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post #211 of 346 Old 10-25-2017, 11:46 AM - Thread Starter
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Also, I suppose this is as good a time as any to report my surround speakers are in! Got to start building backer boxes for those soon.
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How much work or expense is it really, to do that fire coat?

Not much, and maybe you don't don't use drywall mud but something like Durabond 45 or 90. That product really
reinforces joints to protect against cracking. It's not very sand-able, but I figure my next theater drywall won't be
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How much work or expense is it really, to do that fire coat?

Not much, and maybe you don't don't use drywall mud but something like Durabond 45 or 90. That product really
reinforces joints to protect against cracking. It's not very sand-able, but I figure my next theater drywall won't be
showing anywhere.
Not much work at all and I rather like taping and mudding (weird right?) I built my basement wood shop with the same principles as the theater (osb + drywall) after almost two years there is not so much as a hint of a crack anywhere. OSB+drywall makes for a very stable foundation.

The only place I will have exposed drywall that must be finished is on the theater ceiling/soffits and in the equipment room which is only ~ 3.5' x 8'. And for the ceiling all I really have to do are the screw holes (+texturing) because I've aligned all the joints with the box beams/coffers. (plus may still do a fiber optic star ceiling).
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It's only weird if you enjoy sanding drywall.
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@brazensol , we haven't seen any pictures in a while, how about a photo update?

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Backer boxes for Atmos speakers built and installed and ran all the speaker wires. It was a very tight fit. Also installed the first OSB ceiling panels. Put in the 2" conduit for HDMI from rack room to projector location as well as running power. Did I mention I got my new projector? JVC RS-640! Won't get installed for some time though Pics soon...

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Backer boxes for Atmos speakers built and installed and ran all the speaker wires. It was a very tight fit. Also installed the first OSB ceiling panels. Put in the 2" conduit for HDMI from rack room to projector location as well as running power. Did I mention I got my new projector? JVC RS-640! Won't get installed for some time though Pics soon...
The JVC sounds nice, but did you kn ow that Sony has the VLP-VW385ES a full 4K projector for the same price as the 640 and the VLP-VW285ES that is about $3000 less.

Projector Central has the Sony's both rated above the JVC and the 285 ES is rated #1 in the over $3000 mark.

Didn't know if you had looked at them or not.

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The JVC sounds nice, but did you kn ow that Sony has the VLP-VW385ES a full 4K projector for the same price as the 640 and the VLP-VW285ES that is about $3000 less.

Projector Central has the Sony's both rated above the JVC and the 285 ES is rated #1 in the over $3000 mark.

Didn't know if you had looked at them or not.

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Appreciate the heads-up but Sony and I are not on talking terms! I also got the JVC at the introductory price in October so less than either of the Sony's. A quick look at the list shows the JVC is brighter and better contrast. Not sure the order of the list is the actual ranking. The 520 is an "editors" choice and the Sony's are "highly" rated.

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Appreciate the heads-up but Sony and I are not on talking terms!
Sorry to hear that. I have had 3 TV's from Sony over the last 25 years or so and have had good luck with them. Enjoy the 640.
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Well, today is the 2 year anniversary of the start of this thread and build. Thought I'd finally post up a few pics of where I am currently at in the build - after many promises unfulfilled!
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Hoping to have carpet and seats in no later than the end of March!

I tried using a flat paint but just cannot tolerate how easy it is to muck up. Even a light brush-by is sometimes enough to leave smudges. I used one of the "scrub-able" formulas where you can take a damp rag and wipe it down but this doesn't work 100% of the time. I switched over to an egg-shell sheen followed by a light coat of satin wipe-on poly. Sure, there is a little shine but it is much easier to live with and I don't really foresee it being a major (or even minor really) deficit to watching movies. Time will tell.
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I don't know if anyone has used textured wall-paper before on their ceiling but I think it gives the theater a classy look. I painted it deep red to match the carpet choice and the pattern in the wall-paper is very similar to the carpet pattern. There is also gold in the carpet so I painted some of the ceiling trim gold to match. Unlike the pics the trim does look gold to the eye.

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Great work so far on the room @brazensol

Quick question regarding the use of RSLs in your columns. If you tested them already in the columns, I hope you don’t mind sharing your experience.

Also, is that a track for your projector?

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Great work so far on the room @brazensol

Quick question regarding the use of RSLs in your columns. If you tested them already in the columns, I hope you don’t mind sharing your experience.

Also, is that a track for your projector?

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I have not tested the RSL's in the column (or ceiling) as of yet because I am still deciding on whether to get the Denon 8500H or the Emotiva RMC-1. The projector is not on a track. I made the piece through which the pole extends a bit larger than the rest of the beams. I also made it removable for access to the mount base and to run wires. My first attempt to make it removable was to use magnets but it did not work well and I felt even modest bass vibrations would knock it down. I ended up using velcro which holds just fine but will wear with time. Shouldn't really be a problem though because I can't see dropping this panel very often.

One thing I will mention is that I broke a couple of the RSL mounting screws and the company is sending me several replacement screws at no charge! Great customer service after the sale.
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I have not tested the RSL's in the column (or ceiling) as of yet because I am still deciding on whether to get the Denon 8500H or the Emotiva RMC-1. The projector is not on a track. I made the piece through which the pole extends a bit larger than the rest of the beams. I also made it removable for access to the mount base and to run wires. My first attempt to make it removable was to use magnets but it did not work well and I felt even modest bass vibrations would knock it down. I ended up using velcro which holds just fine but will wear with time. Shouldn't really be a problem though because I can't see dropping this panel very often.



One thing I will mention is that I broke a couple of the RSL mounting screws and the company is sending me several replacement screws at no charge! Great customer service after the sale.

That’s very creative with the way you are hiding the base and wires that get to the projector.

I’ve decided to go with the RSLs in my ceiling for atmos but still undecided on what to use for surrounds in the columns. I hadn’t thought about using them also in the columns until @jjackkrash suggested it and the next day, I saw your build update. I heard of their awesome customer service too. At this point I have these RSLs and a couple of JBL in-walls under consideration.

Your choice of wallpaper on the ceiling also is awesome. Best wishes on the rest of your build. I will be following along closely - there is so much to learn.



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That’s very creative with the way you are hiding the base and wires that get to the projector.

I’ve decided to go with the RSLs in my ceiling for atmos but still undecided on what to use for surrounds in the columns. I hadn’t thought about using them also in the columns until @jjackkrash suggested it and the next day, I saw your build update. I heard of their awesome customer service too. At this point I have these RSLs and a couple of JBL in-walls under consideration.

Your choice of wallpaper on the ceiling also is awesome. Best wishes on the rest of your build. I will be following along closely - there is so much to learn.



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I know BrolicBeast used these speakers in his build and he is quite happy with them.
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Looking good! You'll be enjoying it in no time. Be careful getting it to a point where you can watch movies, but aren't quite done yet. I'm there and finding the motivation to finish has been tough with all the distractions.
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Looking good! You'll be enjoying it in no time. Be careful getting it to a point where you can watch movies, but aren't quite done yet. I'm there and finding the motivation to finish has been tough with all the distractions.

You guys are in Alaska.. it's still the middle of winter.. whatcha thinking you gotta do? Skiing?, Snowmachining?, trapping? shooting? preping for fishing season? staying warm?

Hang in there you guys, Spring is almost there for you all.. then the room won't get any attention.. do whatcha can...

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You guys are in Alaska.. it's still the middle of winter.. whatcha thinking you gotta do? Skiing?, Snowmachining?, trapping? shooting? preping for fishing season? staying warm?

Hang in there you guys, Spring is almost there for you all.. then the room won't get any attention.. do whatcha can...

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Looks like breakup is starting for us this week (us being the Valley) ! Forecast keeps revising the daily highs above the freezing mark! The next week is all above freezing. I am using my GI Bill to go back to school and that is cutting into my build more than I'd like...
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Almost had a major faux pas - Getting ready to button up the equipment room and realized I had not run electric yet... Sure would have sucked to realize this after osb/dd/gg and carpet were all done.

Not sure of what is underkill/overkill but I figure 3 20-amp circuits should be plenty for current component plans and anything the future throws at me.
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Put this together for about $12.00. Got the 4' piece of cord, blank wall plate, and plug at Lowe's. I picked up the cord strain relief at a local electrical supply shop. All I had to do was drill a 3/4" hole in the blank wall plate and screw the cord relief onto it. I think it looks better than the power inlet/extension cord option. YMMV
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Here is a pic of the final wall panel but without any trim. Also have not trimmed out the columns but it gives an idea of the look I am going for which is craftsman. Also included a pic of the ceiling wallpaper. The pattern is very similar (albeit not an exact match) to the carpet I will be using (pic included).
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Forgot to mention how the panels are constructed. The face frame is just basic biscuit/glue construction. I put 3" of Roxul "Safe n Sound" behind the lower panel. The upper panel got two 1/2" layers of soundboard with a 1/2" air gap between them. I really don't know how this combination will sound but I don't think it will cause any problems. The wood and its various angles should give me both reflection and dispersion of some of the sound.

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Here are some pics of the equipment room and the "power wall". There are 3 20-amp circuits; 2 for powering all the audio/video/amp boxes and one for the projector which will be plugged into a UPS. Just haven't decided which one yet. I will have a 12" x 12" grill above the equipment to vent out heat. I will be using a 6" cloudline fan for this. The warm air will be dumped into the utility room which is also open (at the top) to a large storage room. The power wall is rotated 90* You can also see the HDMI drop though the rough cut for the hot air exhaust. I still need to add a length of downpipe for future HDMI cord swaps should the need arise. There will be a removable panel giving access to this pipe.
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Here are some pics of the equipment room and the "power wall". There are 3 20-amp circuits; 2 for powering all the audio/video/amp boxes and one for the projector which will be plugged into a UPS. Just haven't decided which one yet. I will have a 12" x 12" grill above the equipment to vent out heat. I will be using a 6" cloudline fan for this. The warm air will be dumped into the utility room which is also open (at the top) to a large storage room. The power wall is rotated 90* You can also see the HDMI drop though the rough cut for the hot air exhaust. I still need to add a length of downpipe for future HDMI cord swaps should the need arise. There will be a removable panel giving access to this pipe.

Did you install any dedicated power behind screen for powered subwoofer? just a thought...

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Yes. I have two 20-amp circuits behind the screen. One for subs and the other is controlled by a voice activated Caseta dimmer switch for lighting the speakers or whatever else I might come with. As of now I don't plan on using powered subs (at least not subs with built in amps) but will use iNuke amps in the equipment room. As of now the plan is two 18-inch subs behind the screen.
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Yes. I have two 20-amp circuits behind the screen. One for subs and the other is controlled by a voice activated Caseta dimmer switch for lighting the speakers or whatever else I might come with. As of now I don't plan on using powered subs (at least not subs with built in amps) but will use iNuke amps in the equipment room. As of now the plan is two 18-inch subs behind the screen.
That's great to hear!..That's just good planning..

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As of now the plan is two 18-inch subs behind the screen.
So which one's are you thinking of going with??? ..as I am definitely in the market for 2x 18" subs myself.

I have been eyeballin the Dayton Audio 18" Ultimax Subwoofer and Cabinet Bundle with an iNuke 3000DSP... what's your thoughts... I am planning to pair these with the 12" Klipsch Reference subs I have already...

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I have been eyeballin the Dayton Audio 18" Ultimax Subwoofer and Cabinet Bundle with an iNuke 3000DSP... what's your thoughts... I am planning to pair these with the 12" Klipsch Reference subs I have already...
I was considering going with 18" HO's and building my own boxes but that 18" ultimax and box is a pretty good deal too. I bought 4 of the 15" HO's for use in the rear (building a pair of dual 15" boxes and putting them in the rear columns. You can see one of the in progress boxes in post 220). I was going to use a pair of iNuke 6000DSP's (one for the front subs and one for the rears) but if the 3000 is sufficient I could save a little money. I don't know much about sub drivers; are the ultimax's way better than the HO's? I'd also have to check on shipping prices for the bundle up to Alaska because it sure won't be free?
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I don't know much about sub drivers; are the ultimax's way better than the HO's? I'd also have to check on shipping prices for the bundle up to Alaska because it sure won't be free?
Ultimax has 10mm stroke difference. Better low end response with the additional excursion.

Here's a link of avs'rs that have tried several..

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Ultimax has 10mm stroke difference. Better low end response with the additional excursion.

Here's a link of avs'rs that have tried several..
Doesn't seem like an overwhelming preference for the UM which is kind of surprising.
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