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Well I went to Jo-Anns and did the blow test on their microsuede. It did not pass. However, I still bought it haha.
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First frame is wrapped for testing. Came out alright. Not a fan out I can see the inside lip of the wood. Believe if I route the inside corners to a rounded edge I can mitigate that.

Painted the ceiling it's first coat of flat black. Will be hitting it again today. Got the expensive stuff for $47 a gallon I need to buy another two. So far I can touch all over the flat black and not leave any marks. Works really well.

Moved the frame inside the HT to see how the fabric looked against the black, I am pleased.







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Looks good. Panels look darker in the theater than the other pictures indicate. Nicely done.

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Yeah they looked very different. Surprised me how big of a difference. Direct sunlight vs LED lights.
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For those wondering what black I went with.

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Ultradeep......is that how far down the rabbit hole you've gone?

Columns look great. Nice progress.

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First frame is wrapped for testing. Came out alright. Not a fan out I can see the inside lip of the wood. Believe if I route the inside corners to a rounded edge I can mitigate that.

Painted the ceiling it's first coat of flat black. Will be hitting it again today. Got the expensive stuff for $47 a gallon I need to buy another two. So far I can touch all over the flat black and not leave any marks. Works really well.

Moved the frame inside the HT to see how the fabric looked against the black, I am pleased.
Looks awesome!! Paint, panels everything!

Whats this blow test about?

Are you covering 100% of your walls with panels? All the same absorptive material or dif stuff high/low on the walls?
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Looks awesome!! Paint, panels everything!

Whats this blow test about?

Are you covering 100% of your walls with panels? All the same absorptive material or dif stuff high/low on the walls?
Blow test, As RTROSE puts it, is where you just blow through the fabric and see how much air passes through. With GOM and Speaker Fabric, its very breathable. So blowing through it a lot passes though the other side. Great for having sound pass through and hit your insulation.

My fabric, air passes through but not to much. So it is not great for acoustic transparency. However, I hate the look of GOM/Burlap. So I'm willing to over look this flaw.

I am not covering my walls 100% in fabric panels. Only the upper portion will be covered. All will use linacoustic as the insulation.

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Ultradeep......is that how far down the rabbit hole you've gone?

Columns look great. Nice progress.
The rabbit hole is so deep I don't know which way is up anymore. Thanks!

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First column up. Props to everyone that puts these up. It requires more work than I really expected. The column is floating off the ground, hard to see from the picture because it isn't floating by very much.

Death, how do you plan to wrap the columns in fabric? Cover entire front face and then trim to cover staples?

Also, why two holes in the front face? Because of outlets behind?

Looking awesome BTW.
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Death, how do you plan to wrap the columns in fabric? Cover entire front face and then trim to cover staples?

Also, why two holes in the front face? Because of outlets behind?

Looking awesome BTW.
Speaker grill fabric will cover the holes. Not the whole column. I will be making a trim door that has hinge/magnet to keep it close. easy access to the speaker and the outlet.

And yes, the two holes are for the outlets. You cannot have outlets without having access to them. Against code.

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Speaker grill fabric will cover the holes. Not the whole column. I will be making a trim door that has hinge/magnet to keep it close. easy access to the speaker and the outlet.

And yes, the two holes are for the outlets. You cannot have outlets without having access to them. Against code.
Beautiful thanks.

Anxious to see how you build those doors. Your progress on columns has helped me tremendously, thanks!

BTW, how deep are you columns? Also, how far do they stick out from the panels (once the panels have been hung?)
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Beautiful thanks.

Anxious to see how you build those doors. Your progress on columns has helped me tremendously, thanks!

BTW, how deep are you columns? Also, how far do they stick out from the panels (once the panels have been hung?)
I'm still planning out the doors but that should be coming soon.

The columns are 8.5" if I remember correctly. Once the panels are placed it will be 7.25" out.
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I like the way that fabric looks. I think I've settled on velvet for my front wall even before my GOM samples have arrived. I will have to keep the microsuede in mind for panels depending on how black their version of black is

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I like the way that fabric looks. I think I've settled on velvet for my front wall even before my GOM samples have arrived. I will have to keep the microsuede in mind for panels depending on how black their version of black is
Just make sure the speakers are not sitting behind the velvet and you'll be fine.

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Just make sure the speakers are not sitting behind the velvet and you'll be fine.
Yeah, they'll all be behind the screen - so we're good

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Finished the first frame. Took two hours because I had to deal with the pillar crown. I routed the inside to round off the edge and it appears to solved the issue in the test frame.

Third photo just shows the test frame up against it to show the edging meeting. I'm holding it on the wall. Not a great photo.

Still need to add insulation to it.





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Looks good. Panels look darker in the theater than the other pictures indicate. Nicely done.

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I was thinking the same thing (but wasn't going to chime in cause of of my lack of build experience)... "he's putting up white panels??" - that was my first thought... but that other picture does change the tone a whole lot.. looks good.

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I was thinking the same thing (but wasn't going to chime in cause of of my lack of build experience)... "he's putting up white panels??" - that was my first thought... but that other picture does change the tone a whole lot.. looks good.
When I was in the store they were not as dark either but the online picture made them look dark. Pretty much just decided to roll the dice and see how it looked inside. Surprising how much it changes.
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Finished the first frame. Took two hours because I had to deal with the pillar crown. I routed the inside to round off the edge and it appears to solved the issue in the test frame.

Third photo just shows the test frame up against it to show the edging meeting. I'm holding it on the wall. Not a great photo.

Still need to add insulation to it.
Looks great! Sorry to hear 2 hours. If frames take that long I'm in for a ride at the end of the project I understand the crown molding made it tough though.

With the bit of experience you have in on frames to date, any idea how many hours you expect to have in fab/hanging frames when its said and done?

Any reason you went with small frames? Aesthetics? It looks awesome but would take considerably more time than larger panels right?

What material (insulation) will you use in these?

Covering 100% of the walls?

Sorry if these questions were covered earlier.

Its looking awesome BTW.
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With the bit of experience you have in on frames to date, any idea how many hours you expect to have in fab/hanging frames when its said and done?
Now that i have all the wood cut, it mainly takes me about 10 minutes to make the frame, 10-20 mins to do the fabric, 5 to velcro, 10 for insulation. These are all rough guesses and depend on how fast or slow I take things.

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Any reason you went with small frames? Aesthetics? It looks awesome but would take considerably more time than larger panels right?
Aesthetics. I like the look of the smaller frames. If things do not line up I will go with 3 large frames between the columns.

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What material (insulation) will you use in these?
Covering 100% of the walls?
Sorry if these questions were covered earlier.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-ded...l#post46726417

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Got a few more frames up. They are not perfect. Which I expected using plywood and a not so great table saw. But not to bad. Livable.

What do you guys think?







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I like the way that fabric looks. I think I've settled on velvet for my front wall even before my GOM samples have arrived. I will have to keep the microsuede in mind for panels depending on how black their version of black is
I just bought 8 yards of velvet for the front wall and the ceiling. They had 60% off today at Jo-Anns. Saved a crap ton with that coupon.

Even with this black flat paint, I felt like I had to much light reflecting onto the ceiling. It might of been the blanket sheet that is my screen that is bouncing it off in so many directions though. Just to be safe and not miss out on a 60% discount again, I bit the bullet.
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Counter mudded and primed. Pic also shows the MDFs filled with auto body filler and sanded.


What is the distance between the bar wall and the column? My theater is just about the same width as yours and am trying to determine how deep my columns can be without feeling cramped. I'm thinking ~22" should be acceptable but don't really know.
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What is the distance between the bar wall and the column? My theater is just about the same width as yours and am trying to determine how deep my columns can be without feeling cramped. I'm thinking ~22" should be acceptable but don't really know.
22" would be more than what I'm doing. 18" is how much space I have.

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Now that i have all the wood cut, it mainly takes me about 10 minutes to make the frame, 10-20 mins to do the fabric, 5 to velcro, 10 for insulation. These are all rough guesses and depend on how fast or slow I take things.



Aesthetics. I like the look of the smaller frames. If things do not line up I will go with 3 large frames between the columns.


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hehe you asked these questions already :P
LOL, this is why you don't try to follow AVS build threads when you are extremely busy at work. Anyhow, thanks for the info (for the second time)
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I doubt anyone will notice the small mismatch of panels. That should be less visible when there are more panels, and a
larger pattern emerges.
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The panels look nice! I doubt anyone will notice the mismatch unless you point it out once it is all done.
That is a great color by the way.
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The panels look nice! I doubt anyone will notice the mismatch unless you point it out once it is all done.
That is a great color by the way.
I also doubt anyone will notice Death. However, pics can be deceiving so only u can know for sure IMO.

Panels look awesome.
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Thanks guys. I think the mis-match is defiantly livable. Not as bad as I was expecting it to be. I will be running with the smaller panel plan. I finished the first two rows today and painted the lower portion black. Will add the third row tomorrow and post up the new progress.

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