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First, I am going to apologize for the terse manner of this first post. I have been meaning to get started on this thread for some time but it kept getting sidetracked by work...life...working on the basement...all the things.

Backstory:

I have been into home audio and big TVs since my early years. My grandpa was a DIY guy to the core and he had built tube amps, speakers, etc. for as long as I can remember. He introduced me very early on to the soldering iron and to music in general.

In junior high, I had a science teacher who was the same way and had a Dynaco ST-70 kit he had built and a pair of Klipschorns in his classroom. I don't remember the sources he used other than a tape deck and a turntable. But while we would be studying for one test or another, he would play Mozart, Bach, Brahms, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, George Gershwin, Miles Davis...the list goes on and on...softly in the background.

Later on, in high school, my uncle and I would try to outdo each other with 2 channel systems. He usually won because he had his own business and my aunt was his sugar mama... . But I had an advantage at the time that he didn't...I was a blue shirt at Best Buy! I worked both car and home audio at the time and virtually 100% of every paycheck went back into the store.
After I left Best Buy (my manager left to work at his buddy's high end audio shop which he now owns), I would work at Radio Shack for a time and that sort of fired back up my DIY genes.

This of course laid the foundation for my life long love of shiny new electronics.

I met my wife in 2008 and started dating in 2009. In 2010, I moved into her 2 bedroom 1300sq ft townhouse. I brought with me my Sony HTIB and my 60" Vizio LCD. But I did so knowing that it was soon time to upgrade. The HTIB was fine for my tiny 1 bedroom apartment but was quickly underwhelming in the open floor plan lower level of the townhouse. So I began to slowly piece together a relatively modest home theater for the living room.

In March of 2015, on my birthday in fact, we hosted one of the stops on the Central Iowa Home Theater Crawl and enjoyed the feedback we had from the folks who visited our modest living room theater. There was a little bit of drama the week before the crawl as Vizio pushed a software update to my (at the time) 65" TV. This bricked the TV and the only way to fix it was to replace the main board. I found one on eBay cheap but it would not be there in time for the crawl. So my wife and I hustled off to Costco and ended up buying a 70" UHD Vizio (I love the priceerformance ratio of the brand). Once home and back up and running, I realized that the Yamaha AVR I had at the time was not 4k pass-through capable...so of course, I swapped it out with a Denon AVR-X4100W. A quick and dirty Audyssey run later and we were ready for the crawl.

On Easter Sunday of that same year, my wife went downstairs to feed our pets only to discover that there was standing water in our under stair closet, half the dining room and part of the kitchen. Our floating laminate flooring in the dining room was literally floating. Long story short, urns out that Lowes had damaged the ice maker water line when installing our new fridge and it developed a slow leak that ultimately caused $5800 worth of damage. Lowes made good on it and paid us out in a check for the damages along with a $1500 gift card to Lowes.

This gave us the opportunity to start our living room/kitchen/dining room earlier than we had planned. We replaced the flooring, granite counters in the kitchen and a stainless steel backsplash. In the living room and dining room, we installed faux stone along the entire length of the back wall.






So this was the first "final" edition of our home theater. It worked well and got good feedback from our friends who came to watch movies. It was also virtually flat from 1k on up. @Archaea did some captures on the crawl and this is what my humble adobe looked like...





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Backstory (cont):

Fast forward to July of 2015. The company I worked for lost the government contract I was on. Not through any fault of their own but because it was a small business contract and was due for rebid. And they (General Dynamics) are hardly a small business. Anyway, the new company that won the contract on-boarded all of the engineering staff. But they are firm believers in remote staff. So I was no longer going into an office. I was now 95% remote. Which presented a problem as my wife already worked from home. And I had a 17 year old daughter living with us...
Suddenly our 1300sq ft townhouse was VERY cramped.

So we started house shopping. Our original plan was to do a custom build but that just wasn't in the cards. The best compromise we could come up with was to find a house that met as much of our wants and needs as possible.
We put our place on the market and started shopping.

It was trying as it seemed like every "perfect" place we found was either in an offer/bidding war with multiple offers or was lacking too much in one way or another.
We found a floorplan we both loved. And went to a suburb/neighborhood we had not originally planned on living in to check out an existing home to see if it was what we wanted. It wasn't. So we decided to take a stroll around the neighborhood and look at the other floorplans they had available.

We walked into the second to the last house they had open and were both in love. So much so that we began discussing relocating to this other suburb. In the end, the house was perfect for us.
We both wanted a 3 car garage. She wanted an open floorplan kitchen/living room/dining room for entertaining. And I wanted an unfinished basement to build a theater, my office, a bar/den, another bathroom and ample storage (aka equipment room hehe).

Added bonus, we are 2 blocks from the notorious @dlbeck and his Savoy Theater.

We took possession of our new place in October of 2015.

I wasted no time and contacted an electrician to come do the 100amp drop to the basement the first week we were in the house.
By the end of the second month, I had half the basement framed, wired, insulated and drywalled (not mudded and taped).
Things have slowed down a bit since then because we decided at the onset that we would not go into debt building out the basement. Instead, we would rely on bonuses, tax returns and birthday/Christmas gifts to fund our basement build.



So that brings us to my naming convention.
"Blank Slate Cinema"
I would be starting with a blank slate for the theater. With only budget and my imagination my limitations.

And
"MacGillvray Pub"
My paternal grandmother's maiden name and the side of my family I always related to the most. Scotch immigrants via Canada, my great grandfather packed up his family in the early 20th century and came to North Dakota.
Always happy people, always celebrating. It seemed only natural to honor them with their own pub in my basement. Not to mention, we have an awful cool clan crest...


There's my sources for inspiration...I will continue on soon. But for now, thanks for tagging along on the journey so far.

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This looks like a cool journey. Mind if I tag along?

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Thanks David. I appreciate the help so far and the help yet to come.

David's theater performance is my performance inspiration while my design inspiration is from Pain Infliction and his Thompson Theater build. The black and grey color scheme along with somewhat similar dimensions and screen size are what drew me to his build.




I already have the equipment minus the projector and screen but I am 99% sure on those purchases.
I know you should build then equip but most of it I either had or was buying anyway so what the heck. Hehe.

I will add the equipment list later...have to entertain my dad and grandfather for dinner tonight so I need to go pick out what we will be watching.
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Currently owned equipment (and what will end up in the theater).

Processor:
Marantz AV7702

Sources:
Oppo BDP-103 (Replacing with either an Oppo UDP-203 or a Sony UBP-X800)
DirecTV Genie (Upgrading this once they start serving up more 4K content. Can't justify it for 1 4K channel)
Custom Built HTPC running Plex Media Player
Intel i5-4460 @3.2ghz
16GB RAM
Nvidia GTX1050Ti
120GB SSD for boot/apps
2TB Seagate Firecuda for games
1TB WD Green for storage

Media Library:
Dell T710
Dual Hex Core X5650 Xeons @2.6ghz
72GB RAM
Server 2012
2x535GB SSDs in RAID1 for boot/app drive
6x3TB HGST Ultrastar HDs in RAID5

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4x4TB HGST Ultrastar HDs in RAID5

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RocketStore 4 Bay Storage Enclosure
4x4TB HGST Ultrastar in RAID5

Synology DS212J NAS
2x4TB HGST Ultrastar in RAID1

Synology DS211+ NAS
2x4TB WD RED in RAID1

Western Digital My Book Duo
2x2TB WD Green in RAID1

4x Western Digital My Book
2TB WD Green for a total of 8GB of non-redundant storage

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LCR: JTR Triple8
Surrounds: 6x DIYSG Volt 8LX
Atmos: 4x DIYSG Volt 6LX

Subwoofers:
Stereo Integrity HT18D2 x 6

Amplifiers:
Emotiva XPR-5 (LCR, Rear Surround)
Behringer NU4-6000 (L&R Surrounds, 2 rows)
Behringer NU4-6000 x 2 (6 subs)
Behringer NU1000 x2 (Atmos)
Behringer EPQ-900 (2 in ceiling speakers for the bar area)

That leaves me with 2 channels of amplification that aren't being used. My plan is possibly to incorporate either tactile transducers or some nearfield subs down the road. Needless to say, power won't be much of an issue.

I have 2 30 amp circuits and 1 20 amp circuit dedicated JUST to the equipment in the rack (processing, sources, amps). The projector has its own dedicated 15 amp circuit and the seating has a dedicated 20 amp circuit. There is also a 15 amp lighting circuit along with a 15 amp general use circuit in the theater.

The bar area has 2 20 amp circuits, 1 15 amp general use and 1 15 amp lighting.

For the projector, I am 99% certain I will be going with the JVC RS520 or whatever the equivalent model is around this time next year (construction portion should be well done by then but the finishing touches have to wait for the next bonus/tax cycle).
For screen, I am going with SeymourAV. @chriscmore is local and a helluva a nice guy to boot. So this was a no brainer. Haven't finalized a size yet but I want big and immersive!

Seating is still up in the air because of model availability locally but my wife requires power recline and real leather. Which I concur with.

Anyway, have some errands to run. The next post will give some of the construction and isolation methodologies used.

Again, thank you for tagging along.
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Which one? There's 2 and they are capable of taking up to 192GB max.

Definitely overkill on the media library but then it also gives me tons of flexibility as technologies evolve.

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Sorry for the lack of updates. Truly is hard to get into the basement to work when the weather is decent outside.

Just going to copy and paste from a couple of other threads on this and another forum...


So I have been working on getting my basement finished and decided to take a break from the standard construction work to start building the rear subs for my theater.
The front stage will have 4 SI HT18D2s in DIYSG 4cf sealed enclosures stacked.
The rear subs will be in the back corners of the theater in custom built 4cf (after driver and bracing) corner cabinets housing 2 more SI HT18D2s.

The enclosures will be hidden behind fabric covered panels. I will finish them in black but I am not worried about them being perfect.
That being said, I am happy with how the first one came out. I still need to do the driver recess (waiting for my rabbet bit to show up), drill the hole on the top for the speakon and then shoot it black...after I complete the second one...




Spent the last week prepping and painting all 6 sub enclosures, 6 DIYSG Volt 8LXs in slanted ported enclosures and 4 Volt 6LXs in sealed Atmos enclosures.







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Got one last top coat to go on the speakers and then I can assemble them and get them tested and out of the way so I can resume construction on the bar and theater. Been picking up some of the decorative and finish lumber and getting that stuff ready to go...
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Which one? There's 2 and they are capable of taking up to 192GB max.

Definitely overkill on the media library but then it also gives me tons of flexibility as technologies evolve.
Where did you get those servers???? I need to get myself some of those! Hows your power bill? lol My hyper-v server is getting long in the tooth. I've got more VMs to run than ram will allow!

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Combinations of work surplus auction, eBay, Amazon, etc.

You can find dual quad cpu T710 or R710 Dells on eBay for a song all day long as well as ECC RAM for them cheap.

Most of these are built for heavy data center usage so even used, in a home environment, they should last you years.

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You can find dual quad cpu T710 or R710 Dells on eBay for a song all day long as well as ECC RAM for them cheap.

Most of these are built for heavy data center usage so even used, in a home environment, they should last you years.
There will be a date and a time for us to talk about this so I know what my next steps would be in theory to go to this..... Wont be something I can do ANYTIME soon, but you know what I mean.
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So I have been lazy on updating and even lazier on working in the basement.

I have some pictures of the current progress in the bar I need to get uploaded. I also picked up some more materials for the bar area and have been working on various other projects around the house. I will be uploading them as soon as I get them off my phone.

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Bar progress...

Did the wood walls behind and beside the bar. The walls consist of walnut, cherry, cedar, maple, oak and poplar (varying stain colors). The walnut and cherry used in the walls was 1/2" lumber that a friend's grandfather harvested from his farm in the Iowa River valley in 1947 and then put it up in his barn until the mid-80s when he passed away. It was then moved to my friend's parent's garage until late last year when they moved into a retirement community and my friend sold me the lot (about 2000 brd ft total of walnut and cherry in 1/2 and 5/4 thicknesses) for $400. This is only a small fraction of the massive pile of lumber currently in my garage that will be used for other projects.

I also mounted the mantel and hearth for the bar fireplace. These are red cedar slabs harvested from western Oklahoma.

The last picture is what my living room theater is currently configured as. Let's just say my wife fully supports getting the theater done sooner rather than later.
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I have started doing the stone around the fireplace along with mounting the cabinets and purchased the materials to do the bar and counter tops. The back bar and side/sink top will be butcher block tops while the front bar top will be a 3/4 layer of Baltic birch with 1" live edge red cedar slabs glued down to it and then bordered with 3/4 cedar. The gaps will be filled with bottle caps I have collected over the years and then a layer of clear epoxy will be poured over the whole bar.

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Looking good! This will be the place to be when your done. I'm sure your cats will be in heaven roaming around there.

PS: I think you need to bring ALL the subs upstairs..... you can rip out the fireplace up there and put your 2 corner boxes in its place..... ... I'm sure your wife wouldn't mind

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Bar progress...

Did the wood walls behind and beside the bar. The walls consist of walnut, cherry, cedar, maple, oak and poplar (varying stain colors). The walnut and cherry used in the walls was 1/2" lumber that a friend's grandfather harvested from his farm in the Iowa River valley in 1947 and then put it up in his barn until the mid-80s when he passed away. It was then moved to my friend's parent's garage until late last year when they moved into a retirement community and my friend sold me the lot (about 2000 brd ft total of walnut and cherry in 1/2 and 5/4 thicknesses) for $400. This is only a small fraction of the massive pile of lumber currently in my garage that will be used for other projects.

I also mounted the mantel and hearth for the bar fireplace. These are red cedar slabs harvested from western Oklahoma.

The last picture is what my living room theater is currently configured as. Let's just say my wife fully supports getting the theater done sooner rather than later.
There is no way my wife would let me have those big subs I our living room and don't think i would either since are floor is hardwood throughout the living room and kitchen and it would feel like an earthquake all the time. The little 10" Klipsch powered sub is plenty and it isn't as noticeable as those. Are those 18 's? Look forward to your update.

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