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I bet you can see the end coming soon for you! It's exciting when the carpet is in and the seats are in place! What's next on the list for the room.
Yes, I can see the light but I know I still have a TON of work to do. I gave my self 4 months to complete it (I need it done for the season premier of Walking Dead in October)

I have already started work on the acoustic panels, I am doing the 2x2' square staggered, 1.5", 2.5" and 3.5" thicknesses, I just haven't taken any photos yet.. so that is going to be ongoing but next up is the corner bass traps and the front wall acoustic treatments. For the side walls I will need 36 Panels and then in the back of the theater I will be doing 3.5" 2x4 panels (this is all ongoing as I have time and don't have the ability to work in the house due to noise)

I needed the carpet done to do all this.
Here are the next 3 steps I have planned

First, Front Acoustic treatments 2" JM IIG Minwool up front <-- Might start this tonight, all depends if I have time
Second, Corner Base traps with 3" Roxul Safe and sound <-- Already started a bit on this
Third will be the minimalist screen wall <- Still need final dimensions of screen. I want a 110" but my wife wants smaller.. so we will see. I think this might require me to buy a projector, set it up and watch some tv / movies with it to get a good size and WAF
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At lunch I went down to South Austin (SPI Insulation) and filled the car with 2" JM IIG MinWool-1200 Industrial Board 1280

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I still cannot find Linacoustic so I might have to use this stuff up front
Standard Supply in Austin is where i bought my Linacoustic RC. I bought the 1'' in thick linacoustic and used 2 layers for my screen wall. Are you only doing the screen wall? We could split the cost if you decide to buy the 1'' thick stuff.
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Standard Supply in Austin is where i bought my Linacoustic RC. I bought the 1'' in thick linacoustic and used 2 layers for my screen wall. Are you only doing the screen wall? We could split the cost if you decide to buy the 1'' thick stuff.
Are you making another buy or you have some left over? I think I have ~150 sqft (I will calculate when I get home) of wall to cover with the Linacoustic which would need 2 layers, so ~300sqft
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I need to buy more. Are you using poly batting for panels above ear level? If so where are you buying it?
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I need to buy more. Are you using poly batting for panels above ear level? If so where are you buying it?
Let me check the actual sq. footage I need on the linacoustic

For the panels above ear level I will prob still use either 1" OC703 or IIG MinWool 2"

OC703 I ordered online at Buy Insulation Products... they were well / competitively priced even to local here in Austin.. I should be getting it in the mail(UPS) this evening so I will see if it actually comes / is what they said it was.

The MinWool I am getting from SPI in South Austin


What is the thought behind poly batting on the higher panels? is this recommended? If it is, from the looks of it it is probably cheaper than the OC or the MinWool
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That's what was recommended to me by Big. He would have to explain that part. It would be cheaper but the amount you have to buy still makes it a little expensive.
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I did my math wrong. I just talk to Hancock fabrics off lakeline and they have 96'' wide 1'' thick poly batting for 4.89 a yd. So it's not that expensive.
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Standard Supply in Austin is where i bought my Linacoustic RC. I bought the 1'' in thick linacoustic and used 2 layers for my screen wall. Are you only doing the screen wall? We could split the cost if you decide to buy the 1'' thick stuff.
How much Linacoustic are you needing to finish up your screen wall? Looking into it I have 157sqft to cover on my screen wall (the alcove really adds a lot of sqft) so to so 2 layers I would need a minimum 325 sqft and that is if I have zero waist. Looks as if the Linacoustic comes in 100' x 47.5" which comes out to 396sqft. If you are only needing a few sqft to finish your project I think it would be a great idea to split the cost.

I think I will look into the poly batting on the top layer of panels.. that is a great way to reduce the cost... and Lakeline is just around the corner!!


I did get the OC703 last night and I got exactly what I wanted 12 sheets at 1" so the buy insulation online place is legit. SPI wanted about $30 more for the same product but faced (I would have had to strip the facing off) so I am happy there.

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I also finished the step on the stage last night, I will post pictures later today. I am REALLY happy with how it turned out
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dm_rep, do you have a build thread?

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For the panels above ear level I will prob still use either 1" OC703 or IIG MinWool 2"
What is the thought behind poly batting on the higher panels? is this recommended? If it is, from the looks of it it is probably cheaper than the OC or the MinWool
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That's what was recommended to me by Big. He would have to explain that part. It would be cheaper but the amount you have to buy still makes it a little expensive.
The poly batting is just to provide some sort of "structure" behind your fabric so when someone touches the panel, it doesn't pull or misshape the fabric. You definitely don't want to use OC703 or Minwool as you'll likely deaden the sound too much. If your panels are small and the fabric is pulled real tight, you don't even need poly batting.

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The poly batting is just to provide some sort of "structure" behind your fabric so when someone touches the panel, it doesn't pull or misshape the fabric. You definitely don't want to use OC703 or Minwool as you'll likely deaden the sound too much. If your panels are small and the fabric is pulled real tight, you don't even need poly batting.
Ok, this makes total sense.. thanks for the explanation!
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7/7/2015

I finished up the 3 sizes of acoustic panels I will be using
Each panel is approx 2'x2' (actual measurements 2'1.5" x 2' 1.5") Unfortunately the OC703 is 2' x 3' 11 3/4" rather than 2'x4' which makes the panels not fully friction fit. The MinWool is perfect 2'x4'
1.5" filled with 1" OC703
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I will most likely fill some of them with PolyBatt per suggestions from above, these will most likely be the top row of panels
I will have 3 rows of panels high and 6 columns for a total of 36 panels for the side walls and then I will be doing all 3.5" panels on the back wall (most likely 2'x4' rather than the side panel size of 2'x2')
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I have a question on the Front wall acoustic treatments.

I am going to do 2" MinWool treatment in the alcove for sure (Red Areas)
The question I have, do I need the treatments above the alcove (Green area)?

Second, There are electrical plugs as well as the speaker wires etc on the front wall.. What do I do about the treatments around those plugs? Do I just cut a rectangle hole in the MinWool? Do I need to extend the box?
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7/11/2015 - 7/12/2015

Over the weekend I did some work on the screen wall acoustical treatments. I had to extend the electrical and low voltage boxes out 2 inches so that I could still access them. I did this by using some 1x2 pine and creating a box. I then used old work boxes to extend the outlets. They really doesn't look pretty but it gets the job done. I also plan on doing some sort of black fabric on the back wall so it will help to cover the bad "woodworksmanship". And if I do not do fabric back there, oh well it is behind the screen
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I also started on the 2" Minwool in the back by cutting out the holes for the electrical boxes. So far I am happy with out it looks. I also worked on securing the corner bass traps for which I will post a picture later (I realized I forgot to take a picture)

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The wife and I also went out and got a few paint samples to see what color we wanted to to the walls and ceiling. We settled on 'Secret Society' by Behr for the ceiling and we opted for just 100% coverage of black staggered panels on the side and rear walls. Much like @Pain Infliction 's Thompson Theater Thread.
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Nice choice! I will be following your thread to see the progress. You forgot the "p" in Thompson, but a lot of people do.

I am out in the filed right now and will read this thread when I get back to the office. I also haven't updated my thread in while but basically every sub is hidden now.

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Nice choice! I will be following your thread to see the progress. You forgot the "p" in Thompson, but a lot of people do.

I am out in the filed right now and will read this thread when I get back to the office. I also haven't updated my thread in while but basically every sub is hidden now.
My wife saw your thread and really fell in love with it. Hope you don't mind me borrowing your ideas
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My wife saw your thread and really fell in love with it. Hope you don't mind me borrowing your ideas

Not at all! I was actually the second person to do this, so it wasn't my idea to begin with. Landshark and Big did it first.

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Not at all! I was actually the second person to do this, so it wasn't my idea to begin with. Landshark and Big did it first.
Yea, I saw Landshark and I love his theater as well.. but with your's being all black, I referred to yours.. I posted a question on your thread about the fabric you used.


"I saw from one of your posts you used Black Burlap from ATS, How well did the burlap cover the acoustical treatments? How hard was it to work with? My wife has worked with burlap in the past and said it would be an absolute pain the a** to work with on the panels.

Did you get the extra fire retardant on the burlap?"
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Answered in my thread.
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Here are the test paint areas my wife and I stared at all day Saturday only to come to the conclusion that we didn't want to paint the walls. The dark blue on the left is the color of the ceiling

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Here are the "finished" bass traps, In buying material I thought I would have enough of the triangles even if I compensated for compression... obviously I didn't compensate enough and I am 3 triangles on each side short

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Masking of screen

Hey everyone, I need a little help.

I would like some ideas on masking my screen. I have been planning on doing a no frame screen and then masking the top,bottom, left and right. I ran into a roadblock last night when my wife and my self were going over our final plans for the screen and I needed some advice.

I am going to attach the screen to the right wall with door hinges I want the screen to swing out from left to right so that I can access behind the screen. I have thought about doing a swing up type screen but since I have this wall on the right for which has 3x 2x4 I believe that if I get some big enough screws I can secure it pretty good to the wall and have it support the weight of the screen (I will have some sort of a latch for the screen when it is closed so it doesn't sag. Most likely I will have a shelf made out of scraps that the screen will sit on

Now the issue is. If I do masking on the left and right of the screen, and top and bottom. If I want to move the screen / open it I need to remove all the masking. This poses a problem.

I have looked at several different options, some using magnets (Magnets might be an issue since I am doing a spandex screen) but does anyone else have any ideas I have not thought of?
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I ordered my Projector today, Sony HW40ES, hopefully I will have it Wed of next week
I also ordered my Rear, Surround and Center Speakers today

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Front Mains: Polk Audio RTi8
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Why not just friction fit the masking panels or use dowels like speaker grills use. I just have mine friction fitted.

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Why not just friction fit the masking panels or use dowels like speaker grills use. I just have mine friction fitted.
Do you have any photos of your screen wall / masking that I could take a look at? I looked through your thread and couldn't find any.
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No, I never took photos of making them.

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Afterwork yesterday I worked on a few of the wall panels. Wow, what a p.i.t.a. I cut enough boards for 11 panels but only got 4 built. Even with a Jig to cut and screw them together it takes for ever.

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Per a suggestions by Pain Infliction I ordered a few yards of black fire retardant burlap from ATS. It feels great, seems to have a much tighter weave then burlap I have seen at JoAnn fabrics and other local fabric stores. It is only about $11.25 a yard ($6 for the fabric and 5.25 for the treatment)

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Looking forward to covering a few panels this weekend to see how they look!
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Afterwork yesterday I worked on a few of the wall panels. Wow, what a p.i.t.a. I cut enough boards for 11 panels but only got 4 built. Even with a Jig to cut and screw them together it takes for ever.

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Two suggestions:
1) clamps are helpful. In your 2nd picture, I clamped the piece at the top so I did not have to use a hand to hold that in place. I often used 2 clamps on that piece to prevent any movement.
2) work at waist level so you have broader range of motion and less back fatigue.

Once you get a good rhythm going, your progress will accelerate.

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Two suggestions:
1) clamps are helpful. In your 2nd picture, I clamped the piece at the top so I did not have to use a hand to hold that in place. I often used 2 clamps on that piece to prevent any movement.
2) work at waist level so you have broader range of motion and less back fatigue.

Once you get a good rhythm going, your progress will accelerate.
Thank you for the suggestions, I didn't even think of using clamps but that is brilliant, I will definitely do that.

I unfortunately have no workbench in the garage, or even anything to set things on.. but I think you are right, it takes me prob twice as long to do these and well I start to get pretty sore from sitting on the cement. At least I have 2 drills (one for pilot and one for screw) so I don't have to keep switching bits. I will try to find something around the house I can set in there, or maybe bring the process in side and work on my wife's craft table... hmm I wonder if she would be ok with that
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Painting

7/18/2015

Today I painted the ceiling to the room. I painted it Behr Secret Society Flat.

First I had to go through and cover the entire theater in plastic

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I wanted to try out my new paint gun so I went a little over board I preparation. I also had no clue how much overspray was going to be produced so I went a little overboard on suiting up as well

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I realized that the paint gun kinda sucked for the ceiling, since it was gravity fed it really did not work too well painting up. It did a great job though on the corners and cut in areas. It got to a point where it was completely un bearable in the room without ventilation so after painting all the edges I moved to the roller.

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The Spray gun through was AWESOME for painting the can lights and the AC grills. Definitely worth the money and I will be able to use it on some other home projects (the wife is already talking about painting a few more rooms, luckily with those rooms there will be windows

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