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Appreciate that mate, I absolutely will.



I was originally going to do speakers behind screen with a baffle, but I really really want to show off my speakers lol. Any down side to not doing that?


I’d put speakers behind the screen before trying to show them off. Nothing’s better then sitting in a theater like this one and not expecting to have your head gently blown off your shoulders by the incredible sound. When people see speakers, they start judging before one note is uttered.
And it’s generally better to have the speakers behind the screen matching up to the on screen action. Depending on the geometry of how things work out. Some prefer the L and R being out wider. But even then, I’d hide them behind speaker cloth. Just my opinion
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I second what JK7.2 has said, I will add there is nothing better than having all your front stage LCRs at ear level especially your centre channel.


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Appreciate that mate, I absolutely will.

I was originally going to do speakers behind screen with a baffle, but I really really want to show off my speakers lol. Any down side to not doing that?
I definitely agree with Jk 7.2. There just something about having everything hidden my atmos and 2 rear subs are the only visible speakers in the room plus building the speakers into a baffle dramatically increased there performance

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I definitely agree with Jk 7.2. There just something about having everything hidden my atmos and 2 rear subs are the only visible speakers in the room plus building the speakers into a baffle dramatically increased there performance

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What's the space behind your screen? With only 6.5m to play with I really didn't want to lose around 700mm bringing the screen forward. Or am I worrying about nothing in that regards?
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What's the space behind your screen? With only 6.5m to play with I really didn't want to lose around 700mm bringing the screen forward. Or am I worrying about nothing in that regards?
My room was over 10 meters long so I have like 2 meters back there I wouldent worry about 2 ft or 700 mm . I guess the better question is how many rows of seats are you looking to do

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I second what JK7.2 has said, I will add there is nothing better than having all your front stage LCRs at ear level especially your centre channel.


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That's another great point it let's you place the speakers in there ideal location

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My room was over 10 meters long so I have like 2 meters back there I wouldent worry about 2 ft or 700 mm . I guess the better question is how many rows of seats are you looking to do

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Am only looking to do 2 rows
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You can get away with the 27 inchs or 700 mm. Cdy2179 room is 5.5 meters or so and he has 2 rows plus a baffle wall and quite a large screen also

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You can get away with the 27 inchs or 700 mm. Cdy2179 room is 5.5 meters or so and he has 2 rows plus a baffle wall and quite a large screen also

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and so begins the read through of his build
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and so begins the read through of his build
Lol yeah he helped me out a ton through my build I took many of my ideas from his build and a few others. Its definitely a good read.

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Lol yeah he helped me out a ton through my build I took many of my ideas from his build and a few others. Its definitely a good read.

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Love what he did with putting the columns in paint spraying them and then putting the foam panel in and fabric over the top, looks a brilliant way of cutting time down and farting around.

My next problem is going to be settling on speakers. Living in NZ nothing is cheap and shipping from the USA for ones I can get is mental. I've looked at the Klipsch 650 THX and PSA m210s, they're most easily available speakers to get here and get shipped here, anything else you think I should add to the list?
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Let me do a little research I always recommend diysoundgroup speakers but guessing shipping would be pretty crazy. Also what's your budget
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Love what he did with putting the columns in paint spraying them and then putting the foam panel in and fabric over the top, looks a brilliant way of cutting time down and farting around.

My next problem is going to be settling on speakers. Living in NZ nothing is cheap and shipping from the USA for ones I can get is mental. I've looked at the Klipsch 650 THX and PSA m210s, they're most easily available speakers to get here and get shipped here, anything else you think I should add to the list?
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Let me do a little research I always recommend diysoundgroup speakers but guessing shipping would be pretty crazy. Also what's your budget

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would like to keep the front 3 speakers under $10knzd
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would like to keep the front 3 speakers under $10knzd
In usd that's like 6600 bucks so I feel like even with high shipping from diysoundgroup you would still be way under that and have great sounding speakers there titan 615 is really great sounding and is fairly similar to my speakers. There fusion 15 would also be a great fit in your room size .it wouldn't hurt to see what he charges for shipping. You do have to assemble the speakers yourself that's where all the cost savings are but it's super easy

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would like to keep the front 3 speakers under $10knzd
In usd that's like 6600 bucks so I feel like even with high shipping from diysoundgroup you would still be way under that and have great sounding speakers there titan 615 is really great sounding and is fairly similar to my speakers. There fusion 15 would also be a great fit in your room size .it wouldn't hurt to see what he charges for shipping. You do have to assemble the speakers yourself that's where all the cost savings are but it's super easy

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My father in law is a bit of a DYI whizz so I'm sure he'd love to help piece em together.

I'll have another look at their stuff, looked at if a few years ago. Pretty sure shipping is really reasonable.
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My father in law is a bit of a DYI whizz so I'm sure he'd love to help piece em together.

I'll have another look at their stuff, looked at if a few years ago. Pretty sure shipping is really reasonable.
The titans are like 600 usd a piece by the time everything said and done I bet your still under 5000 nzd and for the last size room that's a end game speaker I dont think you would ever want to change it out

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The titans are like 600 usd a piece by the time everything said and done I bet your still under 5000 nzd and for the last size room that's a end game speaker I dont think you would ever want to change it out

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Walk me through the Titan, what benefits am I getting over something like the Apollo? Which is a beautiful looking beast.
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Walk me through the Titan, what benefits am I getting over something like the Apollo? Which is a beautiful looking beast.
Both will be great but the titan is more of a cinima style speaker. It's going to give you way more headroom and also will sound more dynamic. You'll also have more mid bass if your running them full range. They sound similar to my speakers which I love. Just much cheaper to buy most of the time.

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Both will be great but the titan is more of a cinima style speaker. It's going to give you way more headroom and also will sound more dynamic. You'll also have more mid bass if your running them full range. They sound similar to my speakers which I love. Just much cheaper to buy most of the time.

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Key things for me with speaker sound is tight low end, warm sound and open, clear vocals.
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Key things for me with speaker sound is tight low end, warm sound and open, clear vocals.
Ask JK 7.2 and eng 399 they'll both say they meet all your criteria

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The titans are very good at cinema. The directivity of the waveguides makes a nice wide soundstage. Very smooth top end. I wouldn’t call them warm. Crystal clear vocals though. I recommend you audition a pair if you can. The other speakers mentioned are full range 2 channel speakers. Low efficiency. Not that they wouldn’t work for theater and movies, just not designed for it. Titans are high efficiency for dynamic range and loudness without strain or fatigue.
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The titans are very good at cinema. The directivity of the waveguides makes a nice wide soundstage. Very smooth top end. I wouldn’t call them warm. Crystal clear vocals though. I recommend you audition a pair if you can. The other speakers mentioned are full range 2 channel speakers. Low efficiency. Not that they wouldn’t work for theater and movies, just not designed for it. Titans are high efficiency for dynamic range and loudness without strain or fatigue.
Not a chance in hell of finding any in NZ to audition.
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Not a chance in hell of finding any in NZ to audition.


Yeah, until you build them!
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I think the best word to describe the Titan's is "transparent". Give them a good source and some power and they sound amazing. Give them a crappy source and they will sound crappy. They have a very flat response, and are super dynamic, especially with some power behind them.
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Not a chance in hell of finding any in NZ to audition.


Yeah, until you build them!
Which isn't happening because they don't ship internationally, despite having a shipping drop down for every country as an option....

Power Sound Audio then?
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Which isn't happening because they don't ship internationally, despite having a shipping drop down for every country as an option....

Power Sound Audio then?
Man that's a bummer I haven't really heard any if tge psa

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Which isn't happening because they don't ship internationally, despite having a shipping drop down for every country as an option....

Power Sound Audio then?
email @Erich H . I swear I remember seeing many people getting them internationally

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email @Erich H . I swear I remember seeing many people getting them internationally
I also thought I remember somebody from the UK getting a set of titans

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Which isn't happening because they don't ship internationally, despite having a shipping drop down for every country as an option....

People just use a shipping forwarder.

Guys in Denmark, Norway, Sweden love JetCarrier. People from New Zealand use YouShop which is a direct shipping forwarder from the US to your country:

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/youshop


The DIY site isn't accurate enough to figure shipping costs to another country. There's some extra averaged in on kits and flat packs to cover when shipping charges might be off a little within the US. But shipping costs to other countries can be drastically different when weights are off by just a few pounds. There's not enough money left over on kits to chance being off by very much.
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People just use a shipping forwarder.

Guys in Denmark, Norway, Sweden love JetCarrier. People from New Zealand use YouShop which is a direct shipping forwarder from the US to your country:

https://www.nzpost.co.nz/tools/youshop


The DIY site isn't accurate enough to figure shipping costs to another country. There's some extra averaged in on kits and flat packs to cover when shipping charges might be off a little within the US. But shipping costs to other countries can be drastically different when weights are off by just a few pounds. There's not enough money left over on kits to chance being off by very much.
Thanks Erich I knew I've seen multiple people with kits in other countries

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