transmission. Mid and high frequency sounds are imperceptible standing just outside the closed door even when the volume is cranked pretty high. The bass is a different story. When I crank the bass, low frequency rumbles can be felt just above the theater and just outside. The bass is substantially reduced, but it is perceptible.

The important thing for me is I no longer get "Turn that down!" nasty gram text messages from my wife at 10pm. That's a win for me.

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perfect name change. dont forget to adjust your signature. and congrats again, looks awesome!

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