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His room is narrow and only a few seats wide, that's a bad solutiom for his room IMO.
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His room is narrow and only a few seats wide, that's a bad solutiom for his room IMO.

It's just that, a suggestion, only JJ will know what sounds best to him and different approaches
will help him decide. I don't see how a narrow room would make my suggestion that BAD of a solution. What's yours?
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Setup of WG Speakers

Seems to me that extreme toe in would deliver the benefits of a stable front image, wide sweet spot and improved reflections even to a listening area with only two seats. Wouldn't reducing toe in simply reduce these benefits and not really add anything?

Try three set ups and listen from each seat. Speakers pointed directly ahead, pointed at center listener, and then each speaker pointed to furthest opposite seat. As you progress to the extreme toe in position, the image should ultimately remain stable no matter where you sit. The sound should also envelope you more and not sound colored due to improved reflections.

(Basically I'm just summarizing the wave guide setup document I linked above)
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Problem is that document wasn't written by an acoustician. There is more to consider like what reflections you hear, what kind of sound it is, the material and behavior of the walls etc... I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm more just promoting caution and intelligent thought.
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I watched my first blue ray in the theater last nigh! Not the best movie Jurassic Park 4 but it sounded excellent. I was super happy with my choice. Speakers are all still pointed directly at the center seat. Which is fine cause I sit there :-)

I dont care about my second row the people sitting there most likely will be impressed with the size of the screen and how rummblie the bass gets alone. I may add some rear surrounds though. Maybe this winter when I get board
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I watched my first blue ray in the theater last nigh! Not the best movie Jurassic Park 4 but it sounded excellent. I was super happy with my choice. Speakers are all still pointed directly at the center seat. Which is fine cause I sit there :-)

I dont care about my second row the people sitting there most likely will be impressed with the size of the screen and how rummblie the bass gets alone. I may add some rear surrounds though. Maybe this winter when I get board
NIce!!


I am just now waiting for the 1099 to be back in stock to order...then I am all in for DIY!
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I am just now waiting for the 1099 to be back in stock to order...then I am all in for DIY!
Coming from the PSA's its a large upgrade. Cleaner, clearer, more dynamic, better low end and overall a more realistic sound. The wife @MrsSlush also agreed they sounded better than everything we had setup so far.

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Coming from the PSA's its a large upgrade. Cleaner, clearer, more dynamic, better low end and overall a more realistic sound. The wife @MrsSlush also agreed they sounded better than everything we had setup so far.
DAMNIT!! now I really cant wait for them to back in STOCK!!! grrr

in the meantime...IM gonna build 4 volt 8's for surrounds...that way I can take my time with the 1099's

I will use 3 of the volt 8'sfor LCR duty until the 1099's are complete

then Ill be 7.x.4 all DIY
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Problem is that document wasn't written by an acoustician.


"Credit where credit is due: Don Keele, Earl Geddes, Tom Danley, Wayne Parham, Duke Lejeune, and Zilch have discussed these concepts, as applied to horn/waveguide based loudspeakers, in various articles and forum posts."

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I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm more just promoting caution and intelligent thought.
Caution and intelligent thought would be to try all the different toe in scenarios and then do what sounds best. I'm dropping the subject now.
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DAMNIT!! now I really cant wait for them to back in STOCK!!! grrr

in the meantime...IM gonna build 4 volt 8's for surrounds...that way I can take my time with the 1099's

I will use 3 of the volt 8'sfor LCR duty until the 1099's are complete

then Ill be 7.x.4 all DIY
You're making me anxious for my own volt delivery!
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You're making me anxious for my own volt delivery!
how long ago did you order them?

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would my MT110sr's match ok with 1099's? or am I better off going all volts for surrounds?
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how long ago did you order them?
Volt 10 lx. I think it was Oct 21st and they haven't shipped yet. That's ok, I got plenty of other things going on right now. Do you want to hear them before you order?
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would my MT110sr's match ok with 1099's? or am I better off going all volts for surrounds?
Its not like you need to voice match your fronts with surrounds. Even the volts are not designed to be the surrounds for the 1099's but they do work pretty well as surrounds.

You can use pretty much anything I would think assuming they are similar speaker types. Horns with horns, dome teeters with silk dome tweeters. Im using my old klipsch speakers for surrounds at the moment. They are not the best surrounds but, you cant really hear surrounds much and I bet I wouldnt notice a difference if I changed them out to something else.

But Yea, I think they would work just fine. They both are horns and I think they use the same 10" woofer.
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True. But all identical speakers. Is pretty sweet (what I have now)

Only reason to get rid of them is the major price difference between 1 volt and 1 mt110sr

And all DIY
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True. But all identical speakers. Is pretty sweet (what I have now)

Only reason to get rid of them is the major price difference between 1 volt and 1 mt110sr

And all DIY
Just do the Volts

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Nice! Now you just have to build them at lemonslush speed.
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Nice! Now you just have to build them at lemonslush speed.
I DID build my 4 atmos volt6's this past weekend in 2 days.
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how long ago did you order them?
Came home today to two more boxes of glorious DIY goodness.

I asked my wife if she carried them in herself but she said the fedex guy wouldn't let her because they were too heavy. EH has got to be the most in shape guy on the forums. My wife then asked what was in the boxes and I told her more speakers for the family room remodel and she just rolled her eyes and went upstairs. It's always better to ask for forgiveness!
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Added some updates to the setup. Decided I didnt need to go prepro cause I cant tell a difference from using amps to the AVR. Figured since I have the amps might as well use a few but cut back on running all channels from external amps and wanted to keep all the amps on a single rack for easy on off.

Projector :
BenQ HT3550
AVR:
Denon 3600
Amps:
Crown DSI1000 x 3 power only 5 channels
Sub Amps:
Inuke 6k x 2
Inuke3k x 2

Power:
two dedicated 20 amps runs and one 15 amp
Furman power strip conditioner
Geist 30 amp rack strips

Speakers:
1099 LCR
Klipsch RS3II surround
Klipsch rear surrounds
Klipsch 5800CII x 4 atmos

Subs:
Ht18 v1 ported @18hz X11

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HTPC
Apple tv 4k
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And a tip for anyone installing Atmos into a existing ceiling with blown insulation above. Run your wires with a small hole. Cut a hole in the center of your cut template. Trace it on the ceiling. Cut your hole 95% and grab a some insulation like a 16x16 piece. Push it up thought the hole with the drywall on top. It keeps all the blown insulation up there and sheetrock adds a nice weight to keep everything in place. Speaker back doesn't touch the blown insulation and it sounds just fine. No need for a back box. I used pink fluff and a layer of denim insulation on top cause why not.

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Looks great, you should probably get rid of the Crowns though.
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Looks great, you should probably get rid of the Crowns though.
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Looks great, you should probably get rid of the Crowns though.


Why get rid of the crowns? I was thinking about getting some as well.


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