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does screen wall fabric need to be fire rated? and fabric recommendations

I am about to order the fabric I need for the screen wall and was all about GOM 701 in black...mainly because it is fire rated - but is it needed? - are there other blacker fire rated options out there? I have see people mention hancocks and joanns as well as a screen fabric source - My biggest requirement is that my remotes can fire though it and it is black but not shiny -

I have done a search on here but many of the direct links to the fabric sites are no longer valid

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Great question, I'd be curious to see the answer. But for you, where are you getting your fabric and how much will it cost?
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this is the least expensive I have found - http://www.fabricmatestore.com/c-205...el-fabric.aspx

for 12 yards it comes in at $204 - it says they will contact me with shipping and tax cost -

the fabric is wide enough for me to cut it in half and still use it on most of my panels -
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this is the least expensive I have found - http://www.fabricmatestore.com/c-205...el-fabric.aspx

for 12 yards it comes in at $204 - it says they will contact me with shipping and tax cost -

the fabric is wide enough for me to cut it in half and still use it on most of my panels -
Thanks for the info, look forward to seeing others reply as well.
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I asked the same question to Big the other day and if your speakers don't have to shoot through the fabric at all then you shouldn't have to worry about it being acoustically transparent.

Get GOM from fabricmate from the link above.

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nothing has to be acoustically transparent - just remote transparent - is the gom really black? or a light black? only reason i ask is that i saw an old thread that big posted in (i think it was his own build) where took a photo of 701 and some micro velvet and the 701 looked lighter - but in a light controlled room will it matter? i currently only have 2 cans in the back of the room will have 2 sconces on one side wall and will have led behind some crown when the build is done -

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my current favorite is Royalty 3 black velvet from Joannes wait for a 40-50 % discount. They show up all the time, Your local store may not have it in stock. I order on-line.
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my current favorite is Royalty 3 black velvet from Joannes wait for a 40-50 % discount. They show up all the time, Your local store may not have it in stock. I order on-line.
Can subs be behind this?
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my current favorite is Royalty 3 black velvet from Joannes wait for a 40-50 % discount. They show up all the time, Your local store may not have it in stock. I order on-line.
Any comments on the black velvet from syfabrics.com. I got the swatch and it looked pretty good.
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any thoughts on this - http://www.joann.com/utility-fabric-...peaker&start=3

also any thoughts on the fire rated part of my question?

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Professional theater designers will usually specify fire rated materials for liability reasons.

Most guys here live on the edge and aren't particularly concerned with making sure all the furnishings in their house are fire rated.

The incidence of butt-kicker amps going up in smoke (several) far exceeds the reported fabric fires (none),
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Here's my favorite thread on the topic:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...r-go-back.html

I've used joann's black velvet that Jeff had already mentioned. Another choice of high quality material that may fit your needs but more expensive from seymour screens:

Fidelio velvet We sell the highest quality, blackets velvet available anywhere, not just for our fixed frame screens and panels, but for staple jockeys everywhere. It's 48" width easily accommodates four frame pieces and typical masking panel sizes.
Baritone velvet A great alternative for wall covering, our new 60" wide Baritone velvet is nearly as black as Fidelio, at a lower cost.

http://www.seymourav.com/screensDIY.asp

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http://www.seymourav.com/store.asp
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thanks - i am wanting to keep it under about $17 a yard - I have a gom sample coming in the mail to give me an idea and I may stop by joanns today to see what they have -
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i received my sample of gom 701 I like the look and it is plenty black for me - i like the blackerness of velvet but just do not like the idea the need to run a lint brush over it...I have too many kids that keep me on my cleaning toes that the ht needs to be a place of peace :-) thanks for the info!
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My velvet from SyFabrics has been up for several years. I've never had to take a lint brush to it and my URC remote fires through it no problem (to an Insteon IRLinc). I occasionally clean the velvet used on my screen frame, but that has a lip to it so it tends to catch some dust. For less than $8/yd, this velvet will give you the same level of blackness as your screen frame. You might want to order a sample and hold it up to the GOM before you make your final decision.
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I was looking at joanns and here is what i come up with -

http://www.joann.com/royalty-3-velvet/xprd728568.html

http://www.joann.com/stretch-velvet/xprd768914.html

http://www.joann.com/premier-velvet/xprd540653.html

I am going to try and make it there today with my gom sample in hand - the total with coupon for the royalty 3 is $129 for the 13 yards that they have in stock I will need 16 due to the width. the 13 would cover all but one panel that i am not building until i have the screen is up to make sure i have a snug fit - this will at least give me a better visual comparison - does anyone know if the royalty fabric has any remote signal issues? i will have my equip behind the fabric in the front of the room and am worried that it may be too thick for the remote signal -

i know the the syfabric is only a dollar for a sample but i am not a fan of paying for samples - and since big recommended the royalty then i will check it out -
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so i was able to compare the gom and velvet from joanns and i agree that when together the velvet is much blacker and looks great but i do not see how i would be able to use a remote though the fabric as it is quite thick, has a tight weave and has a backing to it whereas the gom has the weave that will let me use my remotes - if my av gear was not in the front of the room then i would be all about the velvet but when holding the gom in my room it is blacker than my dark black paint - and from a visual standpoint i think it will still look great...unless someone in a black velvet dress stand in the room -
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You could use a repeater that has a small eye outside the screen wall then a blaster or individual sticky pad repeaters that you position over the eyes of each piece of gear. Or an RF to IR universal remote, or the Irule IPad setup.

Many guys have their gear outside the theater room and are able to control it just fine.
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Is your screen AT? Just put the IR eye behind your screen - it will work just fine.

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no it will not be an at screen - i will look into the repeater options - any suggestions - I have the avr, bd player, xbox 360, wii u and an hd tuner for over the air tv -
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There is a 50% off coupon on Joanne's website good until Saturday.
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I have the coupon - I printed it from their site - my main thing i guess that holds me back is the remote issue and the cleaning issue - but looking at the repeaters the cost of the velvet and the repeater will equal the 701 - i am worried that the velvet will look more worn over time with my kids opening the door panels - and the lint issue -
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If you are covering walls or a lot of paneling in fabric, I can not stress enough to use fire rated fabric. Sure you can live on the edge, but why? For the amount we spend on everything else in a room, to go cheap and run risk is not vary smart.

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that is my wifes thought as well - this will be on the entire screen wall and will cover our movie shelves to the left and below the screen and the a/v equip to the right - looking at it last night 701 looks pretty darn black in the room - in fact it is blacker than the mouse ears paint - i like that it has more of an open weave as well for the remotes and will not need a repeater - we will be ordering the 701 this week -

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